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`The school refused to comment but Notts County Council said pupils would not have been signed up to the course without parental permission.'

Interesting! We can give children contraceptive advice and allow them to seek to kill unborn children,without parental permission, but we must seek permission to send them on a sliiming course! Have you any idea how these children will be mercilesly bullied by their fellows?

Many children are grossly overweight around puberty,but with the `growth spurt' many return to `normal' Let the teachers teach and leave other things to people who know what they are about.

Note I sent to the `Post about `Fat Kids" This is surely bullying.! :angry:

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Slight improvement Dave thanks. not going to be quick. Going to see the nurse tomorrow, Mrs C has managed to borrow a wheelchair to get me about, then the fun should really start. ! Sue has never driv

#28 IF i was young again and out on the pull,and saw most of the girls in town at night,i would run amile

A Big Mac and Fries can be the nearest thing to heaven on a long car journey when you’re really hungry -so yes, about once a year!

And on the other hand we have a sick society of modern day kids suffering from Anorexia and Bulimia.

In my days as a kid 50's to 60's, Food was hard to come by as we were very poor.

I have no sympathy with these modern day 'victims' of their own self indulgence!

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I'd suggest that 90%+ of obese children owe their condition to their thicko parents......

The same parents who, in a few years time, will be indifferent to their fat offspring staying out until all hours and becoming social liabilities, and then onward to become 'dole' experts.

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V. Meldrew

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Just trawling through old posts for controvertial stuff and I found this and I felt I had to reply .

I have been fat all my life and it definately cannot be blamed on my parents as (like Mick said )I was brought up in the 60s and we had nowt .A very proud man ,my father , would not alow my mother to work, we were self sufficient in vegetables ,he grew everthing , but we always had our food in front of us and weren't allowed to leave anything (even if you hated it ) I was glad to leave home in the end cos I couldn't stand Broad Beans LOL.

We went on walking holidays ,often covering 15 miles in a day,walking from youth hostel to youth hostel via the nearest mountain (you name it I climbed it)

So as you can see healthy food, health lifestyle ,still fat boy.Some people have a different metabelism to others Dont get me wrong I am not excusing the current "throw away society" that we have now, but please don't tar every body with the same brush (None of my parents were fat nor my brother or sister or any relatives apart from 1 distant cousin ,nor my kids)

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Beefsteak - I know exactly were you're coming from - I've got 2 kids - one is as skinny as a pencil the other one I will call 'well rounded'. They both have the same diet. No. in fact the skinny one eats more as I don't panic as much what she's eating.

I feel very conscious that people think I'm feeding them chips, crisps and coke all the time.

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Thanks for that Julie (And welcome to this (occasionally) blinkered site) As I said before we were never raised differently , yet ,not even in middle age, neither my brother or sister can be considered 'overweight'. My sister put a bit of 'Blob' on through various problems a few years back , but soon lost it. Even at my 'fighting weight' I was always "Fatty" this and "Fatty" that. It doesn't install one with confidence for future life I can tell you.

Now I am on a weight loss programme, as I am grossly obese, there are a few reasons for this, one of them (I will admit) is down to being idle for the last couple of years,(Through illness and injury) and I have banged on 5 stone, no one can explain this to me, I eat less and drink less than I ever did in my 20s and 30s, yet I am still looked at , by the local kids, as a laughing stock. (Their parents know different ,or at least don't say anything to my face, as most of them are obese too) even though I still try to get at least (if not more) the same amount of exercise as I did in my 20's.

Now on the positive side , I have lost a couple of stone since last October , but, even I can't kid myself into thinking I will ever be thin, never have been, never will be, don't know what it feels like.!!!!!

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Just been to see the practice nurse to get my ears done and she weighed me whilst I was there ,and I have lost another 2 pounds in 11 days

Slowly but surely as they say

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Ian, even during the 50's and 60's as a kid into teenage years, we had the odd kid who was overweight. Certainly wasn't through overfeeding as food was always the healthy types. We all had plenty of exercise as TV didn't really show up until the mid 50's and wasn't on very much as all you'd see was a test card most of the day. We all spent many hours playing, running etc. I was always skinny, even during my teen apprentice years, walking several miles underground and crawling through low coal faces kept my weight right down.

I had a good appetite too! 8 large bread rolls for snap, large dinner at home, and when I was out drinking, I'd be eating pubs snacks of ham and cheese or cheese and onion bread rolls.

I walked nearly everywhere, something kids of today don't know about, seems they have to have a lift everywhere they go! And exercise for most kids today is their Playstation2's There's no wonder we have a very obese generation of kids now!

Even in my late twenties, I'd cover as much as ten miles walking underground repairing breakdowns, plus I'd take the kids for a walk along the cliff tops on my day off work.

I have in later years put some pounds on as I'm not as active as I once was, but I eat like a sparrow these days.

I do blame obesity on the scale it's on these days to the fast food outlets and computer games though!

If I had kids, I wouldn't allow a TV in the house, nor computer games and most certainly wouldn't frequent fast food places period, not that I do anyway.

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I am very lucky in that neither of my kids have inherited the 'fat gene' from me, they are both very active, always running everywhere (Hence the reason they are always covered in bruises , they can run but don't know how to stop)

On the subject of the pit , my best mate Alan , worked down Gedling as an electrician, and he was skinny as a rake , (more fat on a greasy chip) His day was , cup of tea 4 sugars, 4 slices of bacon sandwichs' ,pack out was a whole loaf in sandwiches and a large flask of coffee with 12 sugars, back home for dinner (Very large portion) off to the pub ,6/7 pints of brown and bitter ,off to the chippy at closing time and he would always have chicken and mushroom pie, chips ,curry sauce and mushy peas , back home and he always put a great knob of butter on his chips. It must be something in the air down there!!!

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I have to take some blame here.

Being the one who, in the 80s & 90's tempted BeefSteak into many premises specialising

the purveyance of spicy food from the east!

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I was as a child a little plump, even though I was always out playing, I was never in.

I put my plumpness down to the rubbish I was eating/drinking at the time, things like sugar loaded soft drinks from the Corona man who came every week and to the white chocolate drops I had a passion for form me local paper shop.

Over my sixty years my weight as fluctuated, it just depends on what I’m doing at the time

Before I started to weight training at 35 years old I was a delicate ten stone, when I threw the towel in at 53 my weight had gone up to fifteen stone ripped.

Over the many years since I stopped my weight training it has gradually gone down, now I’m around eleven stone but prone to put a few pounds on when I walk down the calorie alley in Asda, why…. because I like my Snicker bars….and the odd bag of pork scratching while having the odd pint of HP.

Bip.

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Funny but I just dont recall a single overweight/ Fat ( People of Size?) kid at school in first the Meadows and then in Carlton from 1957-1964 during my primary school years. The first overweight kid I ever saw was in my class at Carlton Le Willows Grammar and boy did he get some abuse. Elephant was one name thrown at him but he was actually very pleasant with a great sense of humour.

I am sure that for a very small minority there may be some physical eg hormonal reason for weight gain. For 99% its simply because they eat too much of the wrong kind of food. It aint rocket science, cut down the carbs and avoid fatty and salty foods and esp white bread, pastries, cakes, biscuits and pies! I reviewed my own diet recently and decided I should try to lose some weight although at 12 stone and just under 6 foot I was not exactly obese. I am now down to 11 stone and it was not a problem at all because it was about the type of food I was eating. We now live in a world surrounded by food and food advertising and its all to easy to keep on snacking with so much food in our houses. It wasnt like this in the 1950's / 1960s and apparently us "boomers" apparently had a much better diet than kids today. So maybe the "good old days" really were good, certainly for our health?

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My stepson is 14 and eats everything that is supposed to be appalling and bad for him, he hates vegetables for a start. Both his mother and Grandfather obviously have a fat gene, they really struggle with diets and their weight.

Him, he's over 6ft tall and built like a long distance runner, in fact we were discussing cross country running this morning, I reckon he could run down a deer, he has an incredible physique.

Me, I'll eat anything as long as it isn't an Indian. I love my fry ups, always have done, my missus can't believe how what I eat has never affected me. I have a passion for crisps and chocolate for a start, but 37 years on I can still wear the same clothes size I wore when I was 21, it's never changed. Yes I've had medical checks, my heart, cholestoral levels, blood pressure, etc, etc are perfectly normal, I find this inexplicable, I've drank and smoked probably in excess for years, I must have the Keith Richards gene.

I recall a few years ago taking part in a charity marathon where everyone had to run a relay 2 mile leg around an old airfield, our team were up against the Grenadier Guards, I had a fag and ran them into the ground, I was in my late 40's then and they were fit youngsters, but it's all down to technique and I used to love running. I'm not condoning what I did, it was a wind up on my behalf, it horrified the rest of the team, but phsycologically it worked, though please don't try this at home.

My mother is 92 going on 50, she is amazing, apart from a bit of arthritis, she's well fit and mentally top of the tree, her sense of humour is unbelievable, my father was the same up until his death a few years ago, but that was the result of a tragic accident.

Some have it, some don't, it's very strange how the human metabolism works for individual people, I just happen to be one of the lucky ones, I reckon.

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I think you'll find the "gene" is called msg in processed foods and fast foods, and corn syrup, two very unhealthy forms of food additives I steer very well clear of.

As most soft drinks are loaded with corn syrup nowadays, I refuse to touch them, better with clean wholesome water.

Anything with artificial sweetners in I stay way clear of too, they have been proven to cause tumours of the liver etc..

I don't use much sugar, none in tea or coffee, just a small amount on cerials.

MSG has been proven to make one feel "empty" when added to food, no wonder kids overeat at fast food outlets!!

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I am sure that for a very small minority there may be some physical eg hormonal reason for weight gain. For 99% its simply because they eat too much of the wrong kind of food.

Well I for one think you're figures are a bit wrong , as I stated in my earlier posts , I have two siblings both thin and all of us were raised on a healthy diet and plenty of exersize. I always remember feeling hungry all the time though.

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There were 450 in my school,none were fat,

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I dont remember none of these eating disorders neither.

  • anorexia nervosa – when someone tries to keep their weight as low as possible, for example by starving themselves or exercising excessively
  • bulimia – when someone tries to control their weight by binge eating and then deliberately being sick or using laxatives (medication to help empty their bowels)
  • binge eating – when someone feels compelled to overeat
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I had anorexia as a symptom of Lyme, just wasn't hungry and food made me feel sick thinking of it, but that's the nature of the disease.

The drug companies seem to be inventing diseases these days to push their expensive poisons upon us, remember acid indigestion??? Now called "acid reflux disease" How can eating greasy foods be a disease?? LOL.

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