Brew 5,416 Posted 6 minutes ago Report Share Posted 6 minutes ago 9 hours ago, DJ360 said: I see the Rwanda Bill has passed. We'll see what it actually DOES., Whether we agree with it or not at least someone is finally doing something positive and not just bleating about some ill-defined, hodgepodge plan no one, not even the proposers understand. 10 hours ago, DJ360 said: the Tories absolutely cannot defend their appalling record, so they are desperately casting around for other people to blame.. Classic right wing tactics..) Actually that's classic political debate. Every political party regardless will always claim to have an answer to a problem, just as they will always have a reason why it didn't work, and a place, or someone to lay the blame upon. It's not a particularly right-wing gambit. 10 hours ago, DJ360 said: So.. it must be a fact that there are 70000 Civil Servants sitting about on their collective 'butts' doing nothing worthwhile. It's always been a popular axiom that something easy is "like a job on the council". An urban legend and may not be true but the principle has merit. Oz is right in many ways, the civil service has always been perceived as suffering from quango's, empire builders and those looking for an easy ride on the gravy train. The officious attitudes of jobsworths in the past still linger giving rise to the present-day stereotype. Some facts. Under Blair there was a rapidly rising civil service peaking at almost 500,000, (2009). The spending review of 2010 saw a fall of 100,000 over 5 years, far more than the present proposed cut. It has risen since 2016 to 510,000 and still increasing at a rate of 20,000 a year. More than time for some trimming methinks. 10 hours ago, DJ360 said: Think about it.. If we actually had that situation.. WTF have the Tories been doing for 14 years to allow that to develop? Especially since Public Services have been falling apart..coincidentally.. for the same period of time.. Probably the same as Blair/Brown did during their 13 years in office allowing for a huge rise in the civil service. Cutting costs and budgets is not unprecedented; the Labour government cut the NHS budget even before it was fully established! Now Labour suggests renationalising the railways, as if that's the most important. Evidently, it's deemed more critical than the failing utilities, more pressing than polluting our rivers with untreated sewage, and outrageous price hikes. More urgent than the dilemma of choosing between eating or heating... More important than taking our energy supplies away from foreign control... Seriously? Labour needs to get their priorities in the right order. Part 3 is just puffery... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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