Rob.L 1,088 Posted April 10 Report Share Posted April 10 17 hours ago, Brew said: Now under the guise of reducing waiting times Labour proposes to spend money in the private sector, a quick fix solution that has every likelihood of becoming an expensive permanent policy. But that has been happening since 2000, when Labour were previously in power. If there was an excessive wait for treatment, the NHS were able to use the private sector. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brew 5,412 Posted April 10 Report Share Posted April 10 14 minutes ago, Rob.L said: If there was an excessive wait for treatment, the NHS were able to use the private sector. They still do but it is now no longer an ad hoc option it's to become a regular part of the service and the cost will come from the budget to the detriment of the NHS. It is no more and no less than creeping privatisation and patients will be the ones who suffer in the long run. Senior consultants (who stand to gain most), have said as much. This article explains it better: https://www.theguardian.com/society/2024/mar/08/private-hospitals-cannibalising-nhs-in-england-by-doing-10-of-elective-operations Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DJ360 6,728 Posted April 12 Report Share Posted April 12 I'm confused. I was under the impression that the Police had already decided to investigate Angela Raynor's tax affairs a couple of weeks ago. Yet it's headline news on the BBC today, Of course, the sight of well known fraudster Grant Schapps getting all indignant about supposed 'hyoocrisy' on the part of Raynor is irony of epic proportions. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stuart.C 491 Posted April 12 Report Share Posted April 12 DJ, Todays headline appears to be that Angela Raynor is now also being investigated re whether she correctly gave her main residence address for the electoral register. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brew 5,412 Posted April 12 Report Share Posted April 12 3 hours ago, DJ360 said: 'm confused. I was under the impression that the Police had already decided to investigate Angela Raynor's tax affairs a couple of weeks ago. Yet it's headline news on the BBC today, Apparently witnesses have come forward to offer fresh evidence, and there is a new complaint from a different quarter. Whilst I would like to see her slapped down, I think it's a sad comment on the state of the political scene today that they are using the police as agents to attack teach other. Starmer of course is back on the fence of plausible deniability. "I've not seen the legal advice letter, but my team has". Yeah right... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
letsavagoo 963 Posted April 12 Report Share Posted April 12 8 hours ago, DJ360 said: well known fraudster Grant Schapps Is this in relation to his software company ‘How To Corp’ or something else. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rob.L 1,088 Posted April 13 Report Share Posted April 13 Was that Shapps? Thought it was either Michael Green, Corinne Stockheath or Sebastian Fox. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DJ360 6,728 Posted April 15 Report Share Posted April 15 On 4/12/2024 at 5:38 PM, Brew said: Whilst I would like to see her slapped down, Not the sort of language I normally associate with you Jim. Do you mean in general, or just in relation to any ALLEGED wrongdoing? You know that she is probably more feared by the Tories than any other Labour politician, including Starmer hence the Tory feeding frenzy. I mean, is it normal for a Senior Tory to write a book entitled 'The Unofficial Biography of Angela Raynor'? Seems quite creepy to me. As I understand it, there were two properties involved and that she was at some point separated from her husband/ partner. This may be the root of issues/ confusion. I don't know any more., except that Tory James Daly on Politics Live literally just now..was unable to outline ANY specific alleged wrongdoing, even though he is the one who brought them to the attention of Police. Frankly, he looked decidedly sheepish and uncomfortable. He should anyway, as his majority in Bury North is just 0.2%, so he's almost certainly toast at the next election. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brew 5,412 Posted April 15 Report Share Posted April 15 1 hour ago, DJ360 said: Not the sort of language I normally associate with you Jim. I was using language anyone (Raynor), who calls people 'homophobic, racist, misogynistic scum'. would understand. There's more but too rude for this forum. I don't know any more details than you and I'm sure you noted I did not accuse her of any wrongdoing. I simply replied to your post that new evidence and a new complaint based on it had been made. I will accuse her of hypocrisy. I also said politicians are using the police as agents to attack each other. The investigation as I understand it regards her statement in 2015 about her main residence, and is therefore out of time for prosecution making the police investigation pointless. The second allegation is about tax and if she owes for capital gains on the sale of a house. This is gutter politicking, and the Tories are descending to her level. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DJ360 6,728 Posted April 16 Report Share Posted April 16 Leaving Rayner aside for a moment.. ( I've been spelling it incorrectly..Raynor was my late Father in Law's stage name..) Truss's performance on the telly yesterday ... She comes across as seriously deranged and in deep denial. And she wants Trump back. And she supports Farage. And she opposes anti smoking measures Obviously not remotely influenced by the Tuffron Street mob.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cliff Ton 10,464 Posted April 16 Author Report Share Posted April 16 Every time Truss speaks, you think she can't get any madder..........but she always does. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brew 5,412 Posted April 16 Report Share Posted April 16 8 hours ago, DJ360 said: She comes across as seriously deranged and in deep denial. You've missed the big picture. With Trump as president and Farage as PM... what could possibly go wrong... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DJ360 6,728 Posted April 16 Report Share Posted April 16 Fair point... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brew 5,412 Posted Thursday at 02:48 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 02:48 PM So now it's Starmers turn to demand a police investigation - tit for tat anyone? I've no idea what Menzies has been up to, but although it all seems rather unsavoury, was it criminal? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DJ360 6,728 Posted Thursday at 03:45 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 03:45 PM As with Rayner.. we'll have to wait and see. However, it seems his party has known of 'allegations' for months and only now taken action. I think that's the fourth Tory MP to lose the whip recently. To quote Lady Bracknell: 'For one MP to lose the whip may be deemed unfortunate, but for FOUR to lose the whip smacks of carelessness' Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brew 5,412 Posted Thursday at 05:47 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 05:47 PM 1 hour ago, DJ360 said: However, it seems his party has known of 'allegations' for months and only now taken action. That's my point Col. Someone has been digging in the mire, politics and politicians are getting desperate, nasty and personal. The Tories can't convince us their policies are working, thus we have the attack on Rayner in the hope it damages Labour by association. Despite the weasel words Labour really have not presented a single itemised or realistic costed argument. I've said it so any times, they are totally bereft of any clear and communicable ideas. Now Menzies has given them a bone to chew. And so both parties are now resorting to scrabbling in the dirt of the opposition's personal dirty laundry. It's all a smoke screen to hide to appalling state of UK politics It's disgusting and I despair... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DJ360 6,728 Posted Friday at 04:31 PM Report Share Posted Friday at 04:31 PM https://www.theguardian.com/books/2024/apr/19/five-year-old-on-acid-liz-truss-ten-years-to-save-the-west-digested-by-john-crace Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cliff Ton 10,464 Posted Friday at 05:18 PM Author Report Share Posted Friday at 05:18 PM I'm struggling to take the Menzies story seriously. If someone invented the incident in a novel they'd be told it was ridiculously unbelievable. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-68858604 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brew 5,412 Posted Friday at 07:37 PM Report Share Posted Friday at 07:37 PM I have my own ideas of events but it's probably libellous to publish without proof. It seems his particular peccadillo led him to a dating site and some 'bad people'. What happened in the flat, what they did and why he was locked in is something to ponder - except I'm really not that interested. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DJ360 6,728 Posted Saturday at 02:05 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 02:05 PM I'm presently just standing back and looking on in bewilderment at politics everywhere. I'm also far more concerned with decoding the fitting instructions for a new bathroom unit, which seems to be at least as difficult as understanding Linear B script or Truss's inane ramblings.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brew 5,412 Posted Saturday at 02:54 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 02:54 PM When something doesn't fit Col it means you're using the wrong size hammer Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DJ360 6,728 Posted Saturday at 03:53 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 03:53 PM I'm not at the stage of hammering screwis in yet.. and I have a selection of hammers ranging from toffee hammer to 'FBH'.. The skill of course in in hammering the screw in just far enought to allow for the final, crucial turn with a screwdriver.. My problem.. now solved, was how to place the wall hanging brackets at a suitable height to both get the washbasin at correct height AND allow just enough space below a window sill and above the washbasin to accommodate a toughened glass self adhesive splashback of fixed size. I shall prevail... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brew 5,412 Posted Sunday at 08:32 PM Report Share Posted Sunday at 08:32 PM Somewhere up there ^^^ I criticised NCC for making decisions based on very few people's opinions. Today in a debate in the mother of all parliaments discussing topics supposedly of national importance, only 10 Tory and 6 Labour MPs could be arsed to turn up. I'd stop their pay. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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