David sheridan 159 Posted December 12, 2022 Report Share Posted December 12, 2022 2 hours ago, Oztalgian said: I worked on components for the RB211 engines that powered the Tristar or Lockheed 1011 Where was that Oz? My brother in law worked at Rolls royce in Hucknall . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mary1947 2,079 Posted December 12, 2022 Report Share Posted December 12, 2022 If my memory serve's me well the first cheap holidays to Spain were by "Freddie Laker" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MRS B 510 Posted December 12, 2022 Report Share Posted December 12, 2022 I think that Sir Freddie can be applauded for opening up the skies cheaply across the Atlantic. What a great guy. British European Airways (BEA) I believe were the first to fly to the Costas in the late 1950’s and then Horizon Holidays? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
philmayfield 6,115 Posted December 12, 2022 Report Share Posted December 12, 2022 My airline pilot friends used to refer to their holiday passengers, rather derogatorily, as ‘the bucket and spade brigade’ but they did keep them in a job. They couldn’t always fly business class passengers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LizzieM 9,507 Posted December 12, 2022 Report Share Posted December 12, 2022 8 minutes ago, philmayfield said: My airline pilot friends used to refer to their holiday passengers, rather derogatorily, as They couldn’t always fly business class passengers. I think that is a rather derogatory comment to make and I must say I know/knew lots of commercial pilots flying short and long haul and have never heard one make such a comment. What does @MRS Bthink? Now the flight crew are cocooned within the flight deck but the cabin crew have to deal with the odd obnoxious passenger. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MRS B 510 Posted December 12, 2022 Report Share Posted December 12, 2022 2 hours ago, LizzieM said: I think that is a rather derogatory comment to make and I must say I know/knew lots of commercial pilots flying short and long haul and have never heard one make such a comment. What does @MRS Bthink? Now the flight crew are cocooned within the flight deck but the cabin crew have to deal with the odd obnoxious passenger. LizzieM they were always called the bucket and spade brigade in airline speak in the early days, especially with those Spanish donkeys they used to bring back. Maybe not nowadays but I think airlines are a lot more professional now. Flight crew are not necessarily cocooned although they are locked in, the comms between flight deck and cabin crew (CRM) is so much more improved, particularly after Kegworth. Cabin crew legally are only there for safety, the service is a bonus. Working for an airline for 30+ years makes me really cross with obnoxious passengers, there’s just no need for it. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Oztalgian 3,269 Posted December 12, 2022 Report Share Posted December 12, 2022 7 hours ago, David sheridan said: Where was that Oz? Beaufort Engineering in Kirkby in Ashfield, made parts for the nuclear division of RR and the Harrier jump jets too 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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