meeowed 314 Posted November 19, 2019 Report Share Posted November 19, 2019 The point is no one has the slightest clue of the figures entering our country illegal or otherwise oh and by the way the hotel report was published in three of our national newspapers Perhaps you could publish the deportation figures it should not take more than one hand Socialism seems fine until their leaders gain a considerable fortune then they seem rather reluctant to share with their comrades then Teflon tony could not afford a london flat when sam foxs boyfriend conned him And yet a session in number ten has resulted in a series of multi million pound properties and finances that no one can fathom the job must pay pretty well Then we have mandelson still hand in glove with his russian billionaire The hypocrisy of the like of Prescot and numerous union leaders shuffling off to the house of lords I have nothing but contempt for all politicians they are ruled by sheer greed I have sat in the speakers chair on a visit there and you are not left with a sense of history but just one of overwhelming corruption We have never been in such dire straits for polictical representation meeowed 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DJ360 6,353 Posted November 19, 2019 Report Share Posted November 19, 2019 Really not difficult to find. https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/immigration-statistics-april-to-june-2017/how-many-people-are-detained-or-returned I don't think it would profit either of us to get into a debate about whether Blair/ Mandleson, or Johnson/Farage are more firmly in bed with Russians .... but it's Johnson who is sitting on a report into current/recent Russian involvement in funding Tory/Brexit activities to influence the outcome of the coming election and Brexit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
meeowed 314 Posted November 19, 2019 Report Share Posted November 19, 2019 This is why I never discuss religion with my asian neighbour who i hasten to add i get on with very well He can no more understand why i dont believe in islam any more than I can understand why he does it would be a pointless excercise so we agree to disagree I just fear for our childrens future in this world but they must make the best of it as we had to meeowed 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jill Sparrow 9,574 Posted November 19, 2019 Report Share Posted November 19, 2019 Does it matter? You're both here, you both have lives to live and you will both die. Perhaps the important issue is what you do with those lives and why. We are not what we profess to believe and are not necessarily what we do but, perhaps, we are a reflection of the intentions behind our actions. In many cases, it's a reflection with which we will find it disturbing to be confronted? Do you like what you see in the mirror? 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MargieH 7,394 Posted November 19, 2019 Report Share Posted November 19, 2019 Very insightful post, Jill. There are times I don't wholly approve of my 'reflection' but the important thing is to recognise and own these times and perhaps take steps to change our attitudes and opinions if they make us feel uncomfortable and aren't what we feel they perhaps could be. I believe It's important not to just blindly accept our present opinions saying: "That's just who I am. I've always thought that way (same as my mum/dad before me)..... and I'm too old and set in my ways to change now". One of the good things about this particular forum is that it brings us into contact with people we wouldn't normally come across in our everyday lives - people with very different views from our own. I love reading about everyone's childhood memories and present day experiences, and it has made me much more aware of possible reasons why we all think so differently on many subjects - and not just our party political stance. None of us is too old to really listen to - and consider with an open mind - other people's opinions. On a lighter note, the main thing I see I see in my mirror is an old lady (don't know where she came from) who needs a new birthday suit for Christmas 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cliff Ton 9,955 Posted November 19, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2019 What I (sometimes) find interesting about this thread is reading opinions which I don’t share - or hadn’t even thought of - and wondering if I could be converted. Asa a result of what I’ve read here, I’ve not - so far - been persuaded to change my opinion on any subject. I’ve sometimes lost the will to live before I reached the end of a post; or couldn’t keep a straight face any longer; or just thought “there’s no way I sympathise with this”. I’ll stick with what I know and think. 5 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MargieH 7,394 Posted November 19, 2019 Report Share Posted November 19, 2019 At least you've read the posts CT ! Of course, sometimes it's right for a person to leave by the same door they entered.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brew 5,007 Posted November 20, 2019 Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 15 hours ago, DJ360 said: He clearly is neither a terrorist sympathiser, nor an anti semite. He is also not a serial liar and fornicator like Johnson In politics Col nothing is clear! I have no idea if the thrice married Corbyn is or was a fornicator. (you've used the word before but it simply means people having sex) The evidence of his past associations with known terrorists is well documented and seems to me that on the balance of probability he is sympathetic to their causes. I'll combine two here because it seems a bit 'off' to me. I said before we can only know what is in the public domain. However it cannot be denied that people of high office within the party have resigned over the issue of anti-Semitism. He has denied it (he can hardly admit it), but again on the balance of probability... He once said in an interview peers should not be appointed to the Lords and the upper house to be an elected body. Later he nominated Shami Chakrabati to receive a peerage. A campaigner who just happened to be writing a report; on anti-Semitism in the Labour party. Maybe I'm just being cynical. Does he tell lies? The train journey where Corbyn claimed the carriage he was in was “ram-packed.” and he had to sit on the floor. As luck would have it and by sheer coincidence there happened to be a camera crew handy to film his predicament and make a political video about the issues with the privatised railways. Except the train CCTV filmed him walking past row upon row of empty seats before sitting on the floor. He sat in a seat for the remainder of the journey after making the film. The waffling and excuses that followed were laughable. He claimed Labour membership had risen to 540,000, the most it's ever been. Except it was once over a million. In an interview with the left wing red pepper magazine he boasted he had 'never had any higher education’. North London Polytech doesn't count then? And finally I've said before about his claim of supporting the Good Friday agreement, he actually made a speech in Parliament against it. Corbyn is career politician half-truths; spin and obfuscation are his stock in trade. Does he tell lies? - You tell me. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
meeowed 314 Posted November 20, 2019 Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 I wonder if its worth signing up with 72 virgins on offer a fella has got to keep all his options open meeowed 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jill Sparrow 9,574 Posted November 20, 2019 Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 Where are they going to find 72 virgins in this day and age? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
radfordred 6,278 Posted November 20, 2019 Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 These Asian teenage grooming gangs seem to have no trouble finding them? The Bastards. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DJ360 6,353 Posted November 20, 2019 Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 9 hours ago, Brew said: In politics Col nothing is clear! That's true Brew. There are a number of posts from your good self and others which I'd like to respond to with my 'Two Penn'orth' later. However, at present I am in the latter stages of preparing myself for the delights of a 'Virtual Colonoscopy' ..scheduled for 2:30 today. I can reveal that this means I've eaten nothing for almost 24 hours and it will be more like 27 hours before I do... so I'm not exactly on top form. Those who have also shared the delights of a Colonoscopy will not need me to remind them of the other aspects of 'preparation'. Those who haven't really don't need to know.. Either way.. any accusation from certain quarters that I am 'full of s**t'.. is definitely untrue... if only temporarily I shall return... 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gem 1,419 Posted November 20, 2019 Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 Jill your post regarding finding 27 virgins made me laugh but I then read the comment made by RR and that was not funny and the sad part it is so true. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gem 1,419 Posted November 20, 2019 Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 Quote On a good morning I recognise the lady looking back at me....on a bad morning I wonder why and how my mother got inside my mirror. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
meeowed 314 Posted November 20, 2019 Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 I know the feeling I am sure they speed the clocks up after my teenage years I suddenly woke up one morning as an old man You dont get very long at this life game I tell all youngsters what ever you wish to do get on with it Your life goes so quick meeowed 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
meeowed 314 Posted November 20, 2019 Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 At least DJ your doing what some said you should Hope all goes well look forward to more clashes best of luck meeowed 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brew 5,007 Posted November 20, 2019 Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 2 hours ago, meeowed said: I wonder if its worth signing up with 72 virgins on offer a fella has got to keep all his options open meeowed Be very careful what you wish for meowed, it doesn't specify if they are male or female … 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brew 5,007 Posted November 20, 2019 Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 1 hour ago, DJ360 said: I shall return... Hope all goes well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
meeowed 314 Posted November 20, 2019 Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 Replying to jill sparrow We must assume the rumours are not true then the search goes on its a difficult task meeowed I will probably find they have removed my appendage anyway meeowed 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brew 5,007 Posted November 20, 2019 Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 19 hours ago, Cliff Ton said: I’ll stick with what I know and think. But it's done just that... made you think and not simply accept the garbage we are bombarded with. It may not change your views but looking at things from a different perspective can give you a new insight and may even reinforce your opinion. 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
carni 10,046 Posted November 20, 2019 Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 2 hours ago, DJ360 said: Those who have also shared the delights of a Colonoscopy will not need me to remind them of the other aspects of 'preparation'. Those who haven't really don't need to know.. Three since last August for me DJ.? All the best for this afternoon, Will be awaiting your report later. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cliff Ton 9,955 Posted November 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 49 minutes ago, Brew said: made you think and not simply accept the garbage we are bombarded with. It may not change your views but looking at things from a different perspective can give you a new insight and may even reinforce your opinion. I agree. My problem is that I'm very uncommitted politically. I can see good and bad in both sides of most arguments. I totally can't understand people who say "I always vote Labour, or I always vote Conservative". That to me is the worst kind of non-thinking. 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gem 1,419 Posted November 20, 2019 Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 2 hours ago, Gem said: Jill your post regarding finding 27 virgins made me laugh but I then read the comment made by RR and that was not funny and the sad part it is so true. Oooops should read 72 finding 27 would be hard enough, good luck with that one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
meeowed 314 Posted November 20, 2019 Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 good point brew I was never any good at snap even at school and the lad i played had a stutter meeowed 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brew 5,007 Posted November 20, 2019 Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 Your number may well be correct Gem. They are called Houris and there is no specific number mentioned, but their physical description is quite graphic depending which version you read. The figure 72 came along much later (around the 1500's) but it doesn't say they are all for one man. That's either a misconception or wishful thinking Incidentally the same passages claim that the inhabitants of hell are mostly women! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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