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I can understand anyone who has never had a life threatening illness not wanting to spend money experimenting on what may or may not be a waste of money, but there are some of us out there who are liv

My Cholesterol is within safe limits without statins ! 

For those of you who don't like the taste of Benecol, it is a matter of personal taste because I do like it, otherwise I would not buy it. For instance, as for expense, compared to a bottle of wine or

Don't like sweet sandwiches, but had bacon and HP sauce on a brown buttered cob this morning. The ONLY way !

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Next question,If it's jam what flavour,,if it's marmalade what flavour (Lime,Lemon,Orange) and after that which brand

 

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Frank Coopers is good, plus of course Dewars !

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4 minutes ago, Jill Sparrow said:

Benecol is a spread made from plant sterols, Oz. It costs a fortune and tastes like axle grease to me! It is recommended for people with high cholesterol, like me. I prefer Anchor butter!

Just got up to take my thyroid tablets, and noticed your post. Since a Heart attack in 2008, I've got used to my Mediterranean diet (and lots of coffee and biking!) What with that, and the eldest girls turning vegan, I've tried every form of spread, both dairy and non dairy. Checking the fat levels (and remember it's only the saturated fat you need worry about) the two I've really liked are Pure Olive spread (non dairy) and Bertolli Olive spread (dairy)

Pure also do soya spread and sunflower spread..Put them in baked potatoes, or add it to mash, and you don't miss butter. I also use the girls' oatmilk or almond milk a lot. They have minerals and vitamins added to them anyway.

The cardiac nurse said to me all those years ago that the only thing to moderate was saturated animal fats. Plant based fats our bodies deal with better.

I think the two main exceptions to the rule are:

Avocados - plant but high in saturated fat

Eggs - dairy but the cholesterol in them is dealt with more easily in the digestive system.

Instinct plays a part - I hate Avocados, and love eggs.

 

Benecol is over priced, and needs to be consumed in vast quantities to be of benefit. Check it's saturated fat content to some of the other spreads -there won't be an enormous difference.

Enjoy the sandwiches. Spread the anchor thinly, and do one side butter, one spread.

Take care

Phil

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11 minutes ago, Jill Sparrow said:

 I think I'm allowed a tad of butter.

Too right. Gran always said all things in moderation. Stop paying Benecol for their PR gimmick.

I told Professor Hopkinson at the Cardiac unit that I was with Woody Allen on all this.

"The only way to live to be a hundred is to give up everything that makes it worth living to be a hundred in the first place!"

 

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For those of you who don't like the taste of Benecol, it is a matter of personal taste because I do like it, otherwise I would not buy it. For instance, as for expense, compared to a bottle of wine or a pack of Lager, and I do not drink alchohol so my tub of Benecol at around £3 a tub and lasts me around three  weeks, leaves the cost of a bottle of wine  or beer standing, which in many cases is consumed in a matter of hours. So to me it is good value.

 

I decided to try to reduce the strength of my  Statins, even though again taking them is choice, but I am one who does believe that they help to save lives, and a definite help for families with Familial High Cholesterol. I would stay on the Statin, but as with lots of people, the muscle pain and cramp side effects had started to affect my every day living, making my lovely hobby of cycling almost impossible. 

 

A conversation with the Stroke Doc last November, entailed me enquiring about the one a day cholesterol lowering drinks, and his answer was that anything and everything that may help to lower cholesterol is worth trying. All boils down to choice. So that is my choice. £3 month for my  Benecol, compared to just one bottle of wine a week at £5.  All a matter of personal choice.

 

 

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Carni, I think that is a sensible view from the stroke doctor - anything that might help is worth a try.  Personally, I don't buy Benecol because of the price but I don't use much spread anyway.   I did try it once.  Also, I think that statins are a help for some people, especially those who have a family history of stroke.  Paul has taken statins for about 10 years and they suit him.  Each person must  make their own choice about whether or not to take various medications.  I tend to be guided by the doctors - they MAY not be always right but the odds are stacked in their favour...  

As with all things, we can't have another parallel life to see which choice turns out to be the best!!

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I know what you mean about statins and muscle pain Carni, my thighs  hurt like hell when I'm on the trike but I keep pushing because I need to keep the heart and lungs working,I bet some people who see me grimacing in pain when I'm riding think I'm having a fit but by the time it's registered with them I'm well passed them (Whooosh) must admit I don't help myself really with regard to food,always best English butter,thats my two penneth anyway

 

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I can understand anyone who has never had a life threatening illness not wanting to spend money experimenting on what may or may not be a waste of money, but there are some of us out there who are living life on a hope, and in our situation, the Specialist doctors are the only peoples advice I will ever take. I believe they have saved my life on at least four very frightening times, since the first stroke in 2005. We only walk this path once and I want to do everything I can to make my path as long as possible.

 

 

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I refuse to take statins due to awful pain in both arms. I know statins are supposed to be a life saver but personal choice has to come in to the equasion somewhere. I'll take my chances.

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27 minutes ago, carni said:

For those of you who don't like the taste of Benecol, it is a matter of personal taste because I do like it, otherwise I would not buy it. For instance, as for expense, compared to a bottle of wine or a pack of Lager, and I do not drink alchohol so my tub of Benecol at around £3 a tub and lasts me around three  weeks, leaves the cost of a bottle of wine  or beer standing, which in many cases is consumed in a matter of hours. So to me it is good value.

 

I decided to try to reduce the strength of my  Statins, even though again taking them is choice, but I am one who does believe that they help to save lives, and a definite help for families with Familial High Cholesterol. I would stay on the Statin, but as with lots of people, the muscle pain and cramp side effects had started to affect my every day living, making my lovely hobby of cycling almost impossible. 

 

A conversation with the Stroke Doc last November, entailed me enquiring about the one a day cholesterol lowering drinks, and his answer was that anything and everything that may help to lower cholesterol is worth trying. All boils down to choice. So that is my choice. £3 month for my  Benecol, compared to just one bottle of wine a week at £5.  All a matter of personal choice.

 

 

Spot on. I spent a couple of years with the clinics juggling my heart, thyroid and diabetes medication. Biking is now a joy. I know what Plantfit means- the ache at the end of a decent ride is a nice reminder that I've worked hard enough to justify small amounts of stuff that would otherwise not be good.

Buy everything according to budget and taste- completely different for each of us.

Off now to put it into practice. The girls have given me a three-pannier (plus back pack) list for Morrisons, and looking at the frost out there, I need some more coffee and my liberty bodice (called a base layer these days by the posh folk) before embarking.

Take care

Phil

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Wish I had a liberty bodice, it would be on this morning. We are just waiting for the school traffic to subside and we too are off on our trusty steeds. Not sure which way we will go, but it will be on one of the many canal towpaths around here. Hope mi brakes work, must remember not to put them on to quickly on the wet leaves!!! :wacko:

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5 minutes ago, carni said:

I can understand anyone who has never had a life threatening illness not wanting to spend money experimenting on what may or may not be a waste of money, but there are some of us out there who are living life on a hope, and in our situation, the Specialist doctors are the only peoples advice I will ever take. I believe they have saved my life on at least four very frightening times, since the first stroke in 2005. We only walk this path once and I want to do everything I can to make my path as long as possible.

 

 

With you there every step. I owe my life to a very intuitive A & E registrar whom I only know as Rob. He ignored a faulty ambulance read-out and went with what he saw on the table. Ever since, I do as I am told; take the tablets have a varied diet, no smoking (that ceased April 18 2008, an hour before the attack)

and to pay back Rob, and all who worked with him, me and my cycling buddy - another heart survivor - do some of the annual BHF bike rides, usually under the soubriquet The Cardiac Twins.

Definitely off to Morrisons now.

PS DJ360 - your hankering for a full English. You can't be too far from Burscough?

Pre- divorce, I had a lot of family there, and they swore that a full English to them was a mug of tea and twenty Players.

Take care

Phil

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24 minutes ago, catfan said:

I refuse to take statins due to awful pain in both arms. I know statins are supposed to be a life saver but personal choice has to come in to the equasion somewhere. I'll take my chances.

 

Exactly catfan, I agree totally. Your reason is exactly why I asked to come off the Statin. The only difference is that I took the docs advice and didn't come off altogether, but reduced the dose to 10mg a day instead of 40mg. Within  two weeks all my arm pain and leg cramps had completely gone.  The hospital doc wants my level as much below 4 as possible, I am trying to ensure that with diet and exercise. I am seeing him on Wed 6th to see if I have managed it. Contrary to my reputation as a cake muncher, my diet and size of meals would have to be seen to realise I don't over consume  in any way.

Now where's my Cadburys. 

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A quick ride round three villages in the frost, had a couple of sideway slides down the track (can't wait for the snow to arrive) that was fun,drifting on a trike, the local farmer has cut the hedges,well used a flail on them really and there are twigs,small branches and THORNS all over the roads and cycle path, luckily the tyres I use have really good puncture protection (Schwalbe Marathon Racer for them thats cycle minded) and they stood up well, I have ordered one of them Buffs (like a multi function scarfe,neck tube,snood,hat) from a auction website, only a couple of quid,nowt worse than having a frosty/snowy wind blowing down your neck, my cycle jacket zips right upto my neck but the buff should fill in the gaps (I hope) I don't really feel the cold so much when I'm riding,just pedal a bit harder/faster and you soon warm up, well thats it so far,if owt else uninteresting or boring happens in my little world I'll post it later.

Take care everyone and look after yourself and each other

 

Rog

 

Don't know what this has to do with sandwiches,I just put it in the wrong topic, Senior moments happen all too frequent these days

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Madam has Benecol, but as oldphil says, you almost need to bath in it for it to be of any benefit.

Me, other than Lurpak, anything cheap and cheerful. Utterly Butterly for instance, although Lidls do a good substitute.

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