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I discovered only recently that Broxtowe Country Park is on the site of Broxtowe Colliery (1895-1925). The Tarmac entrance path from Nottingham Road is the line of the former colliery railway. When looking for information on the internet l came across an extract from Hansard in February 1972 when Kenneth Clarke MP (for it was he) asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether he would ask Nottingham City Council to cease all work of preparing the proposed refuse tip on the Broxtowe Colliery site.
Was there a tip on this site? There is a broad Tarmac turning circle and a bit further into the park some concrete hardstandings or building bases and herringbone pattern tiling, all of which is much too modern to be associated with the pit. What happened to the rubbish? Was the site levelled and covered with soil, creating the large area of grassland that exists today? When was the country park created? So many questions.....
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London Road, the building in the background being L H Woodhouse on Iremonger Road.
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I feel as though l have been left hopelessly behind. l don't even have a doorbell never mind a security camera and you would have to mind your Ps and Qs with Alexa otherwise who knows what might happen.
l also enjoyed Paul Robey more on the wireless but it was hard to see the pictures.
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I'm surprised there have been no comments on the ending of Paul Robey's show on Notts TV on Sunday, a reincarnation of his show on Radio Nottingham of course. (It could well be that l just can't locate them). IMHO as they say. Radio Nottm and Radio 2 seem to have the same playlist and play nothing recorded before about 1990, usually by shouty young women. Paul Robey seems to be busy with Boom Radio and Serendipity Radio but you seem to need a new-fangled type of radio to receive them. What on earth is a smart speaker?
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That must be the chap. He must have been trying to establish himself as a recording artist although both the title and Sherwood Records seem to have been expunged from all records.
ln reply to DJ360 it's probably worth nearer 6p than £6.
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Does anyone else have a copy of Nottingham City by Stuart Stevens on the Sherwood Records label? There is no date on the record label but l bought it in the late 60s or possibly 1970 from the remaindered and ex jukebox record stall on Newark market. l remember he assistant had bet his boss that somebody would buy one.
The B side is Don't Say Goodbye written by Stuart Stevens, so not the usual version.
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William Gash began carrying passengers between Elston and Newark in 1919 on Wednesdays and between Elston and Nottingham from 1921. on Saturdays. From 1928 the Newark service was extended back to start from Hawksworth. Here are Gash's timetable and faretable from 1 August 1933 and for comparison the timetable for the same service from about 1970.
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They must have moved from Orange Street to Muskham Street/ Bunbury Street rather than Arkwright Street as per my original info. Not a million miles away.
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Another item of socio-economic history we glean from Barton's 1964 timetable is the weekend express service between Corby and Glasgow. This allowed expatriate Scots to visit haim by travelling through Friday night, arriving in Glasgow on Saturday morning, with the return trip on Sunday night.
The association between Corby and Scotland began when Glasgow-based Stewarts & Lloyds constructed one of the UK's largest steelworks in Corby in the 1930s.
By the 1960s the steel works employed half the town, with thousands of people moving from Scotland to work after a downturn in the Clyde Valley's steel industry. However, in 1979 British Steel announced the plants were no longer financially viable and would close.
I think National Express now work the route but Bartons got there first!
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An excellent piece of detective work for such an obscure subject! I see that Butler Bros are still trading in Kirkby.
l have now read that Streets occupied part of the former horse tram sheds of Nottingham Corporation on Muskham Street
This is my ham-fisted attempt to scan photos of the 1926/27 Nottm Corporation Tramways examples of Street bodies.
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Thanks AfferGorritt. From your clues l have found 2 photos that were hiding in plain sight in John Banks' book The Prestige Series: Nottingham with photos by G H F Atkins, who took his first photograph of a Nottingham vehicle in 1927 and was still photographing them in the 2000s. Nottingham Corporation Tramways no. 49(TO 6096) was a 1927 Dennis with 26 seat front-entrance bodywork by Streets and no. 43(TO 4013) was a 1926 Dennis with 29 seat rear-entrance body.
l scanned the photos but they are larger than the max permitted file size.
l wonder who took the Crossley with Notts registration. My 1964 Barton fleet list has some buses dating back to 1942 but no Crossleys or Street bodies.
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A bit late to reply to Oztalgian but NCT have several spare buses in a silver livery with multicoloured swirl, so they should not cause confusion although l wonder whether people really notice the colour as long as the destination and route number are correct,
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At least that bus has the excuse of being built in 1937. WBUDC bought two Regents in 1947, just before railway nationalisation so they had the usual LMS Station on their blinds and were still showing that in the 1960s, 12 years after LMS ceased to exist.
Most people remember West Bridgford vehicles for their large route numbers which were 19 inches high on the older vehicles but only 16 inches high on later buses.
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Old bus timetables tell us a lot about the way we lived, especially the rise in levels of car ownership and changes in employment. My Midland General/Mansfield District timetable issued in May 1963 lists a dense network of 55 MGO services covering the Notts/Derbys border plus 35 Mansfield District services. In addition there are about 30 colliery services and about 30 works and school services serving firms like Aristoc, Meridian and lllingworths. The frequency of services is almost unbelievable compared with today, as is the lateness of last buses. In 1963 cinema-going was still a regular ritual for many people who needed a late bus home. Towns like Eastwood, Heanor and Alfreton still had cinemas.
Barton's timetable from March 1964 has a huge network of services, also often high frequency, from garages at Chilwell, Long Eaton, Calverton, Kegworth, Ilkeston, Melton Mowbray and Stanford. Works services included Ericcsons at Beeston, Celanese at Spondon, Stanton Ironworks, Mapperley Pit, Clifton Colliery and Chilwell C.O.D. Summer services connected Nottingham and Leicester with all main seaside resorts, all of which have declined with the popularity of package holidays.
Very little remains of the Barton and Midland General networks but that was 58 years ago, as long ago as 1963 was from 1905!
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l thought somebody might mention the ghosts in the store. For example there used to be a laundry at the very top of the building. For some reason there was a platform with no guard rails around it. Inevitably one day the washerwoman fell to her death. To this day if you stand where the laundry used to be you can feel a chill pass through you. That is the ghost of the washerwoman. Of course it might just be very cold on the roof of the store.
There used to be a very swanky restaurant where dances were held. If you are in the store very late at night when all is quiet, you can see a lady and gentlemen in evening clothes dancing across the floor. Perhaps somebody who worked in he store knows more details.
Incidentally the pediment over the central window on the first floor has some sort of ornamentation over it. Is it a coat of arms or just a decorative feature by the architect?
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l recently discovered that a coachbuilder Henry Street & Co was based in Nottingham. It began as a wheelwrights business but also built bus and coach bodies between 1925 and 1949. In the early 1930s it was at Orange Street but thereafter its premises were at Arkwright Street. The only reference l can find to a Street body is on an Albion single decker built for F.H.Doughty of Brimington, Chesterfield supposedly in 1950 but that contradicts the closure of the business in 1949! That bus was registered ORA 391 and later passed to Chesterfield Corporation Transport in 1959.
It would be interesting to know if anybody knows of any other vehicles Streets built. Any photos would be a bonus but unlikely given how long ago the business closed.
Broxtowe Country Park
in THE ESTATES - Aspley, Broxtowe, Bilborough, Cinderhill, Strelley and etc.
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Thanks for the information. The area hatched red on the DEFRA map coincides exactly with the open grassland on site so that must be land infilled by the rubbish tip.