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Right. I'll try that then.
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O right....
OK I've tried that but when I select the largest image and right click I don't get the option to 'copy image'. Only to 'copy link location'.
P'raps they don't like me..
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Many thanks Fynger.
But what's the secret? .......
Col
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P.S. Also found out yesterday that my uncle Frank Radford kept the Horse and Jockey in Bulwell Mkt for a while in the 60s. Anyone remember him?
Col
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https://www.flickr.com/gp/136033576@N07/R7cz4Q
OK. As you can see from #277 above, I had no trouble posting my signal box image from Flickr. But now, I can't get the above link.. also from Flickr, to post 'inline'. It's a lovely pic from Springfields Hosiery Finishing in Bulwell and features my Mum as a girl, in white, on the left. I'm guessing she's about 15/16, which would make it about 1938/9. If anyone can advise why I can't get it 'in line', or advise exactly what 'that image extension' is that I'm not allowed to use, I would be deliighted.
Thanks.
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OMG Enigma! That is the very place my Grandad. Jack Whyman MM worked when I was a kid. Jack died in 1969. I've been in there and actually turned the wheel that opened the crossing gates. Fabulous memories. All the more poignant just now as only yesterday we said our farewells to my Mum, Joyce (nee Whyman) who passed away recently aged 91.
I have a picture of a similar signal box, with my Grandad Jack at the open window. I can't say exactly where it was, but it may be Bobber's Mill.
There you go! This picture is dated: July 22nd 1927.
Col
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Benjamin. Re: #24. Obviously people came and went, but in the 50s we would have had the Girlings next door at No. 38, with the Barbers next to them. Girlings were unusual in that they had a car. Morris 1000 and at some point I think a Beetle. Kids were Lynne and David. At 42 were the Gambles, related to the Devney's who live much nearer the Padstow end.Kids were Pauline, Susan ?, and Graham. At 44 Sanders with their lad Gerald and at 46 Bramley's, with Pauline, Peter and Harold.
At 30, Armstrong's with their lad David and at 28, Chambers with Richard, Judith and Barbara. 26. last I remember were Champmans I think then at 24, Hollifields.I believe the lads Ray and ? are still around the area.
Does that help?
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That's the one! Thank you so much for posting it.!
I've only seen B/W pics of it so far, sent to me by a cousin! It's not still there is it?
I'm going to try to save that pic.
It's really odd to think that my Great Grandad, Grandad, Mum and uncle all lived in there at some point.
Also my Mum used to talk about living somewhere called 'Nut Yard'. She said it was scary in the dark, but I can't find any reference to it.
Col
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I've not read the bulk of this thread but it seems my family were Bulwell through and through.
My Grandad Jack Whyman lived at No. 4 Grindon Crescent until he died in 1969. Prior to that he was a Railway Signalman and worked the box at Bulwell Crossings (St Alban's Rd/Bestwood Rd Junction.) Before that he lived in the Railway House at Bobber's Mill, which I believe was only demolished a couple of years ago. Jack won the Military Medal in WW1. Jack's Dad John Whyman also lived in the Railway House and John's Dad William was a lock keeper on the Derby Canal at Borrowash from about 1848 to 1898.
My Mum was also brought up in Bobber's Mill and then Bulwell Hall. She passed away just a couple of weeks ago aged 91. She went to Springfield School in the 1930s and then worked for Springfield Hosiery. Somewhere there's a pic of her at about 15, working in there.
When I was a kid, the area opposite Grindon Crs, was just a sort of swamp. There were trees, but they were all standing in water and full of Rooks. It's all been a garage or something since.about the 70s
As a lad I remember the shops along Bulwell Main St all had their 'awnings' out.
Who remembers that on Coventry Rd, between Buckingham Rd and Hempshill Lane, there was a pub that was closed down even in the early 60s. It was the Black Horse.
There were two chippies along main street.. Both on the right as you headed toward the Adelphi. The first was Sanderson's, or 'Sando's. The next was way further down. On a corner, around the Three Crown's area. Not as good. smelly old fat in the fryers.
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I moved onto Southglade Rd. (No. 40) around 1951/2, when I was barely 3. Prevously we lived at 76 Glaisdale Drive, Bilboro.
Back then, there was no Beckhampton, no Rise Park, or Top Valley, or Bestwood Park. There was just Bestwood Est. It was bordered by Andover to the east, Arnold Rd to the South, Landcroft, Gainsford and Padstow to the west and Southglade to the north. It was a sort of paradise.
I could cross over Southglade on a spring morning and pull green Hawthorn shoots out of the hedge. We called them 'Bread and Cheese' and they were quite edible.
At the bottom of Southglade was Southglade Farm, run by Gervaise( Jarve) Goddard.
At the top, was the crossing over the Leen Valley line, where the Gala Bingo is now. Jarve used to bring up milk on a pony and trap every morning and take it over the Leen Valley line to leave it on the side of Hucknall Rd. One morning his horse was spooked by a passing train and ran back down Southglade scattering milk, bottles, crates and churns all down the street.
Rigleys was there, almost opposite our house. But the rest was just fields. My Dad came from Bestwood Colliery and his Mum kept the Bestwood Hotel, next to the pit baths. Dad would walk us kids over the fields to Bestwood Colliery three times a year, collecting Bluebells from the woods, Blackberries and then Chestnuts. Grandma was a 'wizz' with preserves and kept them in the cellars under the Bestwood Hotel
Those fields, and later the area around Bulwell Common, were my world as a kid. Fields, hedges, trees. birds, wild flowers, etc., mixed with steam engines, train spotting and watching all the 'Boy's Own' jet aircraft over Hucknall all combined into a pretty amazing time. I had no idea how well off I was, in terms of interest and excitement. It was a brilliant place to be a kid.
I've hardly even skimmed the surface in this post.. but it was a terrific place to grow up. Most of those who live there now, despite the dodgy reputation, are decent enough folk. But they will not recall what Bestwood was like in the 1950s and early 1960s.
There's a place called 'Emmanuel Church' It is just as few yards from the Duke of St Albans pub. I first saw it at about age 6. around 1955. My Dad showed it to me as he walked me through the fields from Bestwood Est. to Bestwood Colliery. One thing which struck me was a red marble gravestone.
The next time I saw Emmanuel Church was a week or so back. It's now totally surrounded by housing. But the red marble is still there.
Emmanuel Church has some sort of 'twinning' thing with St Marks Church in Bestwood Colliery. Despite spending many hours and every Christmas in Bestwood Colliery as a kid, I never went into St Mark's Churchyard until a year or so back. When I did, almost the first grave I saw was Samuel Berresford 1846-1897. My great, great Grandfather.
Makes you think.
Col
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@ #47 and 47.
Yep! That's Graham. Last time I saw him he drove me up to the Charlie II in an ancient Renault Dauphin. About '71 I reckon. Have had a few emails since including hearing of the sad death of his Bro Bob, who was a very good friend at school.
I recall fab evenings above their parent's shop in Andover Rd in the mid 60s. Listening to Buddy Holly and tape recordings of Beatles BBC shows.
Seems so long ago.
Well actually it was. More than half a century. 'Gulp'
Col
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360 Club now sold and being converted to flats. Mal Redman who was one of the old stalwarts and now does his own soul nights posted some pics of the interior just before the builders got stuck in. I'll try to post them too.
As I understand it, Steve Austin ran 'Pulse Discotheque', which was active around Nottm (including 360 I think) but after I left for pastures new. I met Steve at one of Dave Pickering's 360 Club re-unions sometime around 1997. Held at Bestwood Miner's Welfare. Dave now regularly comes up to Liverpool which is handy for me. We meet up at Lime Street. Go for a feed and then get drunk in the Cavern..
The simple plans are always the best.
Col
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@ Norm the Storm.
I remember you all well. Pete and Billy did a very creditable 'Sam and Dave' tribute, plus some excellent renditions of Otis type stuff. If I can, I'll post a page from my 1969 diary showing the date. I've also got a cancelled cheque from what we paid you!
Bill later appeared on 'New Faces' or similar and released a couple of singles.
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Re: #41.
Guilty as charged M'Lud.
It's just a habit from another forum where I don't get moaned at within 3 or 4 posts of bringing my scintillating wit, charm, intelligence, integrity, good looks and limitless knowledge back for the benefit of al!!
Col.
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I was born on LEYBOURNE drive DJ360 and lived on the Estate till 1967,what road did you live on?
just seen the other thread Southglade was'nt it, bet i know you, knew most folk on Southglade either from school or when i worked at Marsdens on Andover.
Have you posted about Marsden's on 'Stuart Frew's site?
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I was at High Pavement from 1961 to 1966, so a year below you, DJ360.
Then you'd have been in the same year as Dave Armstrong and Grahame Wyville?
Col
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Coming a bit late to this thread.
My uncle George Burgin had a shop on the corner of Vernon Rd and Gordon St. Little grocers. I went along there just last week and you can clearly see where the shop front has been bricked up to turn the building into a house again. Also at the top of Gordon Rd on the other side of Bulwell Lane, where there are now houses, Uncle George had a woodyard, where he sold new and 'recycled' timber. Behind that he had a couple of allotments where he would grow tomatoes and other stuff to sell in the shop. He also used timber off cuts bundled up and sold as firewood in the shop. All in all he didn't miss many opportunities to make a penny...
I also remember 'Catchem's, which I see is still there. Last time I was in there was after doing a Saturday morning at Whiteley Read's Boiler Works. It would be around 1970. I recall that the Poppy Family 'Which Way You Goin' Billy' was playing on the Juke Box.
Funny what sticks in the mind.
Col
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Hi, guys, I'm somewhat humbled and surprised by people trying to locate me. Well, I'm still alive and well and living in Dorset. I still have connections with Nottingham and will be on the main stage a this years Riverside Festival as I have been for the last 8 years. So why not come down and say hello.
I still have most of he music I had back in the Beachcomber and Union days but these days I am in the business of making music, not just playing it. Still cant leave the music though ,guys, and these days I make my living as a sound designer/engineer. This year will see me reach my 60th birthday. It doesn't seem that long ago that I was pumping out sounds down by the river Trent. Thank you for thinking of me after all this time and I'm happy that you all found my efforts worthwhile. Love to ya all, DJ Petal
Hi Keith!
Doubt you remember me but we used to chat at the Union on Thursdays, which were about my only night off from the 360 Club in Bulwell.and on odd occasions I went back with you and Mrs Petal for a cuppa at your place before walking the rest of the way home to Bestwood. You lived somewhere along Forest Rd at the time, opposite the cemetary.
I was 'DJ Colin' of the 'Magic Roundabout Disc Show' and we mostly did the 360, Carlton Hotel, a couple of other residencies and many gigs on the 'Weddings and Funerals' circuit.
Stay well!
Col
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Great pictures of Bulwell, just about the time I left, skirts were going up. The traction poles for the trolleys still there but stinking diesels in use. I used to climb up into the curves of the walls of Henry Mellish (Who was he?). Some of the pupils came by train to Basford North, from Kimberley etc. It was a good looking school then. I had to go past it to High Pavement on Stanley Road, and later to Bestwood Estate.
I lived on Bestwood Estate and went to High Pavement from 1960-1965. My Mum lived on Bestwood Estate for over 60 years from about 1951 to 2011, when she was obliged to move into a care home. Sadly she passed away on 26th August.
I left Nottm around 1970-71 and after a bit of wandering I've lived in Lancs ever since, close to Wigan and St Helens in a little place called Billinge. Whilst I'm not anti-progress, some of the planning decisions in Nottm are grotesque in ways which make Python look positively sane. I well recall coming out of Midland Station onto Arkwright St in the very early 70s to find that some idiot had plonked Broad Marsh Shopping centre in my way. In whose universe did that monstrosity make any sort of sense?
Who was the genius who approved the demolition of Drury Hill? It was a gem which in any other city would now be a major tourist draw.
On a smaller scale. Bulwel Forest Golf Course used to be heathland. Heathland of that sort is an increasingly rare habitat, but the Golf course now looks horrible. OK, I accept the need for fences to stop golf balls hitting the ever increasing traffic along Hucknall Rd. (A couple of cars an hour when I was a lad), but all those trees are just wrong, and have changed the character of the place for the worse.
Bulwell. In some ways I'm amazed that so many fine old Bulwell Stone buildings still exist, but they did a sort of 'mini Maid Marion Way', when they just pushed 'Bulwell High Road' through, completely disrupting the way the town worked.
I could go on but I doubt anyone is listening.....
Col.
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I remember those airshows so well.
I lived on Southglade Road Bestwood Estate and back then you could easily see the airfield just beyond Bulwell on the other side of the Leen Valley.
Better views could be had by heading up the fields to what is now The Ridgeway on Top Valley. Of course back then there was no Top Valley or anything else much between Bestwood Estate and Bestwood Colliery. It was quite literally 'all fields'.
Closer views could be had from the golf course at Bulwell Hall Park and even closer still from a path that ran out of the park between the end of the Runway and some old slag heaps. Even when the shows weren't on, we used to sit on the slag heaps for hours hoping to be under a Vulcan or somesuch as it hopped over them before dropping onto the runway. There were some pretty amazing things flying around Hucknall in those days, including Lightnings, Vulcans, Javelins, Shackletons and all sorts of weird and wonderful flying test beds with odd engine configurations etc.
At the shows we regularly saw the Black Arrows in their Hunters, the Red Devils parachute team, the Battle of Britain Memorial Flight, Lightnings, usually a flight of American F86 Sabres, , plus assorted other stuff such as Jet Provosts, Vampires and the like.
Great Memories.
Col
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Not been in here for a couple of years and a real shock to hear about Carl I knew Carl very well, though I've not lived in Nottm for over 40 years now. (See post #69) I DJ'd alongside Carl and the Fables at the 360 Club, the Carlton Hotel and various 'one off' gigs way back. I still have my old 1969 diary listing Carl's Fables as a regular Sunday evening booking at the 360 Club. Just phoned my old 360 mate Dave Pickering who is never online and he too is very upset to hear this news. My thoughts go out to all of his friends and family.
Col
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Good Evening! A while since I posted here but since I lived on Southglade and spent much time on Bulwell Common, I thought I'd chuck my two penn'orth in. I have a lovely book, 'Railways North of Nottingham in the Latter Days of Steam', by Malcolm Castledine. Book Law Publications Nottm. ISBN 1 901945 33 2 (2004) which has many super pics of Bulwell Common Station, Bulwell Market station Basford Northern and many other places anyone from the area of a certain age will remember. Well worth seeking out.
Re: The plane crash, which I too remember, though only faintly as I was very young., this which I posted on another site:
Tony B. I know Kersall Drive and surrounding areas well. It was young ladies from that area who first distracted from from trains and aeroplanes! I found the ladies more interesting but even harder to catch!
Slightly off topic, but still possibly interesting to others. I worked at the Coal Board Labs in Cinderhill for a few years after leaving school. In the summer months I found a lovely route to work by going from home in Southglade Road, over the Leen Valley Railway at the crossing onto Hucknall Road and then over the old Central Railway via St Albans Rd and the down Kersall and Saxondale drives to ? Can't remember what the main road was called, but I'm talking about where the old Basford Northern station was and the Northern swimming baths.
From there I could get up onto the old viaduct over the Leen. That was a fascinating walk and would bring me scrambling down to Leonard Street, from where I did a quick left and a right into the labs.
Back to Wrigley's (Incidentally, can anybody remember which its was? Wrigley, or Rigley.. I can't.)
I'm not sure if they are still there, but until recently, you could still make out the footings of the old Bulwell Forest Ladies Golf House, opposite the main house and right next to where Wrigley's stood
Just a few memories of the sort of thing that fascinated us as kids…..
Most of my world comprised two fields which ran the length of Southglade. Back then, they formed a broad hollow and then sloped up again to meet the bank which descended from Wrigley's. In the 60s the council decided to use the fields as land fill, with the result that they are now above the level of Southglade Road and built up with the Gala Bingo and a load of unattractive industrial units.
The fields which used to be full of Skylarks, Burnet Moths, all manner of wild flowers (Scabious, Hearts-ease, Scarlet Pimpernel, Speedwell etc.) are now buried up to about fifty feet below the present level. It breaks my heart.
At the bottom of Southglade road, more or less between what used to be the Deerstalker pub,(Now a Nursery I think) and the present Sports Centre, was Gervais Goddard's farm.
He would regularly drive a small horse drawn trap up Southglade and leave milk churns on Hucknall Road, just over the railway crossing.
One beautiful Summer morning I heard a tinkling noise and looked out of the front window to see the horse and trap hurtling past towards the farm. By the time I got to our front gate, all there was to be seen was a trail of crates, bottles and churns all down Southglade and I could just make out the horse and trap at the farm gate at the bottom of the street.
It seems that Farmer Gervais (Jarve.. as we called him) had just arrived at the railway crossing where the Gala is now, when a local train shot by and scared the horse….
Fortunately, the horse (And Jarve) were uninjured.
However. As kids, we regularly crossed the Leen Valley line to access Hucknall Road from Southglade. There were a couple of locked farm type gates used by Jarve, but pedestrians crossed freely and without supervision. There was a small house on the Hucknall Road side, with a little indicator on the wall which read 'Train Approaching' 'Train in Section' etc., though I never worked out exactly what it was supposed to be telling me.
I was warned about trains and their attendant danger. There as a very strong local tale of a girl who supposedly got her foot caught in the gap under the rail and suffered severe injury as the rail dipped up and down under the weight of a passing train, but I never found out what truth there was in it.
Finally, there was the plane crash at Bulwell Common. Just found this:
UK Flight Testing Accidents 1940 – 1971
Has the following entry
13 JUNE 1951 CANBERRA B.1(P) VN850
Mr R.H.B.Peach (Test Pilot), Rolls Royce, Hucknall. Test flight.
Part of 100 hour intensive flying trials on Avon RA7 engines, the starboard engine fitted with high energy ignition. One hour and 22 minutes after take off the pilot advised that the port engine was out and be was unable to re light.
He was cleared for a direct approach to the runway. At about 250ft on finals the aircraft was seen to drop the port wing, the nose then went down, the aircraft turned 45 degrees to port and the undercarriage was retracted but the flaps stayed down.
Climbing slightly and turning slowly to port the aircraft crossed the airfield before dropping the port wing again and the aircraft dived into the St.Alban's railway sidings at Bulwell Common railway station, Nottingham:
The speed had been allowed to become too low on the approach by a pilot inexperienced on type (3.15hrs) and he was unable to use the full thrust of the starboard engine to recover the situation.
It is likely that retraction of the flaps caused the final wing drop and dive. This was the first fatal accident involving a Canberra 1 killed. Cat 5.
(refs 38, 47, 195 & 360).
These references are listed as
38 Canberra – the operational record ISBN 1 – 7183-0619-8
47 English Electric Aircraft and their predecessors ISBN 0-85177-806-2
195 R-R Heritage Trust Archives – Courtesy of David Birch
360 AIB reports various – Contained in PRO AVIA/5 Folders No20 – 38
My only comment is that for the year of 1951 this accident was the 17th out of a total of 34. How times change.
DJ360
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And according to the sign next door Tom Anderson's tripe.
I'm not sure he'd agree.
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Been away for a while. Nice new Grandson born .(Our first) and a bit of a wobble for me with another slight stroke. Dead Arm/Hand for a few days , otherwise OK.
Loved 'Jeff's'. IIRC, there was 'Jeff's for the more workaday stuff' 'Lord Jeffrey' and Miss Jeffrey' for the more mod stuff. I recall buying a pair of 'Lee' jeans there for 55s, when 'mere' Levis were 52s&6p
TBH, I could never decide what I was back then. I loved motorbikes, but wasn't a 'greaser'. I liked the Mod style but thought scoooters were dangerous things. I wore Levis, Wrangler jackets and all sorts of stuff from the Army Stores.
I was a bit of a hippy type, but not all flower power. Smoked a few spliffs, did a few pills, dropped a bit of acid, but mostly just drank. Despite it all I had an MRI scan last week which apparently showed that my brain is in better shape than many my age. I was more of a 'beat', as we used to say..... sort of semi-hippy. At odds with society, but not all dippy and hippy. Musically, I was DJ ing Soul, Stax, Motown etc., at the 360 Club, then going home and listening to Dylan, Cohen, classical stuff etc.. And I wandered about a lot, which is why I am now in Lancashire.
Worked out OK though. I have 2 daughters. One is Reg. blind but has just produced Grandson No.1. The other is a fashion designer. I am very proud of both.
Got myself trapped here in Lancashire and have to stay for my kids, but give me half an excuse and I'll be back in Nottm like a shot.
Col
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Nope. Still won't work. I can get 'copy image' from the 'all sizes' page, but it won't let me paste in here. No optoioon appears here when I right click.
Flickr is very rubbish now, so could be their issue.
Col