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Think you’re taking the rules to the extremes Brew.  You can deliver the PC and hand it over to your friend outside his door.   Calm down, go about your normal day-to-day business, just don’t go into somebody else’s house.   
That’s how I see it anyway.   

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Am in total dismay at the human race. It's becoming more like Mad Max at the moment.        This me me society we have created cares only about themselves: I'm alright Jack, the rest of you can f

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Brew, you can still congregate in a public area provided that you observe 'rule of six' and keep 2m apart if possible.  So... you and matey could park up somewhere (say on the street outside one of your houses), open the boot/hatch of you car to reveal the PC, stand back and allow your friend to take it away.

 

What you can't do is congregate in a house or private garden.

 

Travelling in and out of area is guidance (so not breaking the law per se).

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I agree with Stavertongirl regarding students they way they are behaving all over the country. They cannot seriously think they are immune unless they think alcohol kills the virus, if they can't follow the rules where they are living send them home. See if they behave the same in the place where their families live.

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I have read the rules and yes i think we can meet outdoors if we bend the rules and ignore the fact we are advised not go into a tier 3 area. I can hardly turn a blind eye and still call those who congregate. Am I taking it to extremes? who judges? Is it bllks? maybe, but some of us try to do the right thing. Some of us have a sense of resposibility.

Do we not think there is an element of hypocrisy here? lambast the students but a quick sneak to see a friend is ok. Why not visit the grandchild while we're at it, we haven't seen him since March and well a hug don't count if we're quick ...

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Brew, I haven't seen my son since March when he was on leave neither he or i would consider sneaking anywhere. The same applies to my granddaughter's so I am annoyed when I see students happily roaming the streets with complete disregard for everyone else.

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So full UK lockdown by Wednesday, be nice if they included the so called keyworkers this time, they can watch a bit of Netflix while getting paid?

The backbone of the country, boots on, be safe everyone :victory:

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I am not lambasting all students, most of who are doing the right thing, it is just the idiots as shown on Sky news that want sorting out and those who had a party in the halls of residence. I would like to do the things I did before the first lockdown but have the sense to know it isn’t advisable to do them and I didnt go to university. Just don’t have any patience with them especially the ones who are whinging about self isolating for 14 days. For goodness sake it is just 2 weeks which in the scheme of things isn’t that long. I have not had any real social life since last March just get over it:angry:

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Perhaps, in many cases, they've had life too easy, SG. In recent years, the prevailing attitude seems to be you can do whatever you want, the world is your lobster, no restrictions, etc.  It isn't true. Tough, but you can't and it's not.  Life is not a bed of roses, so better get used to it.

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It's everywhere! We felt quite safe here in our village until a month ago when we had to self isolate. Two classes from the village school are all on self isolation, including our Great granddaughter next door. A couple of village elders are in a bad way too. Being midway between Stoke and W'ton our village was bound to get it sooner or later.

We can take all the precautions possible but we still have to rely on the integrity of others, shops and delivery services.

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2 hours ago, Beekay said:

Two weeks isolating, tut tut. We've been isolating now for 228 bloody days and still counting !!!

Beekay, have you been told by NHS or Govt to isolate all this time or have you made that decision yourselves?  Just asking because I think you’re the only person I know who has done this.   

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55 minutes ago, philmayfield said:

So all the patients clogging up the hospital beds are just pretending to be ill then?


You’ve taken the bait,

 

London hospital beds:
Out of 21,000 beds:
945 Covid patients 
150 suspected Covid
 Only 8% of London beds taken by Covid. 
 Deaths below the five-year average. 

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My wife had a government letter about isolating. I'm just trying to be cautious. Your right Phil, nobody has told me it's safe. Plenty have said it's Not safe !!

People can scoff all they want, I just want us both to be as safe as possible without being paranoid.

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So alan s you’re saying the truth about Covid is being concealed throughout the world and the ruin to their economies is what they all want. They once used Christianity and the fear of God to control the population. I can only go on what I read and hear through the media although I do know of some people locally who are in isolation. You would seem to have have a better source of information.

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Okay so who is running the worldwide conspiracy? China, the Russians, CIA, the luminarti  (not sure how to spell that), one of the terrorist groups, certainly not Boris and co unless they are doing a brilliant job of acting. Could be bankers I suppose they have already tried to bring some economies to their knees. 

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@philmayfield I don’t know what the end game ‘tho I have my suspicions.

Just remember there’s a 99.95% recovery rate, IF you catch it.

Average age of covid death is 83, bearing in mind average UK lifespan is just over 81 years.

More people will die through missed diagnoses, poverty & suicide.

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Beekay my wife and myself are being the same, not to the extent as yourselves but we havent left the house for 3 weeks now. Before that we went out but masks have been worn all the time, plenty of gel used and clothes steamed when we returned.  The wife has a lung condition and has emergency antibiotics in the house as our GP believes she has little chance of surviving a full blown lung infection. Usually she is ill with lung problems at least 3 times a year since March she hasnt had one, so the precautions work. These actions make us feel safer and thats what matters to us.

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I can agree with your last sentence. On your theory there’s a lot of hullabaloo over nothing too serious. I’m not taking any chances. I’m in the over 70 category so potentially more vulnerable. I’d rather die peacefully at home than gasping for my last breath in the QMC

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I see Morrison’s are giving more key workers a 10% discount plus including them in the “special hour”. Including teachers in it now, says everything I think. 
 

I too am over 70, have been a smoker most of my life, although I haven’t had a cig since Christmas, although there are contradicting reports on whether this makes it worse or stops you from getting it. I’d rather not take the chance of being in the 0.05%, although it looks like the percentage is actually over 1%.

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Looking like full lockdown on Wednesday, just finished work texted a few lads see what towns like, most pubs are doing soup and a roll for a £1 or pork pie & salad £1 Cornish pasty & salad £1 as part of the restrictions.

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