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The book I mentioned before gives the following relevant details for 'The Password is Courage': -
The munitions train is hauled by a Fowler 2-6-4T (possible 42325). The scene with some wagons destroyed was filmed at Scratchwood sidings, Mill Hill (between Hendon and Elstree).
The scenes where Dirk Bogarde was sent to work in a depot and yard were filmed at Cricklewood.
The train sabotaged by Bogarde was also filmed at Scratchwood and used 42325 (which was already withdrawn, but in steam) and 'rumour has it that the loco was cut up on site after filming was completed'.
When Bogarde boards a train in an attempt to escape the scene was filmed at Radlett. The arrival scenes were filmed at Brighton.
So all these locations, except Brighton, were pretty handy for Elstree. I don't think I've ever seen the film, so will have to watch out for it.
Re 'The Love Match', according to this same book, the earlier shed scenes at least were filmed at Newton Heath shed.
The scene where they stop the engine on the line at the top of the banking behind the goal at the football ground was of course at Burnden Park, Bolton. By the time of my only visit there in the mid-1980s that line was long closed - as is the ground too, now, of course.
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The Railroad Comes Through the Middle of the House
I think Rosemary Clooney's version was the one Uncle Mac always used to play.
Rock Island Line by Lonnie Donegan.
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'Legend has it that Paul Simon wrote 'Homeward Bound' on Carnforth Station, the Essex version of the story is that he wrote it at Brentwood station when he was performing and staying at the Railway Inn there. I've heard other stories that he wrote it at Clapham Junction or even Blackburn, does anybody have any other theories. '
Although there seems to be some debate about this, it seems generally accepted that it was Widnes station between Liverpool and Manchester. There is a plaque on the station commemorating it.Here's one of many references; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homeward_Bound_(song)
By the way, I can't seem to get the usual 'quote' function to work when replying to postings.
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There's a good book on this subject - 'Horton's Guide to Britain's Railways in Feature Films' by Glyn Horton, published by Silver Link in 2007.
Of a couple of films mentioned above, it says of 'The War Lover' it was filmed with B1 no. 61378 and that some attempt was made to give the loco a 1940 look, with NE on the tender and the 6 removed from the cabside number.
'Sons and Lovers' - it says 'Bestwood' station in the film is Longmoor Down on the Longmoor Military Railway (see the St Trinian's film mentioned above). It says some other scenes were actually filmed in Nottinghamshire, with a distant view of a colliery, and night scenes filmed at Weekday Cross junction, with a passing local hauled by a J6.
THE classic train film is the Will Hay comedy 'Oh Mr Porter'! Another good one is 'The Love Match' with Arthur Askey - railways and football- what more could you want!
Also I'd mention 'Train of Events', which has some good sequences with Jack Warner as the engine driver. Apparently he fell into a turntable pit while filming and was troubled by the back injury he suffered for the rest of his life.
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In 1957 there would only have been the Light Programme, the Home Service and the Third Programme. No local radio then!
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Well, as far as I can remember it was the three TV channels of those days (BBC1, BBC2 & ITV), Radio 1, 2 & 4 (I assume Radio 3 as well but never used to listen to it) plus Radio Nottingham.
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The early 1960s was waking up to frost on the inside of the bedroom window. Now it's central heating.
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In 'The Story of the Nottingham Suburban Railway Volume 2' by David G. Birch there's a photo of a Sentinel railcar, no. 45 'Commerce' at Victoria station '...about to depart in a southerly direction...in 1931 probably to travel over [the Suburban Railway] on its way to Daybrook station and Shirebrook.' It mentions the livery as green and cream.
Can't tell if this is the same one as in the photo above, but the one in the book isn't towing a trailer car.
According to the text, by July 1931 there was one remaining through passenger service over the Suburban Railway - the 5.05pm to Shirebrook (calling at Daybrook at 5.18pm) but that ceased after 14th September that year.
Of course the photo above may not be of a Suburban line service. This book indicates that there were five Sentinel steam railcars based at Colwick by 1925.
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In those days I think it would have been the 6.20pm service rather than the 18:20!
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Pearce - out!
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Some good stuff there. If I remember right the programme about India features the remains of the steam monorail they used to have.
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I also remember a couple of school trips to the old Playhouse. One was to see an adaptation of 'Oliver Twist' (note - NOT the musical 'Oliver!') and the actor playing Fagin later visited the school (Blue Bell Hill) to give a talk to the class. No idea if he was anyone famous or not.
The other trip was to see 'Maria Marten or The Murder in the Red Barn'. Again, no idea who was in it as I didn't bother with programmes in those days.
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When we lived up Blue Bell Hill Road we would climb up onto the bridge parapet at the corner where Union Road met York Road at Victoria Station. Only about 6 feet up on the street side, but a 40 or so foot drop to rail level on the other!
When we moved to Sherwood, for me it would be the Rat Hole during school lunch times or Perry Road bridge in the evenings.
All these were in walking distance, which I is why I hardly ever went to the Midland - too far away.
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I remember the Harry Roberts song from Forest matches at the time of his trial, if there was trouble in the crowd and the police piled in, the fans would sing it then, a monotonous ditty to the tune of the Hallelujah Chorus, Bilbraborn used to sing it all the time!!!!!
The version at Sincil Bank was to the tune of 'London Bridge is Falling Down'
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I hadn't realised Roberts was still alive. I still remember his featuring in the songs sung by hooligans at football matches (well, at Lincoln anyway). I won't repeat it here, although no swear words were involved.
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Percy Andrew was down Jennison Street off Main Street. I don't suppose the big chimney is still there with the name Andrew on it.
By the way, if I remember correctly the company was named after two people - a Mr Percy and a Mr Andrew.
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Wasn't there also the Bulwell Finishing Company? Can't remember what road they were on.
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The following is from a book I've quoted from several times before on this Forum and is well worth getting if you can find a copy - 'Rail Centres - Nottingham' by Michael A. Vanns, first published by Ian Allan in 1993.
'...the environmental cost of the site and the route of the GC through Nottingham had been the demolition of 1,300 mainly slum houses, St. Stephen's church and schools the 1840 Union Workhouse, the Guildhall, the ragged school, at least 24 public houses, and six years of disruption. It was a fact that 125 new houses were erected around Woodborough Road and 175 in the Meadows area...but as 'The Nottingham Daily Guardian' recorded at the opening of Victoria station: '...scarcely any of these houses has been occupied by the people who were dispossessed of their old dwellings, the rents of the new cottages being at least double those of the old.''
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Very flat, Norfolk.
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On this separate topic, I'm trying to think of a religion without a god of some sort.
Football.
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What is with all this triangular passing just outside the box? Yes okay do it to go past a defender and then progress forwards towards the goal but for goodness sake don't keep doing it to try and demonstrate your 'skills'.
I assumed they kept trying it because they had been instructed to play that way. As we saw, it was a waste of time against a massed defence.
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Dumped at Loughborough, probably 1966:-
I wonder what happened to the impressive nameplate.
The Falcon was later bought by British Rail and numbered 1200 in the standard blue livery. I remember seeing it at Severn Tunnel Junction in 1974 or 75. There's some interesting details here about the nameplates:
http://www.railblue.com/Class%20Headers/class_53_brush_prototype_no.htm
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That's a shame - I saw the heading of this thread and thought it was another one about trainspotting:
http://www.nrm.org.uk/PlanaVisit/oldevents/shildon_tornado.aspx
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The original paint job for the deltic was lovely, light blue with chevron design on the front. What on earth made them paint them green and put a big yellow snout on them?
The prototype Deltic was in the manufacturer's livery as it was owned by them. The production Deltics were in the standard British Railways livery which shortly included the standard yellow warning panel. BR tended not to stray too often from their standard livery - even the narrow gauge steam engines on the Vale of Rheidol were painted 'rail blue' when that colour scheme was introduced. The rail blue and full yellow nose end didn't suit the Deltics as much as the two-tone green had done.
Railways featured in films and music
in Owt' Abaaht Nowt !
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Surely it was Neasden shed for the Marylebone main line.