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I joined a chosen few last Monday for a 'drinks reception' at Millennium Point. There were a few representatives from intu Victoria Centre and the clock was working (just about - the Orchestra motor was a bit intermittent).

Got a message a couple of days ago to say there had been a loud 'motor noise' and that they had switched the clock off in fear of what might develop. Went this morning to investigate; trouble was that they had unplugged the lead, coiled it back and replaced the floor tile that covers the sockets. Not a problem per se but they couldn't find the 'special tools' to lift the tile. After a bit of a delay I hooked up a temporary supply with an extension lead and powered up. The only noise I heard was from the motor that drives the 'Top Feature' (the mobile/pendant thing), which was squeaking and its bearings were rattling - I decided it wasn't going to burst into flames or anything so I didn't disconnect it.

The 'special tools' (two curved lengths of M10 threaded rod with hose pipe sleeving) turned up behind the reception desk so I re-instated the supply, re-taped the flex to the floor and set the clock to the right time (sounds simple but I had to synchronise the chimes). I sat and watched it for around an hour and it behaved.

We have confirmed this Thursday 18th for dismantling (Friday as well if needed) so I should be there all day for that.


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and back to the topic of the thread...

Here's how the dismantling went:

Thursday 18 September 2014

Started disassembly, working mainly with Shain (technician at MP) and the Spider MEWP. Tim took parts away (clock faces, petals, bouquet, etc.). We struggled to lift the clock tower (tube on tube fixing – it had been tight on assembly). We separated the tower but its flange was still stuck fast. We diverted attention to petal removal. We returned to the flange and managed to get it off by oscillating while lifting with timber. There was a discussion, including engineering managers, over how to remove the Sunflower as use of the Spider as a crane was now forbidden. Plan was to use a portable tower platform and step ladders. I had reservations, knowing how heavy the sunflower was. Knocked off around 1745hrs.

Friday 19 September 2014

Further discussion regards Sunflower. Think Tank technicians produced and assembled the tower scaffold. Assessing its weight, consensus was that it would not be safe to attempt to lower the Sunflower while reaching from step ladders. The Sunflower clearly weighed less than the Spider basket plus two persons, so it was agreed to use the Spider, despite the restrictions in place. A strap was wrapped around the Spider arm and the centre frame of the Sunflower. From step ladders, we stabilised it as it was lowered onto a pallet. The control box was then lowered to the ground in the same manner. That just left the frame which we moved on a pallet truck, followed by man-handling through a double doorway. That involved lifting and tilting, much as we had done during installation, way back in June. Tim took more parts away, leaving the large and heavy bits to be collected mid-week (Sunflower, turntable, cobweb wheel, control box, lower tower and main frame).

Parts now in storage - I need to check where! (somewhere between here [Nottm] and Birmingham).


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So what are we supposed to do now if we need the use of the no longer there facilities???? And is it my eyes or have the escalators moved?

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So what happened to the Time Fountain (Emett Clock) foundation stone that was in the floor? Do you suppose they have they tiled over it? I know it was cracked but had hoped it would be resurrected to go back with the clock on its return.


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Why can't they leave things alone. ?......a lot of people, (especially the older generation) loved the clock and seatIng area......There was nothing wrong with it the way it was.......Money could have been spent on more needy things........

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Hope the clock does come back to Notts. We last saw it at Millenium Point Birmingham. Believing it was being retuned to Nottingham in the New Year? Fingers Crossed that nothing has changed. :)

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I had a look in the 'new' Vic centre on Saturday.

All that empty space where the clock and toilets were seems really strange, same at the other end, towards Tesco.

The lack of seating seems very ominous, if Intu are anything like Westfield, every inch of that space will be filled with barrows, stalls, stands, sales pitches, in other words, anything to make money for Intu!

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