IAN FINN 606 Posted December 4, 2022 Report Share Posted December 4, 2022 Have not heard that music Oz for years great video thankyou. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Oztalgian 2,927 Posted December 4, 2022 Report Share Posted December 4, 2022 10 hours ago, The Pianoman said: So Bedford SB would have similar meaning? The Bedford SB was a front-engined forward control bus chassis manufactured on a ladder frame chassis from 1951 to 1986. Quite a long model life across 8 iterations, powered by just under 5 litre petrol engines up to 6 litre diesel units. I would hazard a guess that all of us on here would have travelled on one of these at some time during our lifetimes. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Oztalgian 2,927 Posted December 4, 2022 Report Share Posted December 4, 2022 5 hours ago, The Pianoman said: And a Skillys one to keep it company The MGO Bristol Lodekka, proper bus! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Pianoman 1,485 Posted December 5, 2022 Report Share Posted December 5, 2022 Both the blue 'uns on that picture are actually Notts & Derby Traction. Splitting hairs a bit with the Bristol tho'. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Oztalgian 2,927 Posted December 5, 2022 Report Share Posted December 5, 2022 12 hours ago, The Pianoman said: Both the blue 'uns on that picture are actually Notts & Derby Traction. Splitting hairs a bit with the Bristol tho'. I don't think I ever saw a Notts and Derby bus? I only remember the ones on those routes pictured being MGO. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Pianoman 1,485 Posted December 5, 2022 Report Share Posted December 5, 2022 No, I've never seen Notts and Derby Traction either but then I never looked. They were just referred to as blue buses as distinct from green 'uns. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
notty ash 347 Posted December 5, 2022 Report Share Posted December 5, 2022 All Midland General and N&DT buses were owned by Balfour Beatty until nationalised. The N&DT/MG distinction was essentially a bookkeeping exercise. Their tram routes and replacement trolleybuses had been specifically enabled by Act of Parliament, whilst pure bus routes didn't require this. The N&DT buses were (nominally at least) direct replacements for the tram and trolleybus routes only. I remember seeing N&DT motor buses in places like Hucknall on occasion, so the distinction was not always followed. The trunk route from Ripley to Nottingham went from trams to trolleybuses, then to motor buses. Ilkeston tram services, which had been taken over from the town council, went straight to motor buses. Mansfield District were also owned by Balfour Beatty but went straight from trams to motor buses. I think Balfour Beatty also owned at least one company in South Wales too. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
plantfit 7,215 Posted December 8, 2022 Report Share Posted December 8, 2022 Here it is shortly after restoration, I saw it many years ago at the Ashby Magna vintage rally but it looked rather sorry for itself and the then owners didn't really know much about it's history, I knew it from it's time picking up office staff to work at H J Baldwin Loughborough road Bunny (Bunny brickworks), I have some photo's of KNN 314 in it's new red and white livery and it does look good Rog 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Beekay 4,411 Posted December 8, 2022 Report Share Posted December 8, 2022 A number 59 Sneinton Dale, but what's the location?..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
philmayfield 5,518 Posted December 8, 2022 Report Share Posted December 8, 2022 I think it’s the top end on the hill close to St. Steven’s church and Green's windmill. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cliff Ton 10,009 Posted December 8, 2022 Report Share Posted December 8, 2022 The road's a bit wider, but it's still recognisable today. https://goo.gl/maps/UVhJBNCmu2bqpBvh6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
philmayfield 5,518 Posted December 8, 2022 Report Share Posted December 8, 2022 I remember it as it was then when we used to visit my grandmother on Greenwood Rd. back in the 40’s/50’s. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Beekay 4,411 Posted December 8, 2022 Report Share Posted December 8, 2022 Thank you CT & Phil. (I knew someone would know). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
notty ash 347 Posted January 3 Report Share Posted January 3 A nice photo on the cover of the latest Bus Archive mag available here Bus Archive Newsletter No. 18 - September 2022 (Second Proof) Nottingham trolleybus in the snow Older editions of the mag are listed here, though not much about Nottingham they may be of interest... Newsletter - The Bus Archive - the memory of the bus industry 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Beekay 4,411 Posted January 3 Report Share Posted January 3 A great picture N.A., pity it's spoiled by the City of Oxford sticker over it. Would have made a super card. B. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
plantfit 7,215 Posted January 3 Report Share Posted January 3 4 hours ago, notty ash said: A nice photo on the cover of the latest Bus Archive mag available here Bus Archive Newsletter No. 18 - September 2022 (Second Proof) Nottingham trolleybus in the snow Older editions of the mag are listed here, though not much about Nottingham they may be of interest... Newsletter - The Bus Archive - the memory of the bus industry Some great headlines there, I like the Mile by Mile booklet, I have one for the LNER, I tried to follow it last year when I went to Edinburgh but impossible with todays speeds, some of the stations are still there but such a lot have gone by the wayside Rog Quote Link to post Share on other sites
notty ash 347 Posted January 3 Report Share Posted January 3 Ask and ye shall receive Getting us in the mood for Christmas (or at least some snowy weather) is this shot of Nottingham 516 (KTV 516) a BUT 9641T trolleybus with Brush bodywork new in March 1950. (Roy Marshall collection, ref. RM02/C20946). As with all our posts, feel free to share widely but please credit us and please respect our copyright. And remember to 'like's 'follow' The Bus Archive. 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mess 540 Posted January 5 Report Share Posted January 5 On 11/30/2022 at 12:14 AM, Oztalgian said: mary1947, The Midland General "blue" buses had them too. The AEC versions were called Lowbridge buses. It was related to the height and clearances under some of the railway bridges. The passageway down the drivers side of the upper deck was lower than the seats and it filled a teenage males heart with joy (and other things) when a buxom clippie leaned over you to get the fares from the passengers near the windows. IIRC NCT had some buses with seats like this too. I think they may have been trolleys. Presumably there were some low bridge routes around the city. Any bus enthusiasts able to confirm? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cliff Ton 10,009 Posted January 5 Report Share Posted January 5 There were low-bridge buses on the Clifton route, which was jointly operated by NCT, South Notts, and West Bridgford UDC. It was due to a railway bridge on Wilford Lane - disused after the late 60s. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Beekay 4,411 Posted January 5 Report Share Posted January 5 I'm pretty sure that in the late 60s, Makemson of Highbury Vale had a low decker that was used on the Bulwell market to Bestwood village. I used to drive part time for them and a couple of occasions I was asked to be a conductor on that run, (I'm sure it was on a sunday). I still had both conductor and driver badges at the time. Happy days eh? Although probably didn't think so at the time. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Beekay 4,411 Posted January 5 Report Share Posted January 5 Something I've just thought of...Didn't there used to be a low headroom bridge on Meadow lane. I seem to recall hearing while at Bilborough depot, of somebody wedging his bus underneath it. The mk3s were 14ft 9in and we were told in driving school, you needed 15ft 3in clearance to pass under bridges. It's funny what you remember after 55 years. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
denshaw 2,825 Posted January 5 Report Share Posted January 5 The bridge on Meadow Lane was very low, possibly about 12ft, lorries used to get stuck under there. Wilford Lane Bridge was used by fleet number 398 and 399 lo deck buses. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MRS B 332 Posted January 5 Report Share Posted January 5 Mr B once wedged a lorry under the railway bridge by Brush in Loughborough. Oops Also I remember that vehicles used to get stuck under the railway bridge on Melton Road Tollerton every so often. That must have been quite low. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Pianoman 1,485 Posted January 5 Report Share Posted January 5 That's interesting. Things must have changed between you doing your PSV and me doing mine. I did mine (I think) 1990 and my instructor had me going along Awsworth Lane, Cossall, running towards Coronation Road when he hollered at me "what did it say on that sign?" Me "what sign?" I wont go on 'cos there was loads of questions but suffice to say it was (and still is) a low bridge sign. He continued - "How high is this bus?" (ex Salford City Transport, Metro-Cammell bodied 1967 Leyland PD2) Easy I thought big sign above windscreen "14ft 6"" says I. "And what is the minimum clearance required?" says he. "Don't know" says I (hadn't read that part of the Bible yet). By this time we were just about to go under said bridge but I had realised that he wouldn't have sent me there if things hadn't been legal - however I still ducked as we went under. He then proceeded to lay down the law telling me that the minimum clearance was 3 inches. I had of course noticed that the bridge was (and still is) 14' 9". Still to this day I look at low bridge signs and still examine that 14' 9" sign on that bridge at the bottom of Cossall Marsh. Here is said bus: 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Pianoman 1,485 Posted January 5 Report Share Posted January 5 5 minutes ago, MRS B said: Also I remember that vehicles used to get stuck under the railway bridge on Melton Road Tollerton every so often. That must have been quite low. Still do. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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