Bilboro-lad
-
Content Count
897 -
Joined
-
Last visited
-
Days Won
2
Content Type
Profiles
Forums
Calendar
Posts posted by Bilboro-lad
-
-
Did you read the link? I guess not or you wouldn't be shouting at me.
My opinion is that there has been a sea change in the way PSA is viewed by the medical profession.
Research has shown that random screening isn't good, and no-longer recommends it.
I will choose to wait and see if I get symptoms. If I do then I will watch for changes in my prostate as suggested by urologists.
Remember only one in forty people actually die OF prostate cancer. The rest die WITH it.
The other thirty nine must get something else quite serious if they end up in the morgue.
Stop obsessing about just one ailment. The odds are it won't be the one that kills you, me or Stan.
-
Yes I remember that track. It occurred to me the other day that there were all sorts of hills and stuff like a BMX track because when they built the estate they bulldozed everything to the side in big piles - then left it for a few years and it all became overgrown again. It was only removed when they started building the factories in the early sixties. There was another similar sort of place the other side of the allotments up near Burnside Rd.
It was a great place to grow up. Can you remember when you went over the old canal bridge towards Wollaton Hall that the road had big ruts in from the rain? If you got your wheel stuck in one you were sure to end up in a heap. David Booker used to ride down them on purpose and never fell off.
-
Good idea. Use Google instead.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/05/03/urologists-psa-screening/2130971/
-
...and the rest of the world is wrong? You've got Goggle haven't you?
He can't be a health professional because the view of health professionals is changing big time.
-
Mr Charlesworth. What qualification do you have that can authoritatively overrule the whole medical opinion of the whole world and say that you are right and they are wrong? Jus' wonderin'.
-
It's you that's talking drivel. I follow the health advice that the world agrees with.
Did you read the link I gave you? Or the one before? You are like a religious zealot. Nothing on this earth will change your mind for the simple reason you don't want it to.
If the health agencies of the world can't change your mind - then I'm hardly likely to am I?
Nothin on this planet will change your mind. Your mind is set in Araldite.
-
Cancer Research Uk in Cambridge (against random testing) are working on a genetic test that will predict aggressive cancers from benign. Do a google. That is the future, not leaving a trail of unnecessary suffering and damage to people that never had a problem.
The barbarity of the old regime is (thankfully) on the way out.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/10457329/Test-for-aggressive-prostate-cancer.html
-
Yes Bilbraborn. If you were ever at Catchpoles messing with bikes outside his back door I would definitely have seen you. I used to pass by on the way to David Bookers. Booker was a brilliant bike rider, his dad even taught him to ride it backwards. I remember he got a job at Weller down the road, but have found nothing on him since. Katrina Long was very dark with black curly hair like a gypsy. She was an adopted child, very athletic. Dunno where she went either. Arthur Booker was best mate to one of my brothers. There was an older brother named John but he was a right poe faced character. Never saw him smile. Me and Booker used to go to Wollaton Hall a lot and ride in the shallow part of the lake (the sandy bit).
-
It's not my argument. It is the argument of every major healthcare provider across the world inc Australia, Canada, Usa, NZ, the whole of Europe. etc
All you have done is look at your own situation (which isn't what we are talking about). You had symptoms.
-
I've got brothers that have lived in Australia since Buddy Holly was alive - and they still hate the summer over there. You can always put a jumper on when it's cold, but can't keep taking them off when its hot.
-
No. It's the NHS telling ME that PSA testing of the populace is WRONG. It's the NHS guidelines - not me telling you. Your case was different. You are not on the same hymn sheet.
-
Peter Catchpole did have blond hair. I think there was an older sister called Carol. The catchpoles were never snobbish. Mrs Catchpole had severe diabetes. I remember the Prenderghasts on the corner of Bramerton Road. Their dad was a copper. the Bookers lived on the corner of Glaisdale Drive. I was at primary school with David Booker but got on well with his elder brother - Arthur. I remember being fascinated by the Bedford van their dad drove.
Also on Staverton Rd at the Glaisdale Drive end - Katrina Long and Phillip Day.
Well now you are talking about people I know. Shaun Prendergast was my best ever childhood friend. From babies until the age of 13 we were inseparable. At 13 I left to live in Colwick. I saw him once when I was 15 and we never met again. Sadly he died a couple of years ago, David Booker was another of my best mates. He was great fun. Katrina Long used to 'find' money and buy us all fags and chocolate. Don't think I know Philip Day though.
-
It's YOU that's head in the sand. Anyone over 50 here can ask for a PSA test - it's just that the GPs here don't get kickbacks like the aussie GPs do so they advise against it.
The Australian government are against random PSA testing - and so is the largest cancer charity is Australia.
Can you tell me Stan - just where did you get your information from? Who sold you on the rapidly dwindling pathway of annual testing?
http://www.kaiserhealthnews.org/stories/2013/june/02/psa-test-guidelines-prostate-cancer.aspx
It's going out of fashion mate. Sooner or later your GP will be forced to tell you the truth.
-
Yes I saw that. It seems the port and the ship name are totally separate from each other.
-
Show me one national care provider such as the NHS that agree with you. Just one will do. Universally the random testing for PSA is dismissed totally and completely. Don't get duped. Follow the health guidelines of the WORLD. Don't just put money in the pockets of the medical cartels.
-
You can't sue for misdiagnosis as they tell you beforehand that it isn't accurate.
Two out of three with raised PSA WON'T have prostate cancer.
One out of seven that have a biopsy that comes back normal WILL have prostate cancer.
So then what do you do?
Do you assume that the PSA was wrong - or the biopsy is wrong?
With Russian Roulette you have a one in six chance of things going awfully wrong.
With a biopsy you have a one in seven chance of things going wrong.
So what do you do? Remove a perfectly good prostate? Live in fear?
-
So what was the part of the boat named after?
-
On the subject of Hull, I've often tried to find the answer to a question I dreamed up but never have.
The question is:
Was the town of Hull named after the boat part because they were made there?
Or was the boat part named after the town of Hull because that is where they were made?
Yeah I know it's a city now.
Anyone know?
-
Wigman Rd Bilborough. I was in 1st year at Bilborough Grammar School. just been to a Christmas Fair and it was on the news.
By the way Bilboro-lad, Did you know the Catchpoles? They lived at number 8 Staverton Rd. Peter would have been nearer your age. Robert was in my year and we often cycled to and from school together. a great mate. Would love to know what he's doing now.
I remember the name but they never had anything to do with us common folk that didn't go to grammar school.
I knew a Richard Copestake and a Paul Biney that went to grammar school. Copestake was my age and lived at the bottom of Bramerton Road and Biney lived in that big white house just over the old coach road train bridge.
I think Catchpole lived at the house with the big high hedge.
-
Well tell me why every national health care provider in every country in the world thinks you are wrong?
GPs make money by pushing screening. They should be FORCED to give the best medical advice, not the best advice to make themselves wealthy.
However, what we are talking about is the screening of "Asymptomatic patients". Ordinary people off the street with no hint of prostate problems. We aren't just talking about YOU. You were a prime candidate for testing. Your brother had prostate cancer, you were losing weight, you were tired and probably peeing all night. We aren't talking about YOUR case. We are talking about the average joe that HAS NO SYMPTOMS.
If you think I'm wrong - show me a website from a reputable healthcare provider that thinks it's a good idea.
-
Well they say that everyone can remember where they were on the day that JFK was assassinated. It's coming up top fifty years (on 22nd). So what do you remember of the day?
Well the first that I knew of it (I was ten) was when we came back from my dad's shop on Alfreton Road.
I must have caught the bus from Glenbrook juniors over to the shop. Number 13.
Anyway, we came home in my dads van at about five thirty, and my mum was cooking the tea in the kitchen.
My dad was lighting the fire and me and my younger sibling were getting ready to watch a TV show - I'm pretty sure it was "I love Lucy". Anyway, while we were waiting a news flash came on showing pictures of the JFK shooting. Obviously my dad was immediately transfixed and called my mum in to watch.
I remember he kept on saying, "There's going to be a war. There has to be. It must have been the Russians".
So where were you on that day?
I was at 16 Staverton Road, Bilborough and heard about it at about 6pm.
-
This is one bit I've never understood. If someone remarries and they meet in an afterlife - are they bigamous? Which wife do you spend eternity with?
-
2
-
-
A question for Stan.
Sooner or later the likelihood is that you will get a PSA test with raised levels. What will you do if or when that happens? Let's assume for arguments sake your last test showed raided levels. What would you do next?
Statistically there is a one-in-three chance that you have prostate cancer.
Statistically if your results come back as 'normal', there is still a one-in-seven chance that you have prostate cancer that doesn't show up in the tests.
Not very accurate is it?
So what are you going to do Stan?
Will you demand a biopsy (like you are demanding a PSA test?). Do you understand the risks? (Not to mention the discomfort)
Do you realise that a biopsy may leave you permanently incontinent, or with erectile dysfunction, or give you an infection?
-
Yes. It makes a change not to hear about those who have been duped by biological testing labs into believing they have immortality by catching cancer early. It's crazy man. It's immoral and should be illegal. Any GP that goes against national guidelines just to make a commision should be struck off. Find yourself a new GP if they try to get you to be tested when you have no symptoms - and report them to the relevant medical authorities.
summut serious
in Owt' Abaaht Nowt !
Posted
Yes 40 million = 1 million deaths, but it also means 39 million died of something else.
I'm not afraid of cancer. There is no cancer in my family on either side. Add to that, the average time PC takes to kill someone is 17 years.
I'll be 77 by then. I'll take my chances. Some people can't bear to know they have a cancer living inside them and even commit suicide or have drastic surgery. Cancer cells are your own cells. They are a part of you. It's not like some kind of alien invasion.
I'll watch and wait and hope for the best.