Merthyr Imp
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I don't believe there are any in the Nottingham/Derby area any more.
There are of course still the electric class 91s on the East Coast main line, and as you say, there are the electrically-hauled trains out of Liverpool Street to Norwich, etc, but without checking I think the only other locomotive haulage is on the Chiltern Railways services out of Marylebone to Birmingham Moor Street, and some of Arriva Trains Wales services between North and South Wales via Shrewsbury and Hereford.
Both of the above being operated by class 67s.
A year or two ago First Great Western were using class 57s or 67s on summer services to Paignton and Taunton from Cardiff, but I'm not sure if they still do,
There are also still sleeper services of course. I think First Great Western still use class 57s on theirs.
You could count HSTs as an engine at each end!
But after the introduction of the HSTs, what did for a lot of locomotive haulage was the influx of Sprinters, starting with class 150/2s on the Trans-Pennine services, and then even more so with 156s (e.g. Birmingham - Norwich) and the 158s. Then of course we had the Voyagers eliminating locomotives on the Cross-Country services (e.g. Newcastle - Plymouth, etc, etc)
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I don't think that the original Harwich Boat trains via Lincoln went through Peterborough, I'm sure they used the Sleaford, Spalding, March, direct route that should never have been closed
That's true, yes - I was forgetting.
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At the end of August/beginning of September in 1964 my mother and I went for a short holiday in Great Yarmouth. On the day we returned home she commented that it was 25 years to the day since she and my father had been returning from a holiday in Yarmouth at the time World War 2 started.
Now that seemed like ancient history to me, but the point of the story is that 25 years ago from NOW - i.e. 1989 - seems like only yesterday. It brings home the fact that to the parents of our generation the war was so recent to them.
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I've still got a BR timetable for 1974/75, and at that time the Harwich-bound train left Manchester Piccadilly at 1515, Sheffield at 1623 and Nottingham 1723. Then it was due in Grantham at 1757, Peterborough 1820, March 1858 and eventually arrived at Harwich at 2106.
It would likely have been either platform 1 or 3 at Nottingham but I can't remember for sure.
Northbound, it left Harwich at 0728, departing Grantham at 1026 to arrive in Nottingham at 1100. As far as I remember it always used platform 4. It departed Nottm at 1102 for Sheffield, arriving in Manchester at 1317.
I think timings did tend to vary over the years, but were always within about 15 minutes either way of those times.
Of course the boat train had only started running via Nottingham a few years previously. I'm open to correction here, but I think it was the closure of the electrified former Great Central Woodhead route from Manchester to Sheffield Victoria in 1970 that caused the train to be re-routed through Nottingham. Certainly it had previously run from Sheffield to Lincoln and down the Great Northern/Great Eastern Joint Line through Sleaford to get to Peterborough. It used to be one of the main trains of the day at Lincoln Central when I was trainspotting there in the early 1960s.
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But who was Kilroy?
He's not been here, has he?
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The route BulwellBrian mentions is the original Midland Railway line to the south which ran from Leicester via Wigston to Rugby where it joined the main line to Euston.
The London & North Western Railway route mentioned joined the later Midland Main line at Market Harborough, and trains from Peterborough ran that way - also the services from Nottingham London Road via the Joint Line. After Market Harborough there was a junction, one line leading to Rugby, which closed in 1966, and one to Northampton, the latter only finally closing in 1981.
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If you weren't very happy about something, and said 'it's not fair!' Mam would say, and it's not Wakes, either.
Now that's different to what my dad used to say;
'It's not fair!'
'Well, it's not raining.'
And now I'm able to annoy my own son in similar fashion.
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It was the Mechanics Cinema in my day.
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I have the body of an eighteen year old,
I keep it in the fridge.....................................Spike Milligan
Reminiscent of something first written, I think, in the early 1950s by Robert Bloch (author of 'Psycho' and other horror stories):
'Despite my ghoulish reputation, I really have the heart of a small boy. I keep it in a jar on my desk.'
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I think it's just shown as that to indicate it was the Ambergate company's station. When first opened the station was simply called 'Nottingham' before they added 'London Road' to the name.
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Thanks Merthyr Imp. That diagram does fit in neatly with the 1860 photo.
Of course it could very well be that diagram was drawn up with reference to the 1860s photo! My guess is that it was only produced for the book.
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Looking at that again, I think the arrows 'To Lincoln' and 'To Grantham' are on the wrong lines.
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There's this diagram rather than actual plan or map in the same book by J. P. Wilson:
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I thought that old photo of the 1860s looked familiar, and I overcame my afore-mentioned laziness enough to track it down in the small book: 'The Development of Nottingham's Railways' by J. P. Wilson:-
http://www.transportstore.com/book.cfm/3410/56/The_Development_of_Nottinghams_Railways_WILSON_JP
I'm guessing that's the book Cliff Ton is giving some details from in his postings?
Some further items of relevant interest from that book, some of which have already been mentioned:
'[in 1862] the Midland Railway were making preparations for a proposed viaduct over the Queens Road level crossing [i.e. a road viaduct] but powers were not obtained until 1866...It was finally completed about September 1869.'
'The completion of the viaduct coincided with other alterations and improvements at the station....The viaduct altered the relative levels of the road and adjacent buildings. The Victoria Hotel (later renamed the Bentinck Hotel) at the corner of Station Street, was elevated by another floor with a new entrance on the former first floor. A similar reconstruction took place at the Queen's Hotel at the corner of Queen's Walk and Arkwright Street. Evidence of this can be seen to this day.'
'The old station...was demolished in 1875 and replaced by a new building which served as the goods offices for many years and still stands. The gate pillars leading to the yard would appear to be part of the original station, although the capping stones have been damaged and replaced by bricks.'
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It's stated in several books (which I'm too lazy to find one to quote in particular) that the gate posts in Cliff Ton's post are all that's left of the original station.
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Why do they call this a 'near miss'? Surely it was a 'miss' or a 'near hit'
It's a miss that was near. In other words it only just missed.
It would be more correct to say nearly a hit rather than a near hit.
I was taught English by someone who was once joint winner of the Booker Prize so I ought to know what I'm talking about (even if I don't).
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I always find the Italian national anthem quite a catchy tune, and the way it starts off with a sort of fanfare then goes off into a different tune altogether.
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I think there was a cinema on Market street, that showed risqué films in the 70'
Yes - that's what I and LizzieM referred to as the Scala. It was the Classic in the 1970s. And before that, before anyone else queries it, it also had a spell as a News and Cartoon cinema in the mid-60s.
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Is the Elite still in use as a cinema then or is it used for something else. For some reason we tended to go to the Odeon more than anywhere else, what happened to that?
I should have said in my earlier post, the only building remaining is the Elite. It closed as a cinema many years ago (40 or so?) - not sure what the building is used for now.
All the other city centre cinemas have been demolished and replacement buildings put up - Odeon, ABC, Gaumont, Scala, Mechanics, Moulin Rouge, and the News & Cartoon cinema near the Co-op. Have I missed any out?
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A sobering thought that, if we discount the one on Long Row (which I venture to say none of us remembers as a cinema), out of all those in the city centre - and there were several - the only one remaining is the Elite.
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That must be in 1965 or early 1966 as we see an AEC Renown as well as the trolleybuses.
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When you’re in the Old Market Square, look up at the architecture above Ladbrookes on Long Row and you will see the façade (which is grade II listed) of the 600 seat "Picture House" cinema that opened 1912 and closed in 1921. It never converted to sound.
Is that what used to be Lyons restaurant?
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Britain's first ever bus conductress is said to have been Kate Barton in 1909.
And of course her father claimed to have been the real inventor of what later became known as the Diesel engine.
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Is that the one that brought down the Lincoln Cathedral spire, at the time making it the tallest building in the known world.
Apparently not. According to this site the spire wasn't built until 1311 and collapsed (not due to an earthquake) in 1548. However, a previous version of the cathedral was destroyed in an earthquake in 1185:
http://thelincolnite.co.uk/2013/11/when-lincoln-cathedral-was-the-tallest-building-in-the-world/
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That's what I remember.