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Posts posted by Bilboro-lad
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It doesn't matter how slowly you read it - medical opinion is against PSA testing per se due to its unreliability and the side effects of biopsies.
It's not ME you have to convince but the medical establishments across the world.
So get over it eh guys? Stop preaching. Then again I guess you know best eh? What a pity that medical research around the world is so stupid.
You remind me of those people that are pro smoking because their granny smoked and lived to be 95.
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Well if you are not an expert on anything stop disregarding information given by experts all over the world. As far as the drugs thing goes, I quoted an oft repeated idiom: Sex, drugs, rock and roll. It refers to a lifestyle. I have never injected any substance or touched hard drugs. As a matter of interest, smoking cigarettes kills more people than all the illegal drugs combined and multiplied by ten. The difference between you and me in regard to PSA testing is that I am happy to change my mind when the combined medical opinion of the world changes. You are not. You've made up your mind and that's all there is to it. It's called 'dogma' and it isn't healthy.
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Anyone that says the whole of the medical profession is wrong and they are right isn't really an authority on the subject are they?
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I was 17 at the time. Judge me on my current age (60).
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Well what's that certain age then? And how many die at that certain age? If you think the medical establishment is wrong - then write to your MP.
So your husband and his brother have taken into account the false positive PSA test? The false negative biopsy results? The side effects of biopsy such as infection and impotence? Dismissed the entire medical profession's opinion? And then calls everyone STUPID that follows medical advice? Well he must be some clever fella, I can see why you married him.
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We used to climb up the sarcophagus coal loader. Pretty high up too.
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Oh yeah I remember people on the outside edge, hands in pockets and leaning forward to offset gravity. Being tall I could never do that as I felt like I was going to fly off backwards. The guy that ran the ride used to sit in the middle.
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Yes. Since Facebook has been around I've found that quite a few never did live to tell the tale.
When I gt around to it, that will be part two of the book I'm writing. Part one is the days in Bilbra and Colwick.
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But it was simply bad luck in your case. If checking the entire population were a good idea like bowel cancer or breast screening it would be done.
Just because someone wins the lottery every week it doesn't follow that we all will if we start to play.
Current medical advice is that PSA testing for the population at large is NOT a good idea. Write to the Minister for Health if you think that it is.
Biopsies have side effects and are not overly accurate. So if you have a high PSA reading and a negative biopsy - was the PSA a false positive? Or the biopsy a false negative? Most GPs seem to be against it. It's up to everyone to make up their own minds, not you to browbeat them into a test that may do more harm than good. That's all I've got to say on the matter. Let everyone talk to their GP and make up their own minds.
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Carni. It all quietened down somewhat when I got married in '74 and we had kids and bought a house.
I guess all fun things come to an end. It wasn't all fun anyway. Living on the street is tough.
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I went hitching around Australia when I was 16 in 1970. No credit card in back pocket in those days, not even any loose change.
Travelled up to Darwin with Sole Bros circus and left it at Darwin. Survived by picking up Coke bottles for the deposit and scavenging stale bread from the bakery after it closed. I lived in a cave on the beach. Eventually went back to Sydney and shacked up with a stripper in Kings Cross (Sydney's red light district) Made a living playing guitar in the cafes. I lived a completely nocturnal lifestyle going to bed when the sun rose.
Sex, drugs and rock and roll was the order of that year. 'Twas fun though. I'd do it again.
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Yes I'd agree with that Bilbraborn. I Gave up smoking 30 years ago, drinking 25 years ago but I'm still a couple of stone too heavy. What we need to do is look at our health overall and not just focus on one disease.
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Telling them to carry on as they are is a sure route to an early grave. Anyway, it seems that you know best and that science/medicine has got it wrong.
From Cancer Research:
Heavy/long-term smoking is associated with an 11–22% increase in risk of prostate cancer, and current smokers have a 14% increased risk of dying of prostate cancer, with a risk increase of 24–30% for those with the highest exposures, according to a meta-analysis.
BTW, Mr Charlesworth - do you smoke?
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It's no good shouting. Basically what you are saying is that you won £100 on a scratch card and now we should all go out and buy scratch cards. You keep banging on about just one form of illness when it isn't really likely to be the one that kills us. Stopping smoking, stopping drinking and watching our diets is what will save lives. Let's get it into perspective shall we?
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http://www.cancerresearchuk.org/cancer-info/cancerstats/types/prostate/mortality/
I'm sure we can trust Cancer Research. If I'm reading the graphs right then only 24 in 100,000 deaths are attributable to prostate cancer. The likelihood is that 100,000 biopsies will cause infections that lead to deaths too.
Let the medical world decide if we all need screening. None of us have a clue what we are talking about.
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If you smoke you have a 50% chance of dying from it. STOP SMOKING.
Smoking kills over 100,000 every year - but I don't see everyone packing up.
If you want to get checked with a PSA test then fine, but it isn't recommended by the health authorities.
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Colly. I too asked about the test when I last had a blood test but the gp said that having the test will often show a false positive and that would lead to rather unpleasant tests via biopsy up the bum and the biopsy itself can cause complications that you never had before the test. Statistically 48 men have to be treated for prostate cancer (not tested) to save one life. There are other things far more likely to kill you than that. If it were crucial to health then testing would be carried out like the bowel cancer screening. The fact that it isn't indicates it doesn't help.
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No wonder we can't get appointments when we need them - the hypochondriacs have booked them all up.
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Oh man! That's amazing.
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The main ride at Netherfield Fair was the Speedway. We used to walk around the ride when in motion the wrong way. It's dead easy when you get the hang of it.
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How did you give a stool sample? Can you do it on demand like a blood test? And what did she do with it?
Apparently most lady docs won't do a DRE cuz all the blokes were lining up. (weird people out there).
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He had one fantastic eyebrow though. He admits himself that he can't act.
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It always seemed to be a right scorcher too (Sydney 70s 80s when I was there).
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I remember the place well. I went to the library there and my older brothers used to go weightlifting there. When I was 10 my mate Stewart Nicholson and me used to light the boiler for his Dad at about 5 o'clock on a Friday. Imagine that? Ten years olds lighting boilers? Massive thing it was too. Lots of fun to be had though.
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Basically the gist of it all is that if you go looking for trouble you'll probably find it. In our litigious society hospitals will elect to operate to avoid a 'failure to act' lawsuit.
Personally, I'd rather keep my tackle in working order until there is a problem.
That's my choice and it's made after reading about the issue and following best medical practice.
I'm not in a high risk group. I'm white and there is no familial history.