Coronavirus

[radfordred 5,451]

So this Pfizer vaccine, will you be joining the queue? (hopefully behind the NHS workers & care workers & then the 80+) 

 

Me, I'm prepared to wait a couple of years.

[Jill Sparrow 8,531]

And I'll be some distance behind you, RR. Provided those who had it earlier are still alive, kicking and unharmed. It's amazing how many nurses I've spoken to aren't aware of what happened when the polio vaccine was rushed out in the USA. It's more than half a century ago but it scares me. 

[MargieH 6,665]

I’ll have the vaccine as soon as it’s offered to me.   

[PeverilPeril 2,788]

For those that are undecided about having the jab, please ask yourself this - If I don't have the jab, am I putting others at risk and am I prepared to do nothing to minimise the prevalence of the disease?

[philmayfield 4,345]

I read that people were queuing outside Primark from 6am today. Is that where you get vaccinated? 

[oldphil 269]

3 hours ago, PeverilPeril said:

For those that are undecided about having the jab, please ask yourself this - If I don't have the jab, am I putting others at risk and am I prepared to do nothing to minimise the prevalence of the disease?

The flu vaccine is a new one every year, so the covid one presents no greater risk. So much experience and research goes into everything we take, it shouldn't worry us.

In the last 6 months I've had the jabs for flu and pneumonia, a tetanus booster and currently on a five year programme of six monthly injections in the stomach as part of the Orion 4 project to try out a new diabetes treatment. Feeling a bit like a pin cushion. If no one signed up for these, no new stuff, however cleverly produced, would get out to people. having these jabs is a mixture of blind faith and the feeling that, hell - I''ve got to die of something at some point!

[The Engineer 485]

The science and regulation is good enough.  I'll take it when offered.

[philmayfield 4,345]

It’s interesting to see that Tesco are paying back their business rates relief as supermarkets have been open throughout the lockdown and have done good business. The other supermarkets have now been forced to take the same line. I bet they’re not too happy about Tesco forcing the situation.

[Brew 4,209]

As the food supply chain was not disrupted to any great degree they should never have had it the first place.

[PeverilPeril 2,788]

My chickens go into lockdown next week  Must give the coup and run a good clean out this w/e.

[philmayfield 4,345]

Ah, the dreaded chicken flu. An old friend used to be in charge of Boots' research station at Thurgarton when they were big in vetinery and agri. chemicals. He was an entomologist and invented a compound that would completely rid chicken coups of red mite for years. It was too good to be commercial so it was sold in a much diluted version whereby the customers had to buy it on a yearly basis to control the mite.

 

[nonnaB 4,166]

Re the vaccine in UK. Apparently Europe is concerned that UK is rushing into  it too quickly and not waiting for confirmation that it is OK. They are saying that tests yet have to be confirmed.

 

[philmayfield 4,345]

No, it’s because we’ve left the long drawn out bureaucracy that goes with being a member of the EEC.

[LizzieM 8,712]

I should imagine every country has its own safety regulations and testing of medications and vaccines.  There are drugs used in the USA (for instance) that are not approved in the UK.   In Spain (and probably other countries) one can go into any pharmacy and buy antibiotics over the counter without a prescription.  Here in the UK one has to have a doctors appointment, sometimes over the phone these days, before a prescription is issued for any prescribed drugs.   I will have the vaccine ....... but there are several million people who will be offered one before it’s my turn.   If it’s going to allow me to go to restaurants and pubs and get on a plane then it’s a no-brainer.  

[Brew 4,209]

2 hours ago, LizzieM said:

In Spain (and probably other countries) one can go into any pharmacy and buy antibiotics over the counter without a prescription.  

 

It's true of most Mediterranean countries. Any pharmacy will sell you most things after asking a few questions... in the middle east they don't even ask questions...

[nonnaB 4,166]

34 minutes ago, Brew said:

 

It's true of most Mediterranean countries. Any pharmacy will sell you most things after asking a few questions... in the middle east they don't even ask questions...

 

Our pharmacist will sell over the counter if she knows you but having said that she will give it to you knowing it requires a prescription then send a note to the dr to issue her with the same prescription thus not having to wait at the Drs for an appointment.

On holiday with my mum in Liguria she needed her prescription which she forgot. She was refused. I also  asked to let her have some drops to help her sleep, they were also refused.

[radfordred 5,451]

I have seen no reports @LizzieM saying not having the vaccine is going to stop you going to a restaurant/pub, or getting on a plane?  

[philmayfield 4,345]

Apparently a certificate of vaccination is to  be issued so it will be up to the other party to ask for that proof.

You could possibly fabricate a false one of course.

My son used to make proof of age documents for his sister many years ago. I still have the laminating machine!

 

[Brew 4,209]

https://imgur.com/a/FywKe5A

[radfordred 5,451]

Vaccinations begin in the UK tomorrow, I have see no indication that any certificate or proof of vaccination will be issued? 

[philmayfield 4,345]

The World Health Organisation are looking at the possibility of e-vaccination certificates. You can be sure that there be some certificate of vaccination given. You will need some sort of proof to identify you and qualify you for your second vaccination. It will all become clear over the next few days. I’m sure airlines won’t let you on board without some evidence.

 

Edit: At present hospitals will be giving patients a card to remind them to come in for the second vaccine. Presumably after the second one there will be a more rigorous method of proof instigated.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[radfordred 5,451]

Have you not seen that guard that waves you thorough Tenerife's passport control?

[philmayfield 4,345]

I’ve flown light aircraft into continental airports and they didn’t seem to have a system for such arrivals. I’ve gone into the terminals through side doors and climbed over baggage check-ins to get to the main concourse. I’m sure systems are more rigid nowadays. It was trickier to get back to the aircraft though!

[radfordred 5,451]

When we flew back to the East Midlands from Turkey middle of September while the UK was in lockdown, after sitting in a tube, shoulder to shoulder with 280+ total strangers for four & half hours, I still have our filled in passenger locator forms, never looked at them or took them off us, just waved us through       

[DJ360 5,533]

Obviously I'm all in favour of both the vaccine and some sort of proof of having it.

 

That said, Mrs Col received a snotty letter from the NHS recently pointing out the error of her ways for NOT having the Flu Jab.

 

That would be fine except that she HAS had the jab. This doesn't inspire a lot of confidence in the Medical Records system.

 

  ( I'd been urging her to get the jab for years and she resisted for no sensible reason. The penny finally dropped a couple of years back after she was hospitalised with both Flu related pneumonia AND Gall stones at the same time.)