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Not many years later that fish trains stopped running everywhere.
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Forgot to mention in my last post (above) it wasn't the personality they wanted to see as much as her well known other attributes which were well in evidence that day.
Remember Carry On Nurse
She wasn't in that one. Perhaps Carry on Matron?
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For the 1980/81 season the programme had finally increased in size and as Notts needed to win this game against Watford on 25th April to ensure promotion to the First Division I went along to Meadow Lane (with only just over 10,000 others).
Unfortunately, the score was 2-1 to Watford.
What a shame.
However, Notts did win the next game 2-0 at Chelsea (how amazing that sounds nowadays) and their final game by the same scoreline at Cambridge to finish runners-up to West Ham.
Scorer for Notts in this match was Mark Goodwin, with Luther Blissett getting both of Watford's goals.
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You had to beat the clothes up with a "ponch".
In a dolly tub.
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Here's a view of one of the London Country Leyland Nationals that inaugurated the free city centre bus service.
It's of some slight interest in showing the Elite in the background, and I don't know if it can be made out, but the film showing is fairly typical of the Elite in its later years.
Photo must date from late 1972 or early 1973.
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Fond memories of watching this series re-run in the '60s. God bless him.
'Come away, come away with William Tell
Come away to the land he loved so well
I remember in my schooldays that was sung with a different second line which I couldn't possibly repeat here.
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Quite a few steam locomotive classes had at least one odd ball
9F 92250 chimney
Yes - a Giesl ejector. Bulleid Pacific 34064 also had one, so you could add that to the list
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#1908. We would have called that type of bloke "smarmy".
A word that could applied to more than quite a few politicians.
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#13 - I'm not sure the feminist lobby would accept that, Stephen!
'This comes of women interfering in politics'
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I certainly remember Bestie washing up at Dunstable but Wiki says he was there on loan in 1974 and never played a game?
The same source states the Jeff was there in 1974-5 scored 25 goals but doesn't give appearances.
According to the information supplied by Dunstable Town for the match programme when they visited Merthyr Town earlier this season:
'1973 saw Dunstable end the season bottom of Division 1 North. The young Barry Fry became manager, but the club finished bottom again. The club then had a new owner Keith Cheeseman, who had a lot of money, or so it seemed, and former West Brom and England striker Jeff Astle was bought in, along with George Best who played 3 games for the club. 1974/75 saw Dunstable promoted back to the Southern Premier, having scored 105 goals - 34 of them by Astle. However, after getting into serious debt with Cheeseman’s mis-dealings, the club was shut down in the 1975/76 season.'
The club history on Dunstable's website has an extra bit of information:
'George Best even gave the club £25 out of his own pocket to buy a new set of nets.
It was shortly after that Best agreed to sign for Dunstable in the pre-season of 1974-75.'
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Regarding the smoke deflectors, while the A3s had single chimneys there was apparently no great need for them. 'Humorist' in its time was a one-off, having been fitted with a double chimney in pre-war days and received the A2 style deflectors in 1947.
When double chimneys began to be fitted to the A3s en masse in the late 1950s smoke drifting was found to be a problem, and why A2 style plates weren't fitted isn't completely clear, but some sources say the German style plates were suggested by P. N. Townend, the shedmaster at King's Cross. In his book 'Top Shed', Townend doesn't actually say as much, but the following is of interest:
'Doncaster was urged [he doesn't say who by] to try the Deutsche Bundesbahn type of deflector, and a side view photograph of a DB 01 class Pacific taken a few months earlier in Cologne was submitted with the information that the German Railways obviously had faith in this type of deflector as many locomotives had been converted to it from the more usual type.'
He goes on to mention observations of passing trains hauled by 9Fs and A1s as well as A3s, and that the German type deflectors seemed to be doing a better job and '...also had the advantage of not obstructing the running plate or the front of the engine.'
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But otherwise OK, catfan?
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Reading the programme for that match in 1979, Shrewsbury also had Arthur Mann on their books at that time but he didn't feature that night.
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A visit to Meadow Lane on a Tuesday night in October 1979 to see Notts play Shrewsbury Town in Division II (now the Championship). Score was 5-2, with goals from Ray O'Brien(2),Ian McCulloch(2), Gordon Mair and Tristan Benjamin. Attendance was 7,251, with Notts in the top half of the division at the time.
Programme was still a microscopic size:
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Has anyone any idea of what remains of the original Flying Scotsman ... I guess it's like the old garden broom - ten new handles and twenty new heads, and still good as new.
That's a good point, and is true of just about all preserved locomotives and rolling stock - buses too.
There's a good article on the NRM website dealing with this question about Flying Scotsman:
http://blog.nrm.org.uk/how-much-flying-scotsman-original/
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To quote from that: 'How much of Flying Scotsman is original? Well, it mainly consists of the rear two thirds of the frames, part of the cab sides and some parts of the motion and possibly the driving wheel splashers.'
Usually, the frames of a steam locomotive are taken to be its 'identity', rather than the boiler, which is the most obvious part to look at.
I remember there was some controversy recently about whether Evening Star as it exists today is actually the engine that was the last built 9F. I think it was alleged that while the boiler may be that of 92220 the frames are those of a different engine.
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I was at High Pavement with David Iremonger (from 1961). I can never remember whether he said he was related to the footballer Albert Iremonger or not.
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A couple of us used to cycle after school from FFGS to the bridge south of Bulwell Common Stn, and wait for the 'Fast Fish ' from Grimsby to Banbury. It'd pass around 6.30 then home to plough through homework.
A chance of seeing a 'Brit' - at least it was in my time. It was Perry Road bridge for me, or on one occasion the bridge over Haydn Road.
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Brian Clough was a complete one-off genius. Are you suggesting that Fullarton might be in the same bracket?
No idea - just saying there's a precedent for this kind of 'gamble'. I could also cite Graham Taylor at Lincoln City. Sometimes this kind of appointment can pay off - more often it doesn't of course!
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Regarding 'Royal Scot', a reminder that its initial location after preservation was at Butlin's at Skegness where it spent several years. I remember it was visible from the road.
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He's just employed a guy who has never, ever managed a club before - that's what I call a gamble.
Isn't that what Hartlepools United did with Brian Clough?
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Incidentally, just been outside to watch the International Space Station pass right over my house, looked like a jewel in the sunrise.
I bet it didn't sound as good as the Scotsman.
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The 1 hour 30 min journey from St Pancras to Nottingham that my daughter travelled on was unusually quick. There must have been a very clear track ahead and maybe a station was missed out. The normal journey time is around 1 hour 40/45 minutes.
I see what appears to be the current fastest is one train that's scheduled to take 1 hour 34 minutes - the 2015 from St Pancras, arrives Nottingham at 2149 with stops at Market Harborough, Leicester and East Midlands Parkway.
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About 7 . 30 pm ex St Pancras.. 45742 Repulse I think.
Oh - just a one-off then? I thought you were referring to a regular timetabled service like Chulla was.
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Yes, but only 15 minutes faster than in 1962. Some progress!
You mean London to Nottingham in only 1 hour 45 minutes in 1962? Can you say what service that was?
Flying Scotsman in steam
in Owt' Abaaht Nowt !
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'Gordon' is currently on display at Highley on the Severn Valley Railway.