Nananocki

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  1. hellothere I do apologise for jumping in on this thread, I've read through it a few times as I have a keen interest in the tunnels at the Welbeck estate. I am from Worksop and run a paranormal investigation group. I have approached Welbeck Estates a couple of times to try and get permission to investigate the abbey and tunnels (without success) but I don't give up easy and am paying a visit there again in the next week or two!! (I'm hoping my pesistence will pay off!!) My team have just been given permission to do an investigation at The Ship in Worksop which folklore states, has a 'secret tunnel' which leads to Welbeck Abbey, how much of this is true I don't know. I've read about a group of you arranging to meet up to go to the tunnels, has this happened yet? Does anybody know anything about a tunnel supposedly running to The Ship? :-) any response would be greatly appreciated x

    Hi

    I think hell will freeze over first before the staff at Welbeck will allow you to wonder off the footpath and into the tunnels, but good luck all the same. Some are crumbling and quite dangerous. I've been down most and didn't realize until later that they were off limits. Welbeck staff patrol round the estate with gamekeepers shotgun n all so not a place to start wondering around without consequences if discovered. I can tell you there is no tunnel leading off the estate to Worksop. The nearest tunnel to Worksop is next to Tunnel End Lodge, I think it's called, opposite South Lodge on the OS map of the area (SK 568 753). Maps from the 1800s show all early tunnels and cuttings which show no such tunnels to Worksop. When the Worksop bypass (A57) was constructed in 1984 a large cutting was cut out of the land between Worksop and Welbeck which is much deeper than any of the tunnels on Welbeck Estate. The bypass forms a barrier between Worksop and the Welbeck estate. When the planning was carried out for the Worksop bypass route the survey would have revealed all and any structures under the proposed route. This would have revealed any hidden tunnel, non were found. Feel free to message me for more detail. You could always go on one of the guided tours of Welbeck which I'm sure you would enjoy. Tickets go on sale approx Jan 2013. I must admit that I find your paranormal investigation group quite interesting and would love to be proved wrong if you did indeed find something of interest at the Old Ship Inn.

  2. Hi all

    go to http://www.bing.com/maps/ and click on the OS or the birds eye views to see Welbeck Abbey. Google maps or Google Earth too. The tunnels are clearly visible. They are hidden from site on ground level but only by a few yards if you know where to look. Big enough for a horse and carriage, if you happen to have one lol.

    http://location-coll...il.html?id=4649

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    If anyone is interested I may be visiting the estate this weekend. I know this is short notice but I'm not working so have to grab what free time I have plus I live just down the road.

    I've got some photos but have absolutely no idea how to put 1 or 2 on here.

  3. I personally would like to photograph/video the tunnels in the interests of history but don't have the necessary equipment or skills at the moment, so any volunteers are welcome, and also get involved in any future plans to restore them. I would be interested to know if the estate could apply for a grant for the restoration of the estate and tunnel system. Some of the old buildings have already been converted for commercial use, such as the riding school which is used by Award Publications, by the Welbeck Project (www.welbeckproject.com). At some point the tunnel I have been down will either need restoring and making safe or blocking off completely for safety reasons. This tunnel may even have been forgotten about but it was used in the past by the college students to walk through for years. The brickwork on the side of the cutting walls outside the tunnel entrance is falling off in places but is generally ok on the walls inside the tunnel but some large cracks are evident in the ceiling with one area of the brickwork blistering off. With one end of the tunnel open to the elements the tunnel fills with mist on rainy days thereby rusting anything metal. It is such a shame to see these historic structures crumble away and trees growing into the cuttings as nature start to take back the land. The grand scale of the cuttings, tunnels and buildings on the estate is truly staggering to see and can only be appreciated fully first hand. The craftsmanship of the work is also second to none.

  4. I stick to footpaths so I don't trespass but from there you can see quite away around the estate. The security are usually only interested in people walking on the estate and grounds around the main house. The tunnels extend quite away out and into wooded areas. I popped into a wood just a few yards in from the footpath to take a leak and nearly fell off the top of a tunnel entrance into a 12" high cutting. There are a few large cuttings that are not part of the tunnel system on the estate in the wooded areas so its best to stick to the footpaths really. These open cuttings used to form an open carriage-way around the estate that the duke could travel around but most have been filled in now. I've found that when you spot some of the really old type of iron fencing then be careful as it was put in place for safety. Looks like even the 5th duke was interested in Health & safety.

  5. Went down tonight. Very misty down the tunnels as it was raining a little. Foggy and dark, very creepy. Had to go after work tonight as only time possible. Too dark to take a video but some of the pics from my phone just about came out. Deff need a good quality camera or video camera with a good flash and a bright light to light up the tunnels fully. Would love to take a video of the tunnels as they won't be open for ever and they won't last for ever, a few big cracks in the roof can clearly be seen. I used a Duracell Daylite which is only just ample to see where to go but not good enough for photos. A few close up pics of the old gas taps and the gas burners which they controlled in the centre of the roof are not to bad. Some of the gas taps had little doors that were rusted solid and others were rusted away. Small vents were situated between the gas burners and the skylights which were 15ish paces apart. Contact me for any more info as to time and place of next tunnel outing or if you want the photos. I think the onsite security were quite active tonight but managed to dodge them quite easily. 4x4 was driving about with spot lights blaring and I noticed an infrared illuminator hiding in the woods, so someone was spying on something.

  6. In reply to how i got in there. It would be difficult for me to explain unless i knew you had local knowledge other than that i would be quite happy to give an unofficial guided tour if enough people were interested for free.

    Hi All

    I went down some of the tunnels a couple of weeks ago and I'm planning on another trip soon. I would be very interested in any tours that you may be planning in the near future. I've been on the estate many times over the last couple of years but not managed to find the semi-submerged greenhouse although I have an idea where to look. There are a few more areas of interest on the estate that I would like to explore further one day too and any first-hand knowledge I can get would be very useful indeed. I have recently found some web site links with photos of the estate for anyone who is interested.

    http://location-collective.co.uk/location-detail.html?id=4649

    http://location-collective.co.uk/location-search.html?inpSearchText=4648