Bubblewrap 3,815 Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 I am 65 years of age & retired & was on pension credits from the age of 60 (2009) Averaged out I think earned about £300,000 in my entire working life. The most I ever earned in a year was £12,500 in 1994. I shall say no more BUT I am happy with what I've got. We are debt free, happily married, own our home, & have an income to have a lifestyle we enjoy & we want for very little. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Robbie 39 Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 Bubblewrap, And a great book/map collection Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TBI 2,351 Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 Robbie, you seem to be making a point of contention, whilst stating the very reason for it at the same time. Supply and Demand - it's as simple as that! Market forces determine the value of everything, footballers or whatever. That demand is how desirable a person or product is to buyers. The fact that footballers get paid obscene salaries is simply because there are buyers who will pay it. However much anyone resents the situation, it's a fact of life, the most fundemental of economic concepts. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
... 1,411 Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 They are all overpaid unloyal ,dont get my feet dirty ,watch my designer trainers,I want or I wont play,spoilt brats. But I know some think they should earn £1000,00000000"000000000000 ph,and then moan at the price of pukka pies. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
... 1,411 Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 #28 agents demand a substantial amount of money generated,explain that one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bubblewrap 3,815 Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 #29 They know the price of everything & the value of nothing. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TBI 2,351 Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 Market forces and Economics at it's most basic level. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Robbie 39 Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 Of course market forces and supply and demand determine the value but that doesn't mean you just have to sit back and accept such obscenity. I am not saying they shouldn't earn good salaries for the skills they have but lets keep it in proportion and be realistic. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
... 1,411 Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 Microsoft generates billions ,thanks to very skilled intelligent people that are paid less than footballers,it is not basic economics its a working mans game hijacked by nobs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TBI 2,351 Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 I'm actually in complete agreement with you Robbie, but the absolute fact is that nobody can do a damn thing about it, it's just Economics. We can seethe about it and just get wound up but it won't change anything. So I don't get wound up. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Robbie 39 Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 Just out of interest how much do you think a heart surgeon is worth or a cancer specialist, stem cell scientist or a similar highly qualified profession? More or less than a footballer at the top? Maybe if doctors were paid the same salary as a footballer more would stay in this country rather than work and live abroad Quote Link to post Share on other sites
... 1,411 Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 #33 £30 a week + commision off bovril and meat pies,generous I know, but do think thats what they are worth,gives them in the lower leagues something to aim for. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bubblewrap 3,815 Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 Was it Ronaldo? who wrote off a £180,000 Ferrari a few years ago. I said to my wife well there goes a weeks wages. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TBI 2,351 Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 #34 It's a working mans game that's been allowed to get where it is because clubs have become businesses. 'Entrepreneurs' have taken over, and many just as hobbies. But supporters have been accepting of this over decades. Remember if no-one turned up to matches, there'd be no matches, no players earning anything. Back to the days when professional footballers also had a daytime job. But it's never going to happen. You can argue the injustice of it for eternity. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Robbie 39 Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 It really does rattle my cage when there is so much poverty in this world and a select few and I don't just mean sportsman you can include dictators, businessmen and anybody else who falls into this category who earn that much money that if they lived to be thousand they still would not have spent it all and yet they still want more. GREED,GREED and more GREED. I know a lot give to good causes and charities, all tax deductible but don't they let you know about it and often then rewarded with a knighthood. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
... 1,411 Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 It is not in justice it is what stupidity demands,and whilst there is stupidity ,stupidity will be delivered in abundance.only when the stupid are seriously ill do they realise who should earn the money, Then there are the grossley stupid they are called footballers,they beleive they are gods and deserve what they get,but they are rich and grossley stupid,there is a answer to this so called skill,replace the ball with a real football with a bladder,I assure you those so called skills will disapear Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PeverilPeril 3,279 Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 I feel sorry for the top football players. No normal life. Spied on all the time. Surrounded by hangers on. No REAL mates. Nightmares about money. Attract the wrong partners. Proper football is played by the village teams. Anyway - lets hope that England beat Wales tomorrow where we will see true sporting hero's doing battle. Top wages about £600k pa. Peanuts compared to the ballarina's of footy. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bubblewrap 3,815 Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 Thats the price of fame put your self on a pedestal and you will be stared at,shouted at & have your life reported in minute detail If can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen,and get a job shelf stacking in a supermarket at the minimum wage Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tony1 118 Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 I once told a footballer that it was only a game. He went absolutely ballistic. I thought he was going to explode. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TBI 2,351 Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 Well, I don't think too many feel sorry for them, they can always give it up and become 'normal'. lol Dan Carter recently became the world's highest paid Rugby player. But he only just topped a £1m a year, compare that to Ronaldo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Robbie 39 Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 That's still far too much £1m per year Average surgeon's salary £55,000 per annum with a top surgeon on £155,000 per annum. To qualify it takes 5-6 year degree course followed by 3-8 years of surgical residency Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bubblewrap 3,815 Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 And it's the footballer who thinks "He's a cut above the rest" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TBI 2,351 Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 # That's still far too much £1m per year Average surgeon's salary £55,000 per annum with a top surgeon on £155,000 per annum. To qualify it takes 5-6 year degree course followed by 3-8 years of surgical residency It's a matter of choice, Robbie. The surgeon you mention could double his salary by becomong a GP, average salary £102,000 in 2014. My son who is an architect, doesn't earn as much as the surgeons £55,000, despite taking seven years for RIBA qualification, including five years at University and a further four years in practice.. If either of the above were capable of playing top-flight Rugby, they too could make £1m. But they don't have those particular skills and even if they had, they may not choose to take that course. As I've said, it's market forces. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
radfordred 6,284 Posted February 6, 2015 Report Share Posted February 6, 2015 You've got to feel for them having to wear shorts for 90 minutes on a bitter cold day? Brrrrrrrrrrrrr! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Robbie 39 Posted February 6, 2015 Report Share Posted February 6, 2015 #48 TBI, I agree it is all down to market forces, supply and demand and the scarcity of the talent available that determine the worth of this commodity. I just feel that the disparity in wages between the working/middle class and the selected few is far too wide. This includes not just footballers but all who are driven by wealth and greed, regardless of the costs. This inequality is evident amongst footballers within the same team and more so in the lower divisions. I do also think such rare talent in any sport/profession/industry should be well rewarded, but £15m plus per annum. that's a joke both obscene and immoral. If these wage increases continue and with the very clever marketing that is adopted over fans merchandise then all this opulence becomes unsustainable. Some fans inevitably will become disengaged and will disappear, because ultimately it is the fan that pays the wage. I only used medicine as an example, as I am sure there are a lot of professions that are in demand and in short supply who don't attract those unbelievable salaries. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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