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The more pictures I see of these Fantastic Buildings with so much history and charactor that have been demolished, the sadder it makes me. The saying "You don't know what you've got till it's gone" comes to mind.

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Colour version of the above Albert Hall photograph

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Shops at top of Derby Road near Canning Circus, the old brewery at Mar Hill Carlton, the Viyella building on Castle Boulevard plus many lace buildings in the Lace Market. Then there is the Park Estate.

 

A house called Kingswood at Bulcote, The Institute and Coffee Tavern at Hucknall, Mortimer House on Castle Road, and strangely, Budworth Hall at Ongar in Essex.

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Here's the Black Boy before it became the building we recognise. Seems to have been a bit of a nondescript place until Mr Fothergill got his hands on it; this is the building which he modified to his own style.

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I heard that when the Australian cricket team stayed there they had the bells on the council house clock silenced. I don't know if this is true.

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I think you will find "The Bells" on The Council House are silenced every night between eleven pm? & Six am? (not sure of exact times)

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The last chime of Little John is at 10 pm and the first in the morning is 7.45 am. Perhaps that wasn't the case 60 years ago.

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Lizzie, You put my mind at rest with that bit of info about Little John. I had been expecting a sleepless night, the first time we stayed at The Ibis. :biggrin:

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I'm not talking about modern times. I don't think the bells were always silenced at night.

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On Ebay at moment photo of interior showing part of the former Black Boy Hotel

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First picture of the interior I've ever seen. Thanks.

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Strange to think that just 50 years before that photo of Cliff tons, that section of road was more or less a bog flooding in bad weather...And even stranger if you stand there today that below your feet is stone from the Fosse originally quarried by Roman engineers nearly 2000 years ago.

http://www.nottshistory.org.uk/articles/tts/tts1931/itinerary1931p3.htm

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Messing about with enlargements on Britain from Above and trying to work out how far back the hotel went. It looks a complete jumble of bits and pieces.

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Looking at old maps, it seems to extend back about forty or so yards, a strip between Black Boy Yard and Maypole Yard.

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Thanks Cliff,just to the left of the dome..( High St.) i can see three shops,Carl?..just past the old Boots shop,I only recall that modern bank and a loading bay,first time I have noticed this..ta!

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Here's a picture of some nice panelling in the Black Boy !

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Doesn't seem to be much of a history online of the Black Boy . I notice on the advertising posters on page 2 of this thread , it says Turner and Co as the owners . They appear to have owned it for over 100 years .

Thomas Turner born about 1816 seems to have been the founder .He died at the hotel in 1887 .

This Rootschat link has him on Smithy Row as far back as 1841and they appear to be a Gunthorpe family .

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=9750.0

This is them on the 1871 Census . Interesting to note that of all the servant , only one is a local .

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There's this also . From 1900 :

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I think the Market Street version may have slightly changed its name over the years. PTP date this as 1972 and the name over the entrance is 'Black Boy Inn'.

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That's it Cliff,looks like Moss Bros in the reflection?

Nice Rover Malc!

My Mum booked us at Alidair for a week in Ilfracombe..when we got there the place was packed with Dalton's Weekly folk..for half the price!!

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That clears up the confusion in my head. In my precious diaries of the late 60s/early 70s I've written that I went to The Black Boy and I just couldn't figure it out because THE Black Boy had been demolished. Now I know where I was drinking on those evenings, thanks for the photo Cliff Ton.

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Just looking a bit more for anything on Thomas Turner . In the 1840s a Thomas Turner was the licencee of The Shoulder of Mutton , Smithy Row .

I presume he then left there to go to The Black Boy and can see his name in the 1860s at that address .

Confusingly there also seems to have been a Shoulder of Mutton on Barker Gate .

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