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I don't believe you. People, especially NS readers, can read properly and hold more than one thought at a time, you insult their intelligence denying that. Not all of us make things diffcult for ourselves reading the forum on a phone when we should be doing the work we're paid for.

I doubt any would read it  when out for a drink with friends unless they are ignorant and ignore the company they're in, nor, I suspect, do most of us read out loud.

You know this thread is liable to have posts longer than average due to the complexities of the subject - so why read it? By your own admission you can't read the full post so can hardly have an informed opinion.

 

I asked LL a question and he kindly wrote an excellent reply, quite why you seem to gain some perverse passive aggressive pleasure from baiting and criticising people I don't know.

 

Can I respectfully suggest you stick to your interminable whinge about the length of quotes - they're easier to ignore.

 

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HSR: Col is given a 'free rein to spout his opinions' for exactly the reasons you are, only he does so with more civility.   Recently there have been a couple of attacks on the validity of t

True enough but none quite so 'in your face' or as blatant. To paraphrase Mone "I didn't lie to hide the the fact we're making £60 million and hiding it in a trust, it was to to protect my family

Why do you feel the need to influence others? What is your motivation for so doing? Is it because you think you know better than they? Is it because it feeds your ego if and when you succeed?  Is it b

^^^ what he said.  :laugh:

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Anybody else had a bet on the US outcome? Was offered a cash out on Skybet but after watching Sky news though the night, with their edited bias on interviews I"ll keep on sweating! 

 

On a much lighter note, do they have flavoured crisp"s eg C&O, Salt and vinegar, in the southern states of the US nowdays? 

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While I understand people don't like Trump, me included...

Amazed that UK people here favour .a reduced bargaining chip with the EU...

Somebody who calls Boris a Trump Clone, and Obama,

with his back of the queue...

We are stuck with a Tory government for a 4 years plus...

 

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2 hours ago, DJ360 said:

^^^ what he said.  :laugh:

We are all different makes the world go round,,,,think we all joined NS for a wide variety of reasons,,

I joined having been diagnosed with cancer to try and take my mind off it,,and have found great support from many of you,,i dont dwell  on it and prefer tohave a laugh reminiscing about sides of bacon and T leafs,,and the occasional story of past romances. Lol,, 

Some of you enjoy it and some probably think ""what a twit""  Anyway whatever reason you are a member you must get some enjoyment or you wouldnt be on here,

If we were all the same it would be boring,,RR is a great character sometimes interesting too,,(joking RR),,Brew a very different sort,,but non the less interesting with his political views,, sometimes read his and Cols long posts,,only sometimes though,,

DJ360, our Col,,he cabt help but write long stuff,,and over the years have seen him take a lot of flak,,,but what i admire about him is he just takes it in his stride,,(anyway hes a Bestwood boy,so must be ok,lol) 

Should get my new computer today,,might write a long thread later,,

Cheers folks Y"all keep posting,,

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On the subject of the number of posts and the number of people who read the posts, that is two very different things.

 

Most of the posts on Nottstalgia are made by a relatively small number of people, but there are a lot of visitors who read posts and threads without ever registering as members or contributing.

 

For instance….at this moment there are 8 members online - but 42 Guests. Those Guests are reading various posts and threads - some of which go back a long way - but will probably never make a contribution to the site.

 

A small number of people making posts doesn't also mean a small number of people reading what is posted.

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1 hour ago, HSR said:

Amazed that UK people here favour .a reduced bargaining chip with the EU...

Somebody who calls Boris a Trump Clone, and Obama,

with his back of the queue...

We are stuck with a Tory government for a 4 years plus...

 

The Obama quote is no longer relevant.  He was trying, quite rightly in my view, to signal the 'bleeding obvious', to the British electorate, by stating that the EU market is bigger than the UK market, and would therefore take precedence.  But.. as I say.. things have moved on.

 

You are right that we are stuck with a Tory Govt... and I'd add a very second rate Tory Govt., composed of the dregs left after Johnson purged anyone with integrity in his attempts to push a minority position through Parliament.

 

Not sure how you reckon Trump would be a better bet than Biden.  Trump may dribble out apparent support for Johnson, but surely you must know that NOTHING Trump says ever bears examination, or comes to fruition. He is utterly deranged and totally untrustworthy.

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10 hours ago, Brew said:

I was with you all the way Col until we got to this bit:

Hitler did the same and our own Tory Party has done the same since Thatcher.., though I will admit with marginally less bile.. and we have different scapegoats.... But the effect is the same..

 

I think Blair can claim the right to the title most outrageous scapegoat in recent times.

 

 

I suspect we are at cross-purposes re: the sentence in bold Jim. I don't expect you to agree with all of my analysis of the Tories, but in relation to the scapegoating by Trump, I can quote Tory equivalents:

Gove and others including the insidious Cummings, directly 'dissing' expert opinion in favour of their own petty prejudices. May's 'Hostile Environment' and the general Tory encouragement/propagation of lies about immigration.

Cameron's deliberate invention of 'Benefit Scroungers', used to set society against itself in a classic 'divide and rule' move. I'm sure there is much more but it's late morning and I think far better late at night. :)

Johnson/Cummings attempts to 'politicise' the Civil Service and even the Law.

 

I completely agree that Bliars alliance with Bush to target Saddam Hussein and Iraq in response to 9/11, was completely misplaced. It was pure propaganda for Bush's 'home audience'.  I've never quite grasped WTF it was supposed to be for the UK.

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52 minutes ago, Cliff Ton said:

Most of the posts on Nottstalgia are made by a relatively small number of people, but there are a lot of visitors who read posts and threads without ever registering as members or contributing.

 

 

Spot on Kev,

I don't think it's very different on most 'special interest' sites.  For e.g., I've often looked for info on things such as car maintenance, or DIY, on assorted 'enthusiast', or 'expert' sites.  I have just found..or maybe not found.. what I wanted.. but rarely registered.

 

I see no need for some members to try to unofficially 'censor' the site. The rules are all in the AUP.

I've said many times before. If people aren't interested, or don't have the requisite attention span.. they are at liberty not to read a post, thread, or whole forum.

 

Quoting takes up hardly any bandwidth, and in any case, most people have the sense to know not to quote whole posts, or engage in lengthy copy/paste.  That's what links are for.

 

There are whole sections of NS which are of little/no interest to me.  I don't moan about them.  I just ignore them.

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1 hour ago, benjamin1945 said:

DJ360, our Col,,he cabt help but write long stuff,,and over the years have seen him take a lot of flak,,,but what i admire about him is he just takes it in his stride,,(anyway hes a Bestwood boy,so must be ok,lol) 

 

I've been insulted by experts Paul...  There's nothing here to compare... :):)

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I must admit I don’t post that regularly, especially since March, as most days are much of a muchness as my Nana used to say. But I do come on regularly to see what is happening and catch up on the threads that interest me, even the epistles on the political thread. It would be very boring if we all agreed on everything And I do enjoy the (good humoured) debate between you all. 
 

(I had a spectrum 2, loved it although had no idea what I was doing, then went onto a Commodore I think it was.)

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2 hours ago, DJ360 said:

 

The Obama quote is no longer relevant.  He was trying, quite rightly in my view, to signal the 'bleeding obvious

 

How wonderfully appropriate..

Why has he crawled from under his stone, strangely in the last week?

 

 

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1 hour ago, HSR said:

 

How wonderfully appropriate..

Why has he crawled from under his stone, strangely in the last week?

 

 

 

?????

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I've just been sent a a clip of Trumps spiritual advisor praying for victory. Apparently angels from Africa and South America are on their way..

 

https://news.yahoo.com/trump-spiritual-adviser-paula-white-144621231.html

 

Scroll down to the video... words fail me...

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Trump is looking increasingly pathetic.  I've seen more Statesmanlike performances from George Formby.

 

If he had an ounce of integrity he would be telling his supporters to stop acting like some sort of private Militia and show some dignity in defeat.

 

The concern now is how much damage he can do before he is dragged kicking and screaming from the White House.

 

 

 

 

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Does he really believe there is any point starting this legal action to stop the count?

I wonder if he's counting on his new appointee (Coney), to find in his favour? According to the Guardian has said so but I can't find any other reference...

We all call him stupid but he must have a degree of low cunning to recognise the possibility of a disputed result and has tried to load the dice in his favour. He's insufferable now, imagine if the actually pulls it off!

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