Waddo 921 Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 Yes I know what you mean, it would be like having a two stroke without the benefits of a two stroke. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
philmayfield 6,089 Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 It appears the the wrongly maligned Diesel engine could be due for resurgence. It’s already lower on CO2 than petrols and the AdBlue diesels get rid of most NOX, but now Loughborough University have found a way to get rid of nearly all traces of this. External funding is needed to complete the project but it looks there will be an ultra clean diesel in a couple of years as the technology relates to modification of the AdBlue system and not a complete reworking of the engine. All-electric have still got a long way to go with mileage problems and recharging infrastructure before they become practical for most users. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Waddo 921 Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 Thankfully not in my lifetime, give me good old suck,squeeze, bang,blow any time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
philmayfield 6,089 Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 Yes, you can’t beat a few hundred horsepower up front and the growl of the exhausts. I think we’re lucky to have come from the generation where we’ve seen the development of the internal combustion engine to what it is today. I still look back fondly though to the weekly engine tunes, the setting of the points and timing and the balancing of the carbs. We still have a 1972 Midget in the garage where all the mechanicals have been refurbished but needs recommissioning. I might have a go if time allows but the grass cutting, hedging and gardening season is almost here! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
siddha 822 Posted July 17, 2018 Report Share Posted July 17, 2018 There were a number of variants of these made with probably the most common being the Swallow body. I am not sure who made this one; the rear end looks as if it could be a fabric construction in which case it might be a Hoyal's body. I do like the ACE discs covering the wire wheels. From the Minor web site At least 24 separate British coachbuilding companies manufactured bodies for the Morris Minor chassis. A number of these companies produced more than one model, the most prolific being A.P. Compton (Arrow) with 8 models and a total of 6 different body styles. CMS, Gordon England, Maddox and Hoyal also included more than one Minor based model in their ranges. Those U.K. based companies known to have produced Minor Specials are listed below: Arrow (A. P. Compton) Boyd – Carpenter (B.C.) Brainsby (Trentlein) CMS (Coventry Motor Sundries) Colmore Depot Cunard (Stewart & Ardern) Duple Gordon England Hoyal Jarvis Jenson King Bros. (K. B. Special) Maddox Maltby Martin Marshalsea (Taunton) McEvoy Merlyn Mulliner Page Salmon & Sons. (Tickford) Sullivan SunRayn (Page & Johnson) Swallow Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brew 5,378 Posted July 18, 2018 Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 Never heard of it but could it be through linkages rather than direct into the gear box - or an automatic (doubtful) or a pre-select (even more doubtful). Failing those it must be a guy with a remote control 'clicker' in the back seat.. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fogrider 179 Posted August 6, 2018 Report Share Posted August 6, 2018 Re Cripps, someone having a look at my old Commer, supplied by E.R.Cripps, asked if Cripps dealt with heavy plant. This has been mentioned to me before, just checking on this forum and I see two references to construction or agricultural plant, one by daveep5491 and one by Clifton, so, was the plant company an offshoot of Cripps or did they just have a finger in someone else's pie ? All the stuff I have on Cripps relates solely to the Rootes Group, cars and lorries only so I assume Cripps may have had another company apart from their Rootes ties. Can anyone enlarge on this construction/agricultural aspect ? Regards all...... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NewBasfordlad 3,599 Posted August 6, 2018 Report Share Posted August 6, 2018 As far as I know Cripp's had a heavy plant site on Triumph Road Lenton. The info I have is old as it came from a mate who's now dead talking about his father who was gate keeper there Quote Link to post Share on other sites
trogg 2,002 Posted August 6, 2018 Report Share Posted August 6, 2018 Can anyone remember a Vauxhall dealer who had premises on the Valley Road and Scotland Road area of Basford. I thought there was one there in the early 70s, but I cannot find any sign of one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
philmayfield 6,089 Posted August 6, 2018 Report Share Posted August 6, 2018 As far as I remember you could see the Cripps heavy plant site as you passed over Abbey Bridge towards Beeston. They also sold International Harvester trucks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NewBasfordlad 3,599 Posted August 6, 2018 Report Share Posted August 6, 2018 Trogg there was a filling station on Valley road opposite the Futurist. But I also seem to remember a car dealership left hand side of Nottingham Road between Valley road and Vernon Road almost opposite the end of Scotland road. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
philmayfield 6,089 Posted August 6, 2018 Report Share Posted August 6, 2018 There's a Volvo dealers there now of course. At one time, in the 60's Arthur Short Plant used to be on that site. I can't remember who moved in when Shorts closed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cliff Ton 10,435 Posted August 6, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2018 I worked for Cripps for about 6 months in the mid 70s. They occupied the site on Lenton Lane opposite what is now the university complex. Part of the Cripps operation was International Harvester tractors - sales, servicing etc. The other part was car dealership, which at the time was Chrysler; I was there when the Chrysler Alpine was introduced. The two parts were semi-independent, but ultimately under the same parent company. At some time the Cripps car dept also had the dealership site further along Lenton Lane, which is now a Honda dealer. For a few years they also had the sales and service station on Mansfield Road opposite the junction with Edwards Lane, next to the former Metropole cinema. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fogrider 179 Posted August 6, 2018 Report Share Posted August 6, 2018 So it is clear there was a part of Cripps into plant etc. Thanks for the above comments, did the tractor/heavier plant side have a separate name ?, that would be MOST helpful, Regards all...... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fogrider 179 Posted August 7, 2018 Report Share Posted August 7, 2018 Nottstalgia has come up trumps again !. The IH advert with R Cripps and Co says it all,( including Cliff is right), excellent , and yes Ian, I'm still biking but on smaller/lighter bikes. My R1100s is for sale as we speak, too big, too heavy, but I'll miss it...…. Mother in-law worked for Cripps on Lenton Lane, but at 91 she doesn't even know who her daughter is anymore, cruel world aint it, Regards all 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cliff Ton 10,435 Posted August 7, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2018 13 hours ago, fogrider said: So it is clear there was a part of Cripps into plant etc. Thanks for the above comments, did the tractor/heavier plant side have a separate name ?, that would be MOST helpful, Cripps was the name used for the plant side of things (International Harvester), there was no other name used. The site on Lenton Lane was divided into three sections; one for construction equipment; one for agricultural plant; and one for cars & head office. If you look on Streetview two of the three sections are still there, although obviously not Cripps. In the later years - mid 70s onwards - the car part operated under the Henly's name. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
philmayfield 6,089 Posted August 7, 2018 Report Share Posted August 7, 2018 That would presumably be the site now occupied by Mellors and Kirk the auctioneers. I’ve been there and didn’t associate it with Cripps but it obviously was. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cliff Ton 10,435 Posted August 7, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2018 Not quite. The Cripps empire at its peak was this range of buildings: https://goo.gl/maps/xgGcVZe5Bo22 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
davep5491 360 Posted August 8, 2018 Report Share Posted August 8, 2018 My recollection is that Cripps operated in Nottingham as Cripps of Nottingham for cars and commercials and R. Cripps co.Ltd. for the rest. At Triumph Road there was at various times a commercial vehicle shop - Commer, Dodge, International Harvester Lodestar, and Scammell Scarab. Commercial vehicle sales department. A tractor shop - International Harvester. A heavy plant shop repairs and hire - mainly Scammell A plant shop for refurbs to Drotts and IH bulldozers. An engine reconditioning shop for plant machines. A field services department for all plant stuff. A fuel injection reconditioning shop later cars arrived and a body shop opened. A viewing gallery to watch all the Raleigh office girls passing by. Abbey Bridge was at one time the plant shop and the body shop.. Main offices and pay office at Parliament Street. some car sales. Cripps also owned a block of cottages/houses somewhere near the nurses homes and where Hooley's used to operate from, some key staff occupied these premises. Lenton Lane was opened when Henly's got involved. I remember a director of Henly's asking a Cripps manager how much he earned per hour for a commercial bay against a car bay, the manager was told he could get 2 cars in a commercial bay. Commercial repairs didn't last too long after that. R.Cripps and Co. Ltd had depots At Nottingham, Manchester, Leeds and Aycliffe County Durham. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NewBasfordlad 3,599 Posted August 8, 2018 Report Share Posted August 8, 2018 ^^^^^^^Glad my mate was right about his father and Triumph road then, I was beginning to doubt until you came along Dave. He always said his father was a gatekeeper but I know he was a sign writer as well, wonder if they did any of that there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
davep5491 360 Posted August 8, 2018 Report Share Posted August 8, 2018 NBL The gateman I knew was John Linguard. Signwriting was outsourced the one I knew was Dennis ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NewBasfordlad 3,599 Posted August 8, 2018 Report Share Posted August 8, 2018 It would be way before your time Dave, my mate was 82 when he died two years ago and of course I am talking about his father. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fogrider 179 Posted August 9, 2018 Report Share Posted August 9, 2018 davep4591's post fills in a lot of useful details about the plant and repairs side. I wonder , Dave,( or anyone who may know), did one of the managers on the plant side have a very old Rolls Royce ? Certainly employed under the Cripps company name, Regards all Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fogrider 179 Posted August 9, 2018 Report Share Posted August 9, 2018 well, I've just learnt more about the Rolls Royce owner, this may go back too far for Nottstalgians ! ! The mans name was George Henry Neale, Kegworth address. His involvement with Cripps was apparently in the mid thirties so I rather think that is specific research. Definitely on the heavy plant side, Scammels are mentioned as well as Abbey Lane. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
denshaw 2,869 Posted August 9, 2018 Report Share Posted August 9, 2018 Ian, are you sure that's Oakdale rd? Looks a lot like Carlton rd. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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