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Nottm Children's Home Skegness

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catfan    9,390

Pipewood was a totally different ball game all together, my sisters went there before it closed down, I remember visiting there.

Pipewood was for anyone, no particular criteria requested. The regime there was much more friendlier than Skegness Childrens Home believe me.

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parmitage    125

Yes my sister also went to Pipewood but me and my brother went to good old Skeggy. I seem to remember that for the first two weeks you missed all your family then on the third you were looking forward to going home.

The school masters name was Mr Topham who taught the boys half a day and the girls the other half. One day during your stay you had a brief visit to the fun fair.

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terence12    722

Catfan, #121, fully agree, i had one week, skeggy, i remember i had a bladder problem, so one night, monday think it was, wet the bed, was only about eight/nine, deeply ashamed then, and now still, was made, in front of everyone, to strip the bed, wash the sheets and blankets, mangle em, bloody mangles, hated them ever since, and hang them all out to dry, had to eat on my own, walk on my own, and sit on my own all day, That night had to wait till everyone had gone to bed, then remake my bed, whilst they all watched, and only then could get in bed, also comes to mind one day we all went to the swimming place, i think it was where the Embassy is now, i had no swimming gear, couldn't afford it, so they lent me something to put on, shorts about three sizes too big, god embarrased aint in it, Best bit about Skeggy Holiday Camp, arriving home

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Robbie    3

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Like Terry I fully agree with you Catfan.

It definitely wasn't a holiday camp, it was the most degrading and humiliating institution I was ever made to go to.

BTW #122 I didn't come from a broken home either, we were just poor. My parents thought it was best for me at the time to go there and enjoy 3 weeks by the sea. It's a shame that I was too scared to tell them what it really was like when I returned home.

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Blondie    1,351

These places, I think were swings and roundabouts, I always heard good things and bad about them in the fifties from poor kids at school...................Some of these kids never got a decent meal at home, no nice toys or clothes, lots of thrashings, no fun at all, these places were a respite to them, 2 poor girls in my class loved these places, they would never had gotten to see the sea or play on the beaches otherwise and they were always given new clothes by the education committee to take with them, that was at Hucknall Notts -Then other reports I heard from other's were bad ...................I think it depended on the teachers who took them, most of the teachers in those days were frustrated, power hungry, barstewards who took their frustrations out on the kids, especially male teachers, they always seemed to have to be picking on some poor kid............Times had to change, but has it been for the better, I wonder...............

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The Engineer    424

You may recall earlier in this thread I mentioned asking the City Council for a list of Roseberry House attendees under the Freedom of Information Act 2000. They have responded with a refusal notice based on the anticipated cost of retrieval of data and also citing the Data Protection Act.

Dear Requester

Re: Request made under the Freedom of Information Act 2000

This Authority has considered your request which was received on 10th August 2015 and our response to your questions are shown below.

A list of names of children attending Roseberry House Skegness during its operation by Nottingham City Council as summer holiday accommodation. Period unknown but spanning at least 1950s and 1960s. Information limited to list of names for each year.

We are unable to provide the information requested as we do not hold centralised records for this establishment. To do so would require us to review the individual records of all young people who received support during the timeframe that the unit was open.

Please note that were we able to locate the information within the appropriate limit, it may well be exempt from disclosure. Under section 40(2) of the Act, personal information about identifiable living individuals is exempt if disclosure to a third party would breach one or more principles in the Data Protection Act 1998. The individuals concerned would not expect this information to be disclosed to a third party. To do so would be unfair; therefore, disclosure would breach the First Data Protection Principle (fair and lawful processing).

As an example of the time that would be required in order to undertake this task we have focused on the number of children looked after by the authority during this period. This will only provide a partial picture as it is understood that not all of the children and young people who spent time in the unit were actually in local authority care. We do not have data on the number of children in care during the 1950’s and 1960’s so we have therefore based the time calculation on the current number of children who go into care each year which is approximately 800. We estimate that it would take at least 10 minutes to search each case file to see if the child attended the unit while looked after. This calculates to over 130 hours of continuous work.

Therefore on this occasion, the Authority has decided to exempt itself from complying with your request as the cost incurred in providing a response would exceed the appropriate limit of £450, which is equivalent to requests that would require more than 2.5 days' continuous work.

As the Authority is withholding the information as detailed above under section 12 please accept this letter as a refusal notice issued in accordance with section 17 of the Act.

We apologise for the delay in responding to your request. Please be assured that we are taking active steps to improve the processes surrounding our information requests to ensure we answer requests in a timely manner.

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catfan    9,390

I did'nt hold my breath Engineer !

Thanks for trying tho !

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catfan    9,390

I was chatting to my sister, funnily enough at Skegness yesterday ! She remembered going to the girls home at the same time my brother & I were at the boys home. What she can't remember is where was the girls home situated ? We only saw the girls in church on a sunday but we were not allowed to talk to them.

I did know the name of the girls home years ago but sadly that memory has now gone.

Only in the later years,did both homes amalgamate at Roseberry House.

Can anyone help please ?

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crankypig    358

Catfan. #133

I found an interesting artical on the Internet about the poor girls home,it has a few photos,it says the home closed in the 60s,I'm afraid I don't know how to put it on here....if you want to send me your email I could maybe send you a link to the artical.

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freckles    194

I went to this place in the early 1950s with one of my sisters ,I was nearly 6 the first time I went we went the following year as well ,I will be 69 this year and can still remember it,a nightmare from hell.I remember the "matron" well you held your breath when she went passed.

Breakfast a bowl of milk with cereal floating in it and a very hard boiled egg,there was always cabbage at lunch time and bread and marg or dripping at supper ,no talking at lights out or till you got up in the morning,Schhool for half a day it was the school holidays for godsake,church on sunday with scratchy grey blazer and a hat that kept slipping down .The first night you had to have a bath and every child had nit treatment whether you needed it or not.

When my own children got to that age I wondered how could my mum and dad send me to that place but i suppose you only remember certain things but those things made a lasting impression on me.

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FLY2    7,586

Sounds delightful !

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catfan    9,390

#136.

So, so true.

I would never have inflicted that on my kids.

The one & only good thing I remember was never going to bed at night hungry.

When at school we existed on our free school dinner & that was it until the next day !

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catfan    9,390

Here's a few pictures taken this week .

 

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The dormitory was the other side of this wall.

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How it looks taday, years ago was a long dormitory with rows of single beds & all the decor was Nottm City Council's dark green & cream gloss paint !

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Nowadays the dorm is devided in to two area's.

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Old "Inmates" might remember the long passageway where we lined up in single file on arrival to be devided up into house groups, seemed to take ages. These days has also been devided into two work spaces where clerical work is undertaken of some sort.

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catfan    9,390

Also very decent & friendly staff working there too Ian.

What struck me as surreal was the fact that not many of the workers there had been born when I was last there 55+ years ago  !

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colly0410    734

139 Catfan. 

 

That 4'th photo down would have been taken from around where my my bed was, (4'th bed along from the door bottom bunk, my No was B8) still have shivers when I think of the place. I've lived in some right grotty places since: Drafty & freezing army nissen huts on many occasions; but nowt as ghastly as that horrible place. Thanks for photo's CF..

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mary1947    705

I was at Skegness girls home in the 50,? and at the time it was the Skegness Carnival week, the home had two open lorries which had to join the parade, we had a beauty queen and attendants, and other girls in fancy dress (can't remember what kind of fancy dress) but there were two sister's who had very bushy hair and they dressed them as Adam and Eve using large  leaves to cover their bits with a vest to cover the top half. The problem was that it was a freezing cold day, I felt very sorry for the two girls.

 

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norabatty    0

Loved finding this group while doing a bit of nosing round on the internet. Visited Skeg for the first time in at least 30 years recently. My other half took me to see the place where his parents ran a b&b in the 60s/70s. Turned out it was on Clifton Grove so got the story of the home on Roseberry which I looked up and that's how I found this forum. Would love to see the photos from then, as part of the site is a Mormon church now. 

Not surprised Nottingham City Council did not want to let any info out about the goings on there. Most (possibly ALL) of their children's homes are being investigated now for abuse, this one wouldn't have been any different I imagine. It certainly doesn't sound it. 

Anyone who did suffer abuse and has carried it with them throughout their adult life should make sure to report it now, to the IICSA enquiry. 

 

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catfan    9,390

Repost of photo's because of PB fiasco.

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Classroom.

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Playground now a car park, but was never anything there anyway !

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catfan    9,390

A few interior photo'staken a couple of years ago. Now not a children's home but has something to do with children & parents, (parental access) etc.

Much more friendly & children focussed than when I spent time there as a child, last time 55 years ago.

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Office area, was the original "Back Door" entrance where new arrivals would queue.

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Jill Sparrow    4,331

Sounds like it might be used as a contact centre, Catfan. Looks a bit like it too.

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catfan    9,390

Yes, I think that it is called something like that now Jill, me & Mrs C turned up quite early in the morning & the staff on hearing about my memories there were only too kind in inviting us i for the guided tour before any parents or children arrived, they had only a brief idea of the sites former use & were quite surprised to have an "old boy" visiting.

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nottsgirl    1

we went there in the late 50s after my dad died, me and my sister ran away, the police found us on the beach, I remember have a uniform on and marching over to the church on Sunday.tried to find the place when on a visit to skeggie many years ago but since found out it was pulled down

 

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catfan    9,390

Brunswick Drive.

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