[William Frederick Rogers - railway employee 1920s - 50s]

Thanks. Yes, searching the Canadian records I came across quite a few with the name William Rogers. I did find one attestation document dated Sept. 23rd. 1914 for William Rogers with a father also named William Rogers and next of kin Dorset, England registration 30674, but the date of birth didn't match (23 August, 1880)

[William Frederick Rogers - railway employee 1920s - 50s]

 

Thank you very much. I really appreciate your response.

 

I am particularly interested in his army record during WW1, but I realize many British Army records were destroyed during the Blitz. I was able to retrieve his navy record from 1905 through 1910 and learned that he was seconded to the Canadian Navy as crew on their first battleship the HMS Niobe renamed HMCS Niobe and redeployed out of Halifax, Canada.

 

I know that he married in York, Ontario, Canada to a recent arrival from the UK, Ethel Kirk, and had a daughter Dorothy there. I know that Ethel Kirk (Kirke) had numerous siblings.

 

I know that he returned to the UK in 1914 to fight in WW1. That's where I lose track of his record. The question arises: Did he return to England to join the British Army, or did he enlist in Canada with the Canadian Expeditionary Forces as seems would have been logical. Canadian records are available but I have not been able to locate him. There may have been a reason for that.

 

I believe the Canadian CEF would initially not take married men and he may have given false information on enlisting. He had only recently married and had a young child. Why did he enlist? It could have been that the marriage was not going so well, but I only know things were not perfect.  Your information has some new elements though. His date of birth varies on his records. You mention November 23, 1887. That is new to me. Also thank you for his Kimberley address!

 

My mother was born in Nottingham to Bill Rogers and Ethel Kirk who had by then also returned to the UK from Canada. Oral records claimed that initially she (his wife) would not let Bill in on his return from France in 1918. Nevertheless, my mother, Ethel Rogers, was born to Ethel in 1920. They later also had a son Albert Rogers. They are all now passed away. Bill and Ethel later separated and Bill found a new partner in Ivy. When I first met Bill he was with Ivy. It is said Ethel Kirk became very active in the Union movement in and around Nottingham.

 

I was born in Blackpool in March 1944 while my father, Joseph Kenneth Jackson was stationed there with the RAF. During WW2 he served in Northern France and Belgium. After the war our family joined him at RAF Eindhoven in the Netherlands. Bill and Ivy came to visit us there after WW2. He used to regularly send us copies if the Eagle comics by mail that my brother and I greatly appreciated.

 

What I am trying to find out is whether there are family or acquaintances that remember William Rogers (Bill Rogers) and know about his army service. I personally have very fond memories of him as my grandfather. I am also very impressed with his service in both the Royal Navy and in WW1 in the army.  He was reported to still have had issues with shrapnel wounds. One report was that he served as a linesman in France. Was that with the British Army or the Canadian Expeditionary Forces. Some record to confirm either would give me enough to better understand the battles he must have been in. I intend to pass this record of service on to my grandchildren.

[William Frederick Rogers - railway employee 1920s - 50s]

His name was William Frederick Rogers. He fought in France during WW1, possibly with the Canadian Expeditionary Force. In 1920 he was married to Ethel Kirk and had two daughters. He was provided with a railway cottage adjacent to the Kimberley railway station. His first job with the railway around 1920 was as plate layer. Later he became an inspector and I believe station master by 1950. I believe his mates called him Canada Bill. He had moved to Canada in 1910 on Canada's first battleship the HMCS Niobe but returned to the UK in 1914 after joining the army. I have not been able to locate his Canadian Expeditionary Force (CEF) army records although I have found his previous British navy record of service from 1905-1910. He may have returned to Britain before volunteering for the British army.

 

Any information that could provide a lead for further research would be appreciated. Railway records should provide some information since he was a long-term employee. He was employed as a WW1 vet. He was born in February 1986.His daughters were Dorothy and Ethel. His son was Albert Rogers. 

 

 

Born February 1886 in Weymouth area. First married in York, Toronto, Canada. Later separated after returning to Britain and found a life partner with a lady named Ivey. His son Albert lost an eye as a young lad due to a BB-gun incident. His daughters Ethel and Dorothy worked in the garment industry in Nottingham. All are now deceased.