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Ditto. I really don't see the point in the colour schemes either? The fact remains that to catch a bus one needs to look at the destination and number on the front. The NCT bus that runs past where I live is one of the 'Purple Line' buses, I'm not going to catch it on account of it being purple though as three other services share the same colour scheme. Seems pointless to me.

While I'm at it, another gripe. The double-deckers we used to have have recently been replaced completely by new single-deckers which are quite small. They don't have enough space for passengers at busy time so people are left crammed down the aisles, hanging on with people crushing to get off. I wonder how NCT consider that to be progress?

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Old Nottingham City Transport Single Decker

Old Market Square , Nottingham c1960s

At the age of 18yrs i became a conductor on NCT, i trained, 1 weeks training, on the service 55 Bilborough to Bulwell, on the 1st day just stood in the platform watching the conductor, George Palmer,

If you are as sad as me, some of you might like to hear what one of these little 29 seater Bedfords sounded like. Try this for size :

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Lovely gearbox whine.

I always preferred the sound of Nottingham's AECs to the Leylands. Sad, I know!

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Ditto. I really don't see the point in the colour schemes either? The fact remains that to catch a bus one needs to look at the destination and number on the front. The NCT bus that runs past where I live is one of the 'Purple Line' buses, I'm not going to catch it on account of it being purple though as three other services share the same colour scheme. Seems pointless to me.

While I'm at it, another gripe. The double-deckers we used to have have recently been replaced completely by new single-deckers which are quite small. They don't have enough space for passengers at busy time so people are left crammed down the aisles, hanging on with people crushing to get off. I wonder how NCT consider that to be progress?

At least NCT have given-up the mad idea of running midi-buses.

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Please Mester NCT can we have our traditional green and cream buses back ? Your current lucky dip colour schemes are awful.

If a bus breaks down it can't be replaced by any bus, it has to be one of the same colour.

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Oo aye - not 'arf yer would. That electrosity was funny stuff (I don't understand how they get it to come through the gas pipes these days - any more than how gas can come along wires, but there it is - the gas company sells electrosity and vice versa - whatever that means). And from the registration number, I think this beastie was rebuilt from a 1939 AEC Regent double decker, which had the running number 31.

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Ummm - err - no. You couldn't replace any colour of bus with one of them - to do that you'd need them wire thingys up above!

It was just the colours of the bus I wished to mention.

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Was never "into" buses or trams, other than catching the former apart from a brief interest in the "mechanics" of the tram/trolley system, them "wire thingy's up above", the generator stations etc and the routes, am same with the railways, know little of the various loco's. However I digress, I know of course of the tram route to Ripley, but did any trolley buses run on that route? As a kid in the 1950's I recall a new bus stop being set up outside where I lived on Nottingham Rd New Basford, then being disappointed to find I could not use it for local rides, (the only ones I ever took), recall mum saying at the time words to effect of "it's to replace the ripley trams"? which I had never heard of! her thinking back to when she lived on Alpine Street and the first "Ripley Rattler" of the day was better than any alarm clock for waking her up! Do recall all the various Midland General buses that used to stop there, at one time knew all their route numbers to these far off places like Hucknall etc but don't recall whether these were running up north before that new bus stop? Can't say have seen many photos of those buses or indeed Ripley Trams

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Do recall all the various Midland General buses that used to stop there, at one time knew all their route numbers to these far off places like Hucknall etc but don't recall whether these were running up north before that new bus stop? Can't say have seen many photos of those buses or indeed Ripley Trams

This nearly includes both. A bus which probably came from Nottingham, and the tram wires overhead.

http://www.sct61.org.uk/mg149

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Thats an interesting shot, Heanor market place, I don't think I have seen that one before.

I have a few photos of trams and trolley buses of the Notts and Derby Traction Co. I will have to sort some out.

I think 3 of the trolley buses have survived into preservation, mainly from being used in Bradford the last trolley bus operators in Britain I believe.

Here is a shot of one of them.

http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4075/4742138170_fda33cc934_z.jpg

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You are right, last trams were around 1933 or so, last Trolley bus around 1953. So the trolleys only had 2 more years to run after that photo was taken.

The whole of the fleet was sold on to Bradford City, some would have even run to Nottingham in Bradford colours for a short period from what I have read. Conversely some would have run in Bradford with N&D colours for a while although there was actually not much difference between them.

The trams and trolley buses each had a life span of around 30 years, the trolley wire posts remained for a while, they were used to provide street lights by suspending a lamp in the centre of the road on a wire between two posts.

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According to a book I have "Through running by Notts & Derby [trolleybuses] commenced in October 1933 in time for the annual Goose Fair which started on 5th October. Thus Notts & Derby trolleybuses entered and left Nottingham, King Street/Queen Street, via Mansfield Road and Nottingham Road, instead of via Hyson Green - the route the trams had followed." A 1926 Nottingham tramway route map shows the Ripley tram terminus at Upper Parliament Street near the big Co-op.

The Notts & Derby and Midland General routes that ran via Nottingham Road were A1 (the Ripley trolleys - reduced to a very infrequent rush hour only service after conversion to motorbuses in 1953 - the main route to Ripley then became the B1 that went along Alfreton Road joining the old trolley route at Nuthall Road/Stockhill Lane junction); F2 went to Ilkeston via Kimberley, High Spania and Awsworth; F4 (introduced about 1952?) went to Hucknall, Beauvale Estate via Larkfield Estate and Watnall.

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Have you ever read D H Lawrence short story "Tickets Please" it starts off with a very interesting description of the Notts and Derby tram route to Nottingham. "The most dangerous tram-service in England"

After that its not exactly Lady Chatterleys Lover but it isn't about trams either.

anyway here is a link to it, an interesting read.

http://www.pseudopodium.org/repress/shorts/D_H_Lawrence-Tickets_Please.html

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so I reckon that new bus stop sign went up 1953 then for the new motor buses? would have been 7 then so maybe just didn't notice their trolleys before that? there is (or was till recent) 2 wire support posts I know of on that route one at bottom of Sherwood Rise nr The Polish Club and another on the old 610 Eastwood Rd near The Hay Loft, no doubt there are others? I recall the street light in the middle of the road, was interesting in high winds when they twisted and gave deep shadows,lol

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