Craig Strongman
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Very kind of you!
The ones referred to as selvedge are definitely different to the ones normally found in retail shops in the States though, when I was in Florida I went to many jeans outlets and they are all non selvedge seamed...... -
Ah, thanks, that explains it.
Presumably the 'PH' for Public House was the old Hearty Goodfellow and the Emprex Works was next to it.
My uncles father, Sir Albert Martin was the Martin part of Martin Emprex.
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Hi Guy
Before my time I'm afraid .........anyone else?
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This is a selvedge type seam.
Check the distinctive seam against " normal " Levi's.This type are generally a heavier weight denim too. -
I have an original Levi Denim Jacket from 1968!
Lucky you, mine fom 1966 was stolen from my mums washing line at the time it was looking really worn in!
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Trevor S,
The Levi 501's I mention at around the £200 mark are different to the ones sold in most retail outlets, for instance, here in Nottingham, John Lewis sell the " normal" ones at around £80.
The stupidly priced ones have what is referred to as a "selvedge seam", which involves two separate pieces of denim with a white edge and red stitching being sewn together to give them the very distinctive seam that is no longer available on regular Levi's.
In the absence of posting a pic, if you look at most of the characters in the film Grease, look at their turnups to see the difference.
Levi's claim they are much more expensive to make, hence the prices, and if you can be bothered, take a look on e bay at how much some of the original 501's from the 60's are fetching!
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I used to spend many an evening in there.I have got memories of a cafe near Mount st bus station possibly a wooden construction, it had a juke box and a pinball machine. This would be late sixties.
It was in my leather jacketed phase, not that I was anywhere near old enough to have a motor bike, in fact I was only 13 or 14.
I can recall The Beatles We Can Work It Out being played regularly on the juke box!
The place had more than its share of dubious Nottingham characters,including one guy called Fred Dawson I think, and his mate a tall lanky greaser called Slim, who when I started wearing mod clothes, he said he would rather kick my head in than a mods, because I couldn't make up my mind which I'd rather be....nice bloke eh!
Anyone else remember these two ?
PS, I recall my mum telling me it was owned by Councillor Churchill, his relatives living just up the road from where we used to live on Northgate New Basford.
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Urgent notice!
The option to edit my above post seems to have disappeared and I have put the . (Dot) in the wrong place!
It should read.....
www.solidgoldgem.am
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Well mine certainly shrank!Did sitting in the bath really do anything to shape a pair of '501s'?I still buy 501s,the label says "shrunk to fit", not shrink to fit.Maybe it was a sales gimmick, that we went along with,I never noticed any change in the jeans. My old mum thought I was 'crackers' sitting in a bath full of hot water,wearing a pair of new jeans.
And do you remember in their early stage, if you sat on anything pale, the blue dye transferred over?
I have recently bought some 501's with the red edged "selvedge" line that are stupidly priced now, around £200 and up, and they are nowhere near as good as the ones back then.
Speaking of which, I have quite a few pairs of " originals" and if anyone that is still fairly slim is interested, are for sale!
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Mudgie, pretty sure we're talking about the same suede boots from Wakefields, but weren't they called Fell boots?
There was a shop on Hyson Green called Stevensons where my Levi's came from. In fact I can remember my mum buying me a Levi's jacket from there with a Provident shopping cheque as times were hard.
The only things I got from Jeffs were a pair of " Lord John of Carnaby Street " hipsters, and a check shirt similar to what Stevie Winwood of the Spencer Davis group wore.
Those army and camping type places including Wakefields often had stuff for sale that was a mod necessity, I recall getting a pair of brogues there, as well as Desert and Fell boots, Big T by Tuf were also sold there.
The "look" of a suit jacket, Levi's and brogues was particularly popular back then
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Well, sort of.
If you were a listener to the original Gem AM, and were disappointed that the station that now carries part of its name is not playing what the original one did, be disappointed no more!
It's Internet only, just like this forum, so if you are reading this you can tune in!
The DJ line up has many of the originals, Andy Marriott ( Marrow). Len Groat, Krissi Carpenter, Paul Burbank, Mark Mason, and me, along with a few that weren't on the original station, but have years of experience on other stations near and far, Brian Savin for instance, who spent many years at BRMB in Birmingham.
You can find it via. Www.solidgold.gemam
Or via Tuneinradio.
Playing the great songs from the 50's 60's and 70's, and a few from the 80's thrown in as well, it's a station that's just right for most of the people here!
A quick history lesson here, you probably also remember Saga on 106.6 FM, well that was bought by a large group that called it Smooth, in line with the other stations in its group, and for a month or two it kept the presenters and music, but after that it dropped not only the Saga DJ's but also it's music policy.
So, if you loved the original Gem AM or Saga, you Will Love Solid Gold Gem AM!
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Ah!
Understood.
I can still hear her now........" Izes........Izes........tea and cawfee inside...."
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Yeah!! Root & Jenny Jackson, sure I went to see 'em, unless I just saw the poster!! Dungeon was one of the few places I could get in to, as it had no alcohol licence, Iwas gfoing there from age 15. Mainly for the dancing, just watchin' Mondo Kane was a revelation.....................
Mondo is a regular at the bi annual Motown And Soul discos that I do for Macmillan Cancer Care.
Not to mention Jan, and a few other Dungeon boys.
Next one is early November at The Polish Club Sherwood Rise.
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Loved their song " La De Da I Love You" ! Inez and Charlie's that is.Other appearances at the Dungeon, Charlie & Inez Foxx, Drifters (twice, both different line ups), Jimmy Cliff, and of course regular appearances by Mr Stringfellow
And you've reminded me I saw Jimmy Cliff there, it was at the time of his non Ska type song "Give And Take" I believe.........I say I believe as it was a long time ago, and there were other factors involved too! ;-)
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Sorry, can't play you " Wake me, shake me, " there's no such song!Nice to see you back posting Craig, I reckon half the members at the Dungeon were under age in those days.
One of the great soul labels back in the day was 'Stax', a rival to 'Motown', with such artists as Otis Redding,Sam and Dave,Carla Thomas,et' all.
We were spoiled for all the music and the clubs that were around at the time.
Sorry I'm not able to get to one of your 'Soul nights' Craig, but if you can play 'Wake me Shake me', I'll be there in spirit.
I could play you " Shake me, wake me" instead! Lol!
Many white acts were featured there too, my favourite being a band called The Action, Amen Corner went down well I recall too, and a brother and sister act from Jamaica I think, called Root and Jenny Jackson. Anyone remember them?
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I know this is an old topic, and I thought I'd already replied, but I remember on the occasions either my mum or grandad took me to Skegness always walking past the place, I thought she did it live though, a bit like a fair ground attraction person using a microphone, could be wrong though!
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Started going to Jeffs 1968, Levis straight leg button fly were under £2 I think? I'm pretty sure the standard denim
jacket was £3 10s, still had it up til acouple of years ago! Used the Jeffs on Hockley?It was on 3 levels I think.
501's were 52/6 in 1966, and the matching jacket was 63/- or 3 guineas as it was back then, so I doubt the jeans were under £2.
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@D2 is the old Admiral Duncan, a bit camp.
A bit???
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He used to frequent a place called Food For Thought in Nottingham during the 80's too.
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Should add that one of Wigan Casino's original DJ's also plays at The Westgates, Kev Roberts.
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Hi De Da Pete,
In Nottingham in the 60's were a number of clubs that played the music that became called Northern Soul years later.
The best in my opinion was The Dungeon, (thread elsewhere on this site)
It was a magical place for soul music, especially to someone like me, actually a few years younger than the legal age younhadbto be to get in!
Earlyish Motown, Atlantic, and other almost unheard of labels featuring the best soul music around was played, alongside many acts from the world of soul could be seen regularly, including Edwin Starr, The Spellbinders, Lee Dorsey to name a few.
A good number of DJ's would be inspired by the music there to become Northern spinners, and are still doing it today, myself included!
Incidentally, when you are in the area, can I suggest you search out the regular Soul Night at The Westgate Suites in Long Eaton for a great night of many kinds of soul, including Northern, Motown, and some slightly newer boogie stuff!
It's on the last Friday of the month, just a few minutes away from J25 of the M1.
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Bit late replying sorry, but yes, Dawn's brother.
Me too!
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Cheers Mick.
Btw, anyone remember the very camp Peter Martine? Dale used to know him, and I remember being shocked at hearing him use 4 letter words during his set!
Mind you, I was very young!
The ultra camp Miss Martine has recently been gigging in Nottingham @D2 Lower Parliament St.
Also, a number of the former NJD DJ's have been getting together for a couple of reunions of late, unfortunately, as one of the boys who is still gigging, I didn't make it!
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Made to measure " mod " suit from March the tailors, where Next is now on Long Row.
18 guineas, can't remember if the payments were 9 bob a week, or 18/-.....?
Jeff's fashion shops
in 70's Nottingham
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How can they be dungarees when they are just normal jeans? Dungarees by definition literally do have the bib and brace you mention.
These have the same seam as all my 501's bought through the 60's and 70's.
No shop has ever called them dungarees in the 40 + years I've been buying/ wearing them.