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We had a perfectly good trading area before the EEC. Who remembers New Zealand lamb adverts on the telly ? We traded with many nations including the US West Indies & the rest of the non EU wo

And that is what they are all frightened of Mick, seeing one of their ex members going it alone and doing well out of it without subsidies, the house of cards is starting to tumble   Rog

You are not wrong there Fly, there's still plenty of patriotic people in the country it's just that they are surpressed by the so called snowflakes for fear of upsetting anyone and being called racist

Whats that statistic?, when a country has more than 10% non indigenous peoples living in it, it has lost it's identity, or sommat like that

 

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We lost our identity years ago I'm sad to say. There are too many of our own people who just can't abide this country and its ideals, and choose to denigrate our heritage that our forefathers fought and died to uphold. There's a distinct lack of patriotism. Forgot the World Cup, that was a flash in the pan.

If you want to see what REAL patriotism is, then visit utube and play Red, White and Blue by Lynyrd Skynyrd. 

 

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You are not wrong there Fly, there's still plenty of patriotic people in the country it's just that they are surpressed by the so called snowflakes for fear of upsetting anyone and being called racist,homophobic and so on, Listen to Donald Trump, he loves his country and what it stands for and he don't give a hoot about anyone else (I don't agree with all he says and does but boy his he patriotic)shame we are not taught patriotism in our schools, like you say fly "it's too late"

 

I'm gonna get me arse kicked for this one

 

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As is said in the comments on the aforementioned LS video, 'If you don't like it here, then get the hell out'. 

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A fitting comment regading Powell's speech would be 

"I told you so". Putting it simply, mass immigration does not & never will work.

It's the snowflakes trying to convince everyone everything in the garden is rosey, & it bleddy well aint.

 

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Of course, it's not just uncontrollable immigration that is undermining our society, it's their offspring that has no affiliation with this country's history. Worse still is the fact that we call these offspring British ! No way on this earth are they British. 

I remember reading about Radney Foster, an American country singer whose pregnant wife was accompanying him on tour somewhere in the south. When the birth was foreseeable, he sent one of the road crew to drive to Texas, which was Radneys home state to bring some earth back. Radney said that the first thing he wanted his child to touch was Texas soil. Now THATS patriotism for you !

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57 minutes ago, FLY2 said:

 'If you don't like it here, then get the hell out'. 

 

I did.

I was living on Sherwood Rise (Forest Fields, Hyson Green area) in the years immediately prior to my leaving Nottingham (a place I still hold very dear in my memory).

I left Nottingham at the end of the 1970's and even then there were definite rumblings of unease in the area well before the too well publicised riots. I was working at Gerard's (New Basford) and my route to work took me through Forest Fields and Hyson Green. I became increasingly cautious about the streets I used to get to and from Wilkinson Street and, towards the end, I felt safe only if I went Gregory Boulevard – Radford Road to get there. All the back and side streets I considered too dangerous, especially if I was working late in the winter. Even Berridge Road (which is quite wide and well populated) I considered no-go.

I’ve recently been doing a virtual tour of the area on GSV and, I have to say I am astonished on how different things are and look now. I genuinely had difficulties recognising many things that I used to consider landmark buildings. The frontages were comparable to North Africa in appearance.

 

(Even though I said I hold Nottingham very dear in my memory, that's how it will have to remain - in my memory. The very idea of returning would be too upsetting).

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31 minutes ago, FLY2 said:

Worse still is the fact that we call these offspring British ! No way on this earth are they British. 

 

Quite right Fly, if a dog is born in a stable it's not a horse is it?,it's still a dog

 

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On 9/10/2018 at 2:20 PM, IAN123. said:

Fancy forcing names like Apple and Cloud on kids.

 

Steady on Ian.....Don't forget we have a member whose name is "Melton Stilton"  :crazy:

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To change the subject ever so slightly.....The Brexit negotiations began with the Tories using EU workers in Britain as hostages and bargaining tools. They have now progressed to presenting an unworkable proposition to the rest of the EU and are throwing their toys out of the pram and refusing to play anymore because the plan has been rejected. Their latest stance is "You will do what we want or we will leave without a deal and totally ruin our country - Rule Britannia! [stamp of foot]"  Clearly, they are looking for scapegoats for their failed ability to negotiate.  I blame their  Public School mentality for their inability to recognise or accept Britain's lowly position in the modern world.  You would think it was all a game....you just couldn't make it up.

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Another problem caused by mass immigration is house rents going through the roof, not enough houses.

Not enough jobs for our own people never mind all the EU immigrants, but it keeps the wages cost down by many unscrupulous employers.

Not enough school places for our own kids, it is not unusual now to have kids from the same family going to different schools due to the influx of immigrants.

Women's retirement age unfairly increased by 6 years in one go, all this immigration & benefit support has to come from somewhere.

This country had a crime problem before but we now attract all the EU criminal scum here too.

Enough is enough, Brexit can't come soon enough.

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The money from RTB sales was never reinvested in to social housing. Many ex council houses are now owned by greedy buy to let landlords charging extortionate rents.

My next door neighbour pays £650 per month to an Asian landlord who bought the house about ten years ago for £58k.

Then there was the scandal of certain Nottingham City Homes managers giving out tenancies to their friends & relatives & no action was never taken to rectify that injustice.Nottingham City Homes conveniently swept that story under the carpet.

The only rental properties being built in this city are student flats.

This country breeds corruption, to get on nowadays you have to be corrupt it seems.

Come the revolution ! 

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A statement of plain, simple truth Catfan. I would like to hear the counter argument though! I didn’t vote for Brexit. I expected it would lead to the problems we are experiencing at the moment. I don’t think we should have joined anything but a trading area in the first instance but I think we should argue our cause from within to achieve reform. There are now too many non elected people who are riding the gravy train of the EEC and they don’t want to loose their cushy ‘none jobs’ and gold plated pensions.

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We had a perfectly good trading area before the EEC. Who remembers New Zealand lamb adverts on the telly ?

We traded with many nations including the US West Indies & the rest of the non EU world quite well .

 

The EU is all about subsidies, too many bone idle EU farmers for one thing who are guaranteed top prices for everything they produce, remember the butter & beef mountains, wine lakes etc.?

The fear among our EU neighbours is the excessive contributions we pay every day to be members of that organisation.will be lost  they will have to pay more themselves, one thing I am certain of is that the UKs Brexit will be the beginning of the end for the EEC. Other countries have intimated that they will or could pull out when they see this country recover & stand back on it's feet again.

Brexit for me can't come soon enough & end that madness.

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Some years ago I had a job working to supply a plan for a waste management project to suit a remote Scottish Strath. I had to get EU money for the project and went to a big meeting in Copenhagen to put my case. I had carefully costed everything out to the last penny and asked for £120k, thinking that I had better not ask for a silly amount.  They looked at the proposal and said that they didn't deal in small projects but if I was to extend it to more dwellings they would authorise £250k! .....  You couldn't make it up!

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Sorry you feel that way Margie, but we're just being realistic.

On the other hand, what's the problem with small property developers ? At least they're mostly renovating uninhabitable dwellings, providing extra housing on the market. Ok, so they make a profit. So what ! They've took the risk, and should be entitled to the rewards.

At least it's improving the neighbourhoods. 

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