firbeck
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Thats the one, Port Isaac, ta, It's only about 6 miles from where we stay (Nr Camelford) I don't know what I saw it on.
Still get the odd thing coming out of St Mawgan , a Couple of Hurcules in April , along with a few commercials too, plus my first view of the new Merlin.
Have you not been to Port Isaac, it's fantastic, scene of the Doc Martin series but called by another name.
We can't stand Padstow, Rick Stein has unfortunately inadvertently wrecked the place, everyone is cashing in on his presence and it's become a pain.
Merlins come over here all the time from Wattisham, along with those noisy snarling Apaches, we had one hovering over the town yesterday
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Refresh my memory for me please , when we were at Duxford I'm positive I saw a plane in the Red Bull markings , I have gone through my photos of the day and must have been too disgusted to take a pic, so what was it ??
Now you've got me, haven't got a clue, they have a B-25 operating in Europe, but unlikely to be that one, it looks appalling by the way.
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What did you think then, the massed trainspotters standing under the station sign at Mansfield made me wonder what that was all about
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There's a name from the past, Barry Noble.
In the early 70's he aquired several cinemas and promised to make one into a rock venue, well the city was lacking such establishments then.
I happened to be working for the local architects responsible for his projects, which were basically to turn them into Bingo halls, he had no intentions of producing a palace of rock, it was just a whim he had blurted out in a Radio Nottingham interview.
I was quite pally with John Holmes at the time, unfortunately he betrayed my confidence by accident, and made a comment about this on his saturday morning show, our company subsequently lost Nobles work, fortunately the old boys in charge didn't listen to Radio Nottingham and I got away with it, I was crapping myself for months afterwards.
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Remember the George Hotel on George Street, dead posh, allegedly.
One day the then PM, Ted Heath, stayed there so we went to suss out the bar.
Standing there with me pint, I noticed things crawling on the floor. Looking closely, I saw to my horror that they were cockroaches, they were everywhere, the only time I've ever seen them in an establishment in this country.
A woman sitting nearby asked me why I was looking at her legs, when I told her that a cockroach had crawled under her seat, she freaked out.
The next minute a manager arrived and asked me what I was up to, I told him that his establishment was overrun with cockroaches and he smiled and said that I didn't know what I was talking about and not to alarm the customers, at which point I peeled one off my shoe and gave it to him. I was promptly removed by some very large gentlemen, very politely I must say, and 30 plus years on, I've never been back.
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Well, it's obviously getting the publicity it deserves, remember when the class was 10 a penny at Grantham back in the 60's.
Good coverage of it on TV last night, big question, what colour scheme will it end up in, my bet is on late 1940's apple green with BR logos, personally, I'd like to see it in BR Brunswick Green, the scheme which most of us can relate to.
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Blimey what time did you get up this morning mate.
Following our last trip to Cornwall last year, might I reccomend Port Isaac. First of all, make no attempt to drive into the town, park in the top car park and walk round the cliff path, if you're lucky as we were, you might see a school of porpoises. Hopefully the tide will be out and you can sit on a rock and let the kids get on with it, it's such a pleasant enclosed bay with loads of good rock pools. Don't forget of course the fantastic fish shop next to the harbour ramp, the stuff in there is amazing and half the price of the rip off stuff at Padstein, where else can you buy a freshly boiled lobster for less than a tenner.
Word of warning, don't buy a pasty from the shop at the bottom of the hill, Doc Martin was right, they are poisonous, and when you stand in the harbour, Doc Martins 'surgery' is on the hill to your left, you can't miss it.
Another good place is Widemouth Bay, they have wierd rock formations stretching out to sea that have some really good pools, great sandy beach, nice cafe and shop as well, decent pasties, and a good deal on out of season wet suits out of the container parked next to the cafe.
Nearby is Crackington Haven, wrecked at the same time as Boscastle, but never got the publicity, loads of pools there.
Nearer to you, Polzeath is good at low tide for mussels, I picked a whole bucketful last year, they were stupendous, they even survived the journey back to Essex.
Many years ago when the Shackletons and Nimrods were flying out of St Mawgan, we hung out in Watergate Bay, good deep pools there, I remember standing on a monster crab, yes, I love crab, but I couldn't take it back and boil it myself.
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Sad isn't it that they have to resort to this, yes I'll sign it, but I think it's unlikely that the Government will sacrifice a bank to pay for an airshow attraction, unfortunately, it's arrived on the scene at a bad economical time.
With regard to Richard Branson, other sources suggest he's put a fair amount of dosh into it all ready, he may be wealthy but he doesn't own a bottomless pit, he's already had an unfair kick up the backside and unreasonably lost his Virgin Cross Country railway franchise recently.
It's a similar tale with the Sea Vixen, restored then sponsored by Red Bull, then having to be painted in their terrible corporate colour scheme. When airshow bookings dropped off, they pulled out of the deal, it's now painted in RN markings but rarely seen and like the Vulcan, will possibly cease flying next year.
Euro Lottery tickets tonight folks, with a pledge to save them both.
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so true,,,, that used to be the same in all walks of life back then,,,,,, (despite the 'public' personna of the "Big I am" - that all teenagers put on) they wouldn't need asking twice,,,, nor the other way round,,,,,, the old 'uns had time for the 'young upstarts',,,,,
why has it all changed,,,,, surely it can't be our fault - can it ?
Baz
No it's the us and them situation created by the media. My youth is 14, I'm an old git at 57, does he have a problem with that, no way, we will no doubt spend the evening cracked up with my tales, as well as his, as we usually do, it's a good laugh, we just get on with it, perhaps he's special but it's the way you deal with it, isn't it?
Having a Uni older graduate son giving a him kick up the backside helps as well, but then I've gone through all that with his majesty as well, he's always enjoyed going to traditional pubs and taking in the atmosphere, he still does, lurking round the Nottingham pubs has, by his own admittance, been a good learning curve for him.
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There's actually a pair of them on our High street running a kebab shop !!
Thats alright then, when half of Winsford are poisoned by that rotting crap they may be sent back to use their kebab expertise in making explosives and blowing themselves up.
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Just copy and paste ,then delete your old message
Too technical for me Captain.
Just out of interest, do you have Sky or a Freeview box, or a posh telly with Freeview on it.
Everyone seems to have a flat screen telly these days, but our wide screen Panasonic that we've had for a few years with it's cathode ray tube occupying half the room is the dogs, whats the point of replacing it, assuming we could afford to do so.
I went mental last year, installed a massive ariel in the loft, bought for bog all from a B&Q sale, shoved TV cables down the airing cupboard and pantry and stuck TV points everywhere. Each telly in the bedrooms is connected to our various digi boxes aquired over the years, including one of the first, a sad job, but it works perfectly. I have one old telly without a scart connection but have fed it through a video recorder that I picked up for a couple of quid from a boot sale and that is probably what I'm going to have to watch tonights programmes on, unless madam can agree it's her turn to go upstairs, unlikely, especially where Ms Bradbury is concerned.
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Same when you meet an Iraqi nowadays, none of them agreed with Saddam!!!
How many do you meet on a day to day basis then, you silly sod, they line up down the road from me everyday trying to sell me an 8F.
Only joking old pal.
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Re Hitler Youth and SS, I doubt said youth was forced to serve with SS though hitler youth membership was compulsary, It amazes me how the germans managed to conquer all those countries, post war I never heard of one who was a nazi or agree'd with hitler's ideas, (cept a few at nuremburg)
That was Albert Speer, crafty bu99er, sorry, bogger, pleaded guilty and got off with his life, the fact that he was in charge of the slave group, 'Organisation Todt', and he was responsible for thousands of deaths, was apparently considered neither here nor there, as long as his Nuremburg testimony put the finger on Goering.
There were many branches of the SS, the Waffen SS just considered themselves as a fighting corps, though their brutality in the field summed them up, they were, amongst many other things, guilty of executing captured Sherwood Foresters in the field prior to Dunkirk.
There's an interesting story though. One German joined the Waffen SS as a confirmation of his allegiance to Hitler and the Reich and was wounded on the Eastern Front. Following his convalescence he was sent off to be a guard at a concentration camp. He was horrified and refused to have anything to do with it. He was court marshalled but put up the defence that he had signed up as a fighting soldier, not an accomplice to murdering civilians. He got away with it and was sent back to the Russian Front, he survived that as well.
Funny, I went off on a course to Bavaria, home of the Nazis, a couple of years ago, formed some good friendships, but would they talk about the war, no way. Even after a few steins down at the local bar, the most I got out of them was that ones grandfather had been on U Boats, he didn't want to talk about it, even when I pointed out that whatever side he'd been on he must have been a brave man to do that, no go, what guilt, it's ridiculous after all these years, it doesn't do anyone any favours to sweep it under the carpet, unless your'e descended from Himmler of course.
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Thanks chaps.
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Sorry, my last posting should have gone on the Railway Walks thread.
How could I have forgotten it as it starts with a picture of the lady in question.
Have any of you railway buffs been to Loughborough to see Tornado, £3m pounds worth of new Pacific, if so, how impressive is it.
They could have saved themselves the money by purchasing at the time the last one, St Mungo, that I saw and photographed at York shed in 1966, I think it was available for it's scrap metal value which was a few hundred quid at the time, but obstacles tended to be put in the way in those days.
My father worked with a real enthusiast then and they formulated a plan for all chipping in at work and buying a Fowler ex LMS 2-6-0 'Crab'. They even went so far as to looking in to keeping it at Wollaton Colliery sidings. Like many preservation attempts in those days, it came to nowt.
When the GCR restored 71000 Duke of Gloucester, they had to manufacture most of the vital parts such as the cylinders which were missing, well not quite, they were on display in the Science Museum along with its name and number plates, but the miserable gits wouldn't give them back.
This worked well in the long run because the restorers found flaws in the original design and put them right, I gather that Tornado has been more or less built to it's original spec though.
Duke of Gloucester was originally on the list of due to be preserved steam locos published in 1960, I found the list in one of my books when I was trying to work out the 8F conundrum.
After rotting away at Crewe for a while, BR changed it's mind, stripped it and sold it for scrap, fortunately it was purchased by Dai Woodham at Barry, who, after a scare when it was delivered to the wrong scrapyard, was determined to keep it intact, along with as many of the other locos he had obtained as possible. Thanks to that one man, our steam preservation movement is alive and kicking today, otherwise it would have been pathetic, no thanks to BR.
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I made a mistake and put my comments on tonights railway offerings on the Steam thread instead, perhaps the mods can redirect it.
Just had a look on BBC4's website, railway night looks pretty good tonight.
Starting with an old repeat of Steam Days, still it's about steam into Cornwall, we have a gem at 8:00, a programme all about the building of Tornado, the new A1 Pacific, no doubt with film of it running in on the GCR at Loughborough over the past few weeks.
Our Julia is hiking along an old railway in Redruth, then an hour long programme about the demise and rise of the steam engine since the war, no doubt I shall be banished up stairs to watch it all!!
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no doubt the crematorium like some others in the past being built by poles
Hmmmmm, no answer to that, ironic that it's on a site once occupied by members of the SS though, home from home.
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nextdoor but one , The Exchange ??
Thats the one, is it still there.
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I've been all round the Internet trying to find out why the Flying Horse closed, without success, it's a bit of a mystery to me. There's an old thread on here about the place, but know one seems to know why. One worrying comment suggests it was a bit of a gay bar in the 60's/70's, I honestly don't remember that, it was always a good place for a snog with drunken secretaries around Xmas time, I hope they were actually female, they seemed to be at the time.
A couple of regulars on a friday night were Pedro Richards and Viv Anderson, they used to meet up in the bar upstairs, a good example of County/Forest friendship over a few pints.
What was the name of the pub next door but one to the Flying Horse, I remember it was a bit rough and all the pros used to be offering their services outside at closing time.
One saturday we went to a party in West Bridgeford and one of our mates got off with a very attractive girl and ended upstairs in bed with her.The next week we were leaving the Horse and saw her lurking outside the pub next door, when she saw us, she hid her face, he was worried for a while afterwards over what he might have caught, I think he ended up going to Glasshouse Street for a check up.
A bloke just down the road from us in Braintree took over a bar on the next street, he refused to sell the usual Greene King rubbish and sold local micro brewery beer. In his living room round the back he put on folk bands and had play yourself nights. Thing is, he refused to acknowledge the smoking ban in that room, his excuse was that it was part of his own private house and he could do what he liked. The result, constant fines and court appearances resulting in the place being shut down a few weeks ago, a tragedy really, another local pub gone, whether you agree with his motives or not and most people seemed to agree with them.
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How about Wymeswold.
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Could someone explain to me why the Flying Horse was closed down, it was always packed in there on a weekend and our favourite meeting place, it must have made a fortune.
When I moved to Finchingfield in Essex 20 years ago it had 4 pubs, considering the small size of the place, it was astonishing.
The Green Man closed down about 10 years ago, but the village still has 3 pubs!!
There's The Fox, the tourists watering hole on the village green, the Red Lion on the hill, the most ancient and pleasant, but the landlord resigned after Greene King shut down Ridleys brewery, then there's the Three Tuns where all the old boys go, how they all survive is beyond me and they all have to sell the same bloody Greene King beer, not much choice round here anymore.
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The bloke in the offie on Trowell Road would split packets of Park Drive and sell them individually, I reckon they were 3d as well, gave you a hell of a headache and a sore throat.
Didn't you get 3d back on returning an empty quart bottle of Shipstones Nut Brown. Sometimes he'd put the empties out in wooden crates for collection and some kids would take them out and take them back into the shop for their threppenny bits, cheeky sods.
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As regards a quiz, What was unusual re Stainer 8F LMS no. 8071 based at Nottingham shed?
According to my combined volumes starting at 1948, it doesn't exist.
I can only asume it was drafted into the WD during the war and sent abroad, possibly to the Middle East. In which case it could be part of the famous sunken cargo of 8F's sitting on the bottom of the Red Sea, or it could have been destroyed in the North African campaign, or it might hopefully be one of the half dozen or so survivors remaining in Turkey, of which I hear negotiations are underway to bring some back, one came back in 1989 and is being restored.
I've just read that one is rumoured to be in Iraq, unless the Americans have liberated it as a war prize.
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A simplistic supporting summary, to the effect that many from these parts perceive him to be your archetypal Essex Git - a veritable semi-articulate version of John Terry...must confess, I rather struggle to spot this alleged sincerity.
Cheers
Robt P.
Oh dear, I've just been up to Tescoes and been surrounded by Essex Gits, I didn't know what to do, I'd better ask that nice man Gordon Ramsey for his advice. well he's a Scottish tosser, same thing isn't it, even worse, an even greater self opinionated pillock, trouble is, he has many Michelin stars so it makes it ok, does'nt it.
I've worked in a kitchen too, the food was palatable but uninspiring, it's about time that the restaraunt industry in this country was given a kick up the backside. they deserve it.
Good grub can be produced at reasonable prices, but we get swamped with adverts for those poisoners called McDonalds, don't go there, yes, your kids get sucked into the advertisement dilema, it's difficult to ignore, their current campaign makes us puke, don't be fooled, seek out somewhere else, our chipoil in the town is fantastic.
Avro Vulcan prototype
in 50's Nottingham
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I've been out most of the day site visiting and only just seen this, I presume you mean the Mig 21 next to poor Mark Hannahs Phantom, in which case I might be able to find out.
This will make you smile, on a whim I applied for a job at Duxford yesterday, well the building industry is dead, one of the perks is free admittance to airshows with up to 5 guests, keep your fingers crossed, you may not have to pay £30 a time next year, I'll settle for a pint instead.