Compo 10,326 Posted June 10, 2012 Report Share Posted June 10, 2012 Nottingham City Transport: 1. On what date did NCT first introduce the rear engined double decker bus and on what route did it operate? 2. Was it a Daimler or Leyland? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paulus 541 Posted June 10, 2012 Report Share Posted June 10, 2012 1. 1963 2.Leyland Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mick2me 3,033 Posted June 10, 2012 Report Share Posted June 10, 2012 I remember it happening. Was it around 1965? I remember this big motorbus turning up instead of the old 43 Trolley Bus, that I caught from Bentinck Rd to Trent Bridge. A real novelty it was, it might even have had doors on that you got on at the front. I think the 58 from just down Hartley road might have been totally motorbus, due to the fact the wires did not go down that way? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mick2me 3,033 Posted June 10, 2012 Report Share Posted June 10, 2012 Posted same time as Paulus Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paulus 541 Posted June 10, 2012 Report Share Posted June 10, 2012 Mick, your reactions must be slowing, or are you partaking of the grape/grain?.............................I certainly am, a very good Pinotage................... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cliff Ton 10,435 Posted June 10, 2012 Report Share Posted June 10, 2012 They had Leyland Atlanteans operating on the Clifton routes in the early 60s Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BulwellBrian 107 Posted June 11, 2012 Report Share Posted June 11, 2012 The first Daimlers came before the first Atlanteans, but I dont know when or on which routes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Compo 10,326 Posted June 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2012 I thought the Daimlers were earlier than the Leyland but that's only an impression. I used to catch the No.64 from Trinity Square and the first one's I saw were Daimlers on the No.49 and 64 routes. It was some time later that I saw my first Leyland Atlantean so I assumed that to be the order of introduction. A schoolmate's big brother worked in the NCT allocation office and he would sometimes let us know what buses had been allocated to our route in advance. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mick2me 3,033 Posted June 11, 2012 Report Share Posted June 11, 2012 As I remember the Motor Buses on the 58 route were distinctly different to those of the 43 and 44. But not being a bus expert, I could not tell why? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
roger peatman 337 Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 First were Daimler Fleetlines flat front with Gardiner 180 engines 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cliff Ton 10,435 Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 Forgot I had a book for anoraks on Nottingham buses. It also states what Roger Peatman said above - the first Daimler Fleetlines (18 of them with Park Royal bodies) came to Nottingham in1962. And shows a photo of one at Broad Marsh on a 68 route to Clifton. And....... the book also shows a Leyland Atlantean demonstrator on a Clifton route in June 1961. But apparently early Atlanteans were unreliable and badly built, so not many operators bought them. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Compo 10,326 Posted June 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 The two thing I remember most about the Daimlers is the smell of the interior and the muffled sound of the engine compared to front engined buses. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
catfan 14,793 Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 Flat front Daimler's were quite nice to drive ! They first came into service in 1962, I think. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Merthyr Imp 729 Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 Here's a photo of one with some details:- http://www.old-bus-photos.co.uk/?cat=160 I'm pretty sure they did first enter service on the 68, as I remember going on one to Clifton and back when they were new for the sake of it - a whole 4d each way! By the way, unlike front entrance buses today where you pay the driver as you get on they still had conductors on them in those days. They then became regulars on the 49 and I would travel on them to school and back. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
piggy and babs 544 Posted February 19, 2013 Report Share Posted February 19, 2013 good job they did when we all got on after night out at whitehart late sixties driver would not know what had hit him even conductor never managed to collect all the fair before we all rushed off at the square and it didnt mater witch end of the bus they started collecting. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted December 4, 2016 Report Share Posted December 4, 2016 Hissing Sids i did like. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
catfan 14,793 Posted December 4, 2016 Report Share Posted December 4, 2016 NOT, if you had to drive one all day ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deepdene Boy 642 Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 46-63 (46-63NAU) were the Park Royal bodied Daimler Fleetlines, in 1962, which were followed by 64-94 in 1963, except for 73, which came in 1964. The 64-94 batch were bodied by Northern Counties. 73 arrived later as it was used to develop a modified ventilation system. The Park Royal bodied buses were initially allocated to Parliament Street depot, whilst 64-78 went to Bilborough and 79-94 to Bulwell. The first Leyland Atlanteans 401-422 arrived in 1964 and were initially allocated to Parliament Street, but were re-allocated to Trent Bridge in early 1965 when the 43s were converted from trolley bus to motorbus operation. 402 had a reputation for high speed running and became known as the Trent Bridge flyer. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
catfan 14,793 Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 Those 400s (401-422) were based at Bilborough Depot in '74 when I joined & imho were the best Atlanteans on the job ! Very basic with no power steering & iffy brakes as well ! Another downside were the very poor heaters on board, freezing in winter & don't forget Bilborough Depot did not have indoor parking for every bus, a lot were parked outdoors overnight. Imagine being allocated one of these at 4am on a winter's morning !!! A short drive in to the depot where a space heater was positioned to blow hot air inside the bus after a small patch had been scraped off the windscreen to aid visibility beforehand ! I well remember doing a shift on the service 36 & 41 routes (known as the Khyber Pass) very fast buses & was not unheard of the regular driver's nipping back to Bilb' Depot for a cup of tea after each arrival at Percy Street or Cinderhill Road, much to the section inspector's annoyance Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deepdene Boy 642 Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 Catfan, I didn't know that 36 & 41 were run out of Bilborough in '74, I thought that it was a Parliament Street Depot rota. It certainly was back in 1972 when it was the first group of services converted to Autofare operation. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
catfan 14,793 Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 Yep, they did run out of Bilb', my date could be wrong but was on the Bilb rota, I worked a few days off there when nothing was happening at Bulwell. The "Lost" mileage accrued by the Bilb' lads was enormous due to unofficial trips back to the depot for a cup of tea ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tim in the North East 200 Posted April 29, 2017 Report Share Posted April 29, 2017 The early Daimler Fleetlines were used on the routes that went up Hucknall Road - I remember catching them from the stop outside the City Hospital entrance back towards town. Was that the 49 and 64? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
denshaw 2,869 Posted April 29, 2017 Report Share Posted April 29, 2017 49 and 64 went along Mansfield rd and Edwards lane to Bestwood park. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Compo 10,326 Posted June 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2017 Until the late 60s the terminus for the 64 was the Nell Gwynne pub, at the junction of Gladehill Road & Oxclose Lane. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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