Merthyr Imp

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  1. #664 Mess - I have my doubts about it being a 33, although admittedly I only have two lists of route numbers available to me - in 1950 the 33 is shown as running between Aspley and the City Hospital (in which case it wouldn't have gone past the Theatre Royal), and in 1978 there was no route 33.

    Perhaps Stephen Ford can help with this?

    Of course the blinds may just happen to have been set to show 33 and it wasn't operating on a proper route at all, hence the sign in the windscreen and the lack of any destination on the indicator.

    The bus is standing more or less where the further car is in the photo shown here:

    http://nottstalgia.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=4578&page=2

  2. This photo of, I'm afraid, not very good quality is of interest in that it seems to show a double decker on the central area free bus service 88. It's not completely certain, as I can't make out what the sign in the left hand windscreen says, and although from the angle the route number could be 88 it also may be 33 (although route 33 didn't go along there and if it did the proper destination would have been displayed).

    I tend to think it was on the 88 as I don't know why else I would have taken the photograph (which I've forgotten doing!).

    I think the year was 1972.

    It's also of interest in showing something of the side view of the Theatre Royal across the car park where the Empire used to be, with the fire escape on the dressing rooms area.

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  3. Prince Charles and Camilla don't seem to have the love of a lot of the people. They seem to dislike Prince Charles and Camilla for having an affair during his marriage to Princess Diana.

    Didn't Diana have an affair too? According to my wife, Prince Harry is not Prince Charles's son - she points to the lack of resemblance to his brother as support for this theory.

    As far as lack of familial resemblance goes one might also mention Prince Andrew - but that's a different set of gossip...

  4. According to information on this website: http://www.britroyals.com/faqs.htm

    'Royals who are divorced or marry divorcees do not lose their position in the line of succession.'

    In the case of Edward VIII:

    'When George V died Prime Minister Baldwin made it clear that the Government, popular opinion in the country and the oversees Dominions (now the Commonwealth nations) did not approve of his plans to marry Wallis. Social attitudes towards divorce and a woman looking for a third marriage were considered scandalous at the time, and if Edward married against the advice of his Ministers it would have caused the Government to resign and a constitutional crisis. Edward chose to abdicate.'

    So it wasn't a case of his marriage to a divorcee making it illegal for him to remain King.

    With regard to 'Queen Camilla', it was announced at the time of their marriage:

    'It is intended that Mrs Parker Bowles should use the title HRH The Princess Consort when The Prince of Wales accedes to The Throne'

    http://www.princeofwales.gov.uk/media/press-releases/announcement-of-the-marriage-of-hrh-the-prince-of-wales-and-mrs-camilla-parker

  5. The first ever day of Sunday football attracted me to the City Ground on 6th January 1974. Due to the energy crisis resulting from trouble in the Middle East (this pre-dated the miners' strike that started the following month) there were restrictions on the use of electricity. Firstly, floodlights could not be used, with the example of this game kicking off at 2pm. It was then considered that staging games on Sundays instead of Saturdays would ensure a more guaranteed supply of electricity for the general running of the ground.

    League games followed a couple of weeks later, but on 6th January four FA Cup ties became the first games involving Football League clubs to be played on a Sunday. As with other things in football Forest were one of the pioneers.

    A complication was that at that time it was illegal to charge admission to matches on a Sunday. The way around that was to restrict it to admission on production of a team sheet - and they cost the normal admission price. In practice, that meant you just paid at the turnstile in the normal way and were given a team sheet as you went in.

    The team sheet was just a slip of paper as seen here:

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    For the record, Forest beat their Third Division visitors 4-3 with two of the goals coming from Neil Martin. Changes from the team sheet were Bob Chapman in place of Paul Richardson and Miah Dennehy as sub instead of Tommy Jackson. Manager at the time was Allan Brown.

    The attendance was over 23,000, which was more or less double the usual for that season to date, so the novelty value must have been a factor.

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  6. April 1973, and Forest were now in the Second Division (as now). I went along to see them lose 1-3 to Middlesbrough. With both teams in mid-table and close to the end of the season the attendance was only 9,258 which is possibly the lowest ever I saw for a Forest match.

    Manager at the time was Dave Mackay. Scorer was Duncan McKenzie with only his 5th goal of the season in 24 appearances. Leading scorer at the time was John Galley with 8 from 21 games.

    The Middlesbrough side included Nobby Stiles and ex-Mansfield centre half Stuart Boam.

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  7. I think they were wherever the tramlines veered in towards the kerb, possible due to the lines being laid in the days before increased road traffic meant this could become a problem.

    I imagine modern day tramlines are aligned from the start in such a way that the problem doesn't arise.

  8. I went along to Meadow Lane for this FA Cup Second Round tie in December 1972. Notts won 2-1 with goals from Kevin Randall and Les Bradd in front of an attendance of 6,613 - not bad as they were just above the Third Division relegation zone at the time, although of course they went on to win promotion that season.

    Lancaster City are quite lowly placed these days, in the Northern Premier League Division One (North), but back in the pre-Conference days of 1972 they were competing at just one level below the Football League.

    Notts had finally modernised their programme design:

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    A couple of advertisement pages are of nostalgic interest. Just £1.65 to eat at The Carvery!

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    And just look at the latest fashions:

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    (Sorry - should have put this in the 'Football Days' thread)

  9. The shop counter was definitely in place by 1967 as that's when my mother was working there. On a Thursday after going to Arnold & Carlton College on day release I would get a bus into town and go to Lyons for a pie & chips before going in to work in the afternoon.

    I don't remember the days of a commissionaire or waitresses as mentioned in earlier postings - only it ever being self-service in my time of visiting it, which was from 1959 onwards. No doubt the era of waitresses had gone by then. My earliest memories of the place - as I say, from 1959, or possibly the year before - were of going there with my mother on occasional shopping trips to Nottingham in the days when we lived in Lincolnshire. I always had a sausage roll and a ring doughnut - I think the sausage rolls were standard Pork Farms ones, which were different to what Curtis's in Lincoln used to do, so they were a novelty - and I used to love the doughnuts!

    Can anyone remember when it closed? Must have been some time in the early 1970s.

    I can remember Lyons corner houses in London - although, again, they were self-service in my time - and going in one on the corner of Piccadilly. It must have been in the early to mid-1970s when the remaining ones were rebranded as 'Jolyon' restaurants (Joe Lyons - get it?). I remember one on New Street in Birmingham, and the last one I ever remember seeing was opposite Charing Cross station in London. I would think they must have all gone by sometime in the 1980s.

  10. Going through the door of Lyons you first came to the shop counter, which is where my mother worked for a time in the late 1960s. Then you went up a short flight of steps, and as stated it was a long and narrow area where all the tables and chairs were. You could either walk through the middle of that area, or go along a sort of walkway on the left separated off by a low sort of partition - I assume this was to assist with queuing, as at the end of it was the start of the self-service counter area which continued along the left. You went through that, selecting your food and paying then found a place to sit - which could be anywhere back down the length of the place as far as the initial flight of steps (I don't recall any other steps).

    That, at any rate, is how I remember it, going back to the late 1950s - I only remember it as self-service from that time onwards.