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I have attached a drawing of the Central Market. It shows the location of my cart.
I have also shown inside the market my favourite Mushy peas and cockles stand. I always had my peas and cockles here as everyone was so friendly and their mint sauce tasted great on the peas.
In the fruit and veg section of the market there were 4 cafes as marked. My favourite one was number 2 as you could get really good cheese and onion crusty topped cobs with a very tasty cheddar cheese, they also served a beautiful ham cob with the ham sliced straight off the bone and topped with Coleman's mustard. My mother introduced me to this café because when she went there she always believed this café served the best mug of tea. Also shown is the fruit and veg stall where we used to buy all our fruit and veges. My mother used to get a discount at this stall because she was classified as a long term regular. I would really enjoy the Saturday afternoons that my mother and spent at the market, she always made the day out very special. I think this was because I came from a large family and very rarely did I get the opportunity to spend time with my mother alone.
I still have a lot of very happy memories regarding these trips.
When we first got to Australia, when I was at home my mother and I always made a point of going shopping together on Saturdays. Where she would enjoy a pot of tea while I drank a coffee. The café was right next to the supermarket and they sold really good cream cakes. My mother was always on a diet, but after getting my mother to forget the diet for one day, she would always take a big cream puff
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Again I don't know how accurate this info is but here goes;
I have always had an interest in all types of boats and living in Carlton it was the Trent that interested me most. I read something once a long time ago that a company moved to Nottingham or near Nottingham to build steel barges, I think it was in the 1920s or 30s. I can't remember the company name, I think it started with W maybe Wilkins or Wilkinson or Watson (Honestly not sure). If this was the case then the barge traffic must have started to increase around this period. prior to this period I believe there may have been some barge traffic but maybe smaller shallower draft vessels. The Trent has always had some craft plying its waters. I am sure it would have been a major highway for hundreds of years as it is a large river.
Now all we have to do is find out exactly when the ferry stopped working and if it ever did start again with volunteers. This is something I can't help with. I have no knowledge of Stoke after 1968.
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#13 I think the strong smell you were talking about was from a tannery. I remember that smell and you would often see trucks loaded with cow hides covered in blood in that area.
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#6 Used to like taking my girlfriends there in the early 60s, because it was free. Sit under the trees on the benches, in the sunshine. What more would a girl want? I was a very romantic person in my early days, but cheap. Glad there were no Mac donalds around in those days. people waste too much time in those places now, they don't really get out and experience the real world as we used to do. I actually miss the castle, would love to go back one day. Things are changing so much now, place want money for everything. Gone are the days of a cheap day out.
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#19 Only one time did I get a leach on me and I think it was at the opposite side boat ramp. As for having a beer for you I live in Taiwan now and I don't like the beer. So if you get to the Inn before me, have one for me. Actually this topic has brought back a lot of happy memories for me. Also just remembered the barge that was made into a landing was a blunt ended barge. I feel it is the same one.
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#16 Trevor S Thanks for those pics, liked the post. I never saw the big barge. but looking at the pics it would have been about the same size as the barge that was concreted over to make a landing.
Wonder if it is the same?
I do know that during the time I knew the ferry, it did not carry a lot of passengers. The fishing clubs used to use fairly often to carry out finishing competitions are the opposite bank. It was quiet over the other side. I often used to get a free ride with the ferry man.
maybe the Ferry In would have some photos of the ferry man, because he was always in there during the summer months.
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#12 Hi Babs. One time when I was swimming there (I think I was with John P. ) There was a group of kids with a dog. Sad to say I cannot remember what type of dog, but I do remember it was swimming around with the kids. I think our paths may have crossed many times.
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Also something that came to me in bed last night regarding the ferry.
There used to be two thick posts with a steel eye screwed into them, one on each side of the river, in fact I recall the boatman used to tie off the ferry to these. There was something told to me about those posts being used for a pull along ferry in the early 1900s. The cables were washed away by a big flood. How accurate this is I am not sure. maybe someone else may be able to add to this. I believe everyone who is posting in this topic could be correct about the method of power for this ferry.
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Most of the barges I remember were hopper style barges carrying sand, gravel and cement. with sand and gravel barges the product was not covered and was often heaped up above the deck. The cement barges had batten down hatches to stop the cement blowing away and contaminating the air.
Most of the barges had a name on them and then the word cement. I cannot remember the name of the company that ran the barges. You could tell which barges were carrying product, the decks were nearly down to water level. Empty the sat very high in the water (I think maybe 12 to 15 feet).
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Love this topic. brings back lots of memories. Trevethick. I was trying to remember where I know the name from now it has all come back to me.
I used to rent sculls or a row boat and row down to the co-op bakery. In the rented time in a row boat I could just make the trip to the bakery and back but in a scull I could go down to the bakery back up to the suspension bridge and then back to trevethicks. the sculls were sleek and fast.
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#7 NewBasfordlad remember the area well. I used to fish on the bend, also swam the river across and back a few times the current was always stronger on the other side. Just getting off the original subject for one minute. Fishing there reminded me that I used to use maggots and hemp seed for bait. Just imagine getting pick up with a six penny bag of hemp seed now. It's ok officer, it is only fish bait.
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#28 No problems Babs, Thank you very much for your help.
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Ramps for the disabled must meet very strict guidelines. This is the one that I had to follow whilst designing.
They must be at least 1.2 mtrs (4Feet ) wide, with a gradient of 1:8, the cross fall should be no more than1:40.
Ramps longer than 1.5 mtrs. (5Feet) long must have a gradient of less than 1:14 Level rest areas must be inserted at 9 mtr (30feet) intervals.
All areas must be slip resistant. Level landings must be place between the end of the ramp and the door also between the end of the ramp and the path.
Ramps must be fitted with balustrade must be made as a structure that cannot be climbed if the ramp exceeds a finished height of .6 mtr. (2 feet)
If we were just very slightly out with our measurements when constructing said structure, we could be directed to pull it down and rebuild it to conform with regulations.
These regulations are standing for any new buildings and any newly renovated buildings. Doors must also be .9 Mtr (3feet) to accommodate wheelchairs
As someone stated they should have rehouse the people as what they built is the only way to overcome the grade and height of the block. It is not the designers fault it is the people who instructed them to build it there. the designers and the builders can only wok with the above guidelines.
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Loppylugs. Maybe an earlier boat was a pull along. But the only one I Knew was operated by oars. Also regarding the ferryman, He was a grumpy old B***%%%$$$. The name Old Nic would have suited him. But he was always nice to me
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I think I can refresh some memories about the ferry. My memories may not be totally accurate, but it will be a start.
It was operated by an old guy in his sixties. It only operated for about 3 to 4 months each year. The old guy (And I am sorry I cannot remember his name) lived in a caravan during the summer months in the field just behind the inn's carpark. There were about 10 caravans in there used mainly during the summer season. I used to deliver newspapers to them.
If you went to the ferry boat you knew it was operating if the oars were stretched across the seats. If you stood by the boat for up to 10 minutes the ferryman would wander across from the pub. He used to sit at the window looking out for passengers on both sides of the river. It was operating in the 50s. It was maybe 1955, the first time I went there was when I was about 8 years old with my younger brother. We were playing on the barge when we fell into the river. The ferryman had just got back from a trip and he rushed over and helped us out. There was also a lady there fishing, who took my brother and I back to her house in Stoke Bardolph (At the time it was a house on the new estate that was being built), gave us a bath, put us in to dry clothes and told us to go straight home. When my mother found out what had happened, we wished we had never gone. And it happened again when my father got home. My father took us back to the lady and made us thank her for what she had done.
I used to spend a lot of time down there fishing and watching the barges go up and down the river, the wash from the barges used to rock the ferry boat. In the beginning if we fished from the ferry boat while the oars were in it, we were chased off. After I started delivering the newspapers he did not chase us off, but we had to promise we would stay seated while we were fishing.
I know the ferry was still operating in 1962 or 63. I heard that it stopped operating around 1966. ( But I don't know for sure). Also the boat in the picture is not the original one that I knew. The original was a clinker type, maybe a little longer with no writing on it. The one in the pic looks like a plywood boat, it has smooth sides.
I have also read somewhere recently (can't remember where) that it had restarted or was going to restart using volunteer boatmen. At the time I did not take a lot of notice, living so far away. It may have even been in the Nottingham Post, because I have been reading the online copy for some time now.
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#6 Limey. Taipei has changed quite a bit since 1999, and it is much cleaner now that they have very regular rubbish collection. I can also tell you the Grand is still there . In fact it now has a very nice steak house, a little expensive, but fantastic food. The people have not changed much, they always try to make foreigners welcome, especially westerners. This is why I like Taiwan so much. I too hate the betel nuts, but you would be surprised how many people chew on them. You can tell a betel nut chewer by the dark red lips. But something worse than betel nuts is stinky tofu. more about this in the next post on Night markets.
#7 Bazza, you will be pleased to know there are special clients here, but we keep them in cages (not joking, tell you more in another post). Wait for a later post regarding this, and be prepared. You will need clean pants again.
As for the hot dog carts, don't laugh. You don't know how close to the truth you are. My next big post, after the lantern festival, will relate to Taiwan's night markets and their exotic and not so exotic food.
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So true Bilboro-Lad, but look where John Singleton is today. He has his own advertising agency and is worth millions.
The one I hate most was the Palmolive ad. It is good for your dishes and it's so good for your hands.
But remember the old saying: No one remembers or talks about the good things you do. They only remember and talk about the bad things. This is also true with advertising.
If you asked what are the ads you most like, you will find people may only remember the recent ones..
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Thank you again for your kind comments, while you are happy with what I write, I will keep writing. Please do me a favor just tell me when it gets boring.
I have just got back in. It is very cold today about 8 degrees, strong cold winds and rain. I don't want to go out again today, so I will continue with this topic.
As I said before Taiwan is not paradise. Definition of Paradise: A place where you want for nothing. You have it all. I want some warm weather.
Today I had something happen that I did not mention in the last post. Pedestrian crossings. Forget about watching the traffic lights and walking across safely on a green light. Not thinking today, I crossed on a green light forgetting here that I must look both ways and give way before I walk. A delivery truck just missed me. If I had been walking a little faster, he would have hit me. The government about 12 months ago have told drivers that if they do not give way at crossings, drivers will be fined. The problem is the police are not enforcing the rule. Actually there is not a big police presence in Taiwan.
This post is about our latest festival. My favorite festival is the Ghost festival, but I won't spoil the fun and write about this one now as it does not happen until August. The festival now is the Lantern Festival, it is a continuation of the Chinese New Year, but we don't get a holiday for this one. The festival is on now until the 16th February. The main day for celebration is the 15th day. The festival originally was held on the 15th day of the first month of the Lunar calendar. Because Chinese New year follows this calendar the lantern festival follows it.
Talking about holidays makes me think about a bit of recent local news I should share with you. The government stated a couple of days ago they are thinking of approving more public holidays to increase spending by the locals around the country. Give the Taiwanese long weekends and they travel and spend.
The Lantern festival is full of bright lights and fireworks. Mostly the fireworks are in Southern Taiwan while the North celebrates more with sky lanterns.(Rather than I post lots of photos, just copy and paste this link to view some beautiful photos).
In the old days the fireworks were used to ward off evil and disease. The Sky Lanterns were used to signal that a town or city was still safe. It starts at 6pm and finishes at 5am and there is lots to see. The photos do not do this festival justice. It is big, bright and beautiful, with lots of noise. In Taipei you catch the MRT (underground to you folks) to the main site, step out of the station and the display stretches for about 2.5 kilometres before you. The main lights usually follow the animal signs of the Chinese zodiac, but you can also find your favorite Disney characters and other characters mixed in.
The kids remind me of how kids are at Christmas, about to open presents, they walk through the lights excited by what they see, laughing or giggling as they look around in wonder. Even the adults tend to become kids again, fascinated by the lights there are a lot of oooohs and rrrrrrrrrrs as they move along. I too join them and and never tire of enjoying the experience. Taiwan is a place to feel like a kid again. There are many things to do and everyone joins in, age does not matter. If you feel young enough to participate, then you are young enough. Nights of wonder, nothing to worry about other than the lights and food.
We have underground shopping malls, here you will find gangs of teenagers, but it is more like our teenage years. The kids are there not troubling anyone. A lot of them practice group dance steps. They love dancing. They find big glass windows to use as mirrors and practice their dance steps as a group.
These same gangs may go to a festival, they can be loud and playful, but certainly no trouble.
Sorry I am drifting off track here, so back to the lantern festival, as I said before it goes for 10 days and there are things to do everyday. There are so many different displays, you could find a new one almost every night. Combine these displays with the night markets, and nights can turn into really enjoyable evenings, as there is always lots of different types of cheap food available at the night markets. (Maybe that is a thought for another post in this topic, Night markets and food). The main night on the 15th is the main firework night. Here people can still buy fireworks and have their own fireworks show, or if it is a nice night take them to the beach to let them off.
The good news at the moment is that the weather will start warming up again by Thursday. So I think I will stay indoors until Thursday. It will still give me Friday, Saturday and Sunday to join in the festivities. maybe I can give a couple of my experiences from these nights.
I think I will break up a few chairs now, and start a fire in the middle of my living room. Relax and watch discovery channel.
Be back soon.
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I was in London from 1966 to 1967. Sorry I wrote the last post very quickly.
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Hi Babs, I am sorry to hear about what happened to your brother. I am sorry, but I did not know your brothers. I was talking about John Price in my last post who you said was a good friend of yours. I really do apologise if my last post was misleading. I should have used John price and not just the name John..
I may have known your brother John through Tony. But when Tony was going to Chandos Street I was working in London. I was in London from 1966 to late 1997. Then I moved back to Nottingham and joined NCT.
Roger moved to America. I don't know why? (I think it may have been a woman). We don't have much contact. I have not seen him for over 12 years.
Diane married and had 4 children, then was divorced, and then married an ex airforce guy. After they married her husband bought a large farm and they moved there, they are now raising cattle. I think it is almost 20 years since I saw her. Tony joined the Health department in Australia and is still there, he never got married (But we used to tell him he had two wives because he lived with a set of twins) They even purchased a house together. LUCK GUY.
Babs may I leave a contact email on your PM. As I would like to contact John price again and also I would like to ask you a couple of other questions too.
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Hi Babs
Please check the Hello topic, I did reply to your comments in that topic. My biggest problem is names, I am afraid I do not recognise the name Mc Carthy or Annette.
Do not worry, My follow up to this will be about our lantern festival which we are celebrating now until the 16th February.
I am sorry Mick, I have spent all my crisp new notes and my old ones also. If you had asked me earlier I am sure I could have saved one for you.
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Hi everyone. I am glad you liked the post. Thank you for your comments.
#2 Micheal Booth Enjoy Hong Kong
I am afraid Hong Kong is changing rapidly. More and more mainland Chinese are moving to HK for work. It is now getting hard to find a Taxi driver who speaks English and in the night markets the vendors use their calculators to show you the price of something.
#3 cliff ton
Thank you very much for the link. I will try it later.
#6 Carni The motorized carts sold only boiled products. But the best Hot dogs and hamburgers in my opinion were from the push along cart which offered fried hotdogs and hamburgers with real fried onions. They were more tasty, I even ate one of each of those every night.
#18 Bazza Thank you I am glad my you liked my post. We must have worked the area at about the same time 63-64. I can see, you understood who I was talking about.
They definitely were the good old days.
#27 Katyjay I really liked the video.
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I have been asked to write a little about Taiwan. I don't know what a little is, so if I write a lot please forgive me.
We have just finished our Chinese New Year celebrations (6 days of festivities) Happy Chinese New Year. It is now the year of the Horse.
CNY is celebrated very much like Christmas, but the difference is there are no presents. Here it is red envelopes. The parents give the children red envelopes with money in them, the parents also give their parents red envelopes. The amount of money in each envelopes can vary from around 30 pounds to thousands of pounds. I like CNY because a lot of my students and students parents give me red envelopes. Again the amount varies by how much a student or family can afford. All the money given in the envelopes must be crisp new notes for good luck. Usually the banks start exchanging old notes for new notes about 1 month before New Year. The first day of the holiday is for visiting the husbands parents. The second day is for visiting the wife's parents, after that families are free to do what they want with the holiday.
10 years ago I was travelling through Asia, after travelling through, Japan, China, Thailand and the Philippines I did not know which country to visit next, so I wrote Taiwan, Korea, Malaysia, and Singapore on small pieces of paper, after throwing the pieces of paper into a bag, I shook the bag and chose 1 piece of paper, it had the name Taiwan on it, so I jumped on a plane and headed to Taiwan. I liked it very much and after talking to an American, I decided I would find work and stay here for a little while. It has now been 10 years and I am still here. I now have a small language school that caters to about 70 students learning English.
Taiwan is not paradise, but it is a beautiful, some parts mountainous, sometimes flat, country. The people are great. It is like living in the 1960s again. Very low crime rate. I live in a city that has a harbour right in the middle of the city centre. Believe it or not men, women and even children can walk around safely anytime day or night, even after midnight. When you travel on buses or trains you will never encounter verbally abusive drunks or gangs. In fact in my ten years here I have only come across 2 drunks in the street and they just staggered past me without even a sideways glance.
But don't get me wrong, it can still be a dangerous country. I will now explain why. Taiwanese people are very patient people, they will sit in traffic jams for hours and not an angry word will be uttered. But at traffic lights their attitudes change. two lane roads quickly become four or even five lanes, don't be crossing the road when the traffic lights turn green. It is like a drag strip, they wait for nothing and no one, once the lights do change. Then they have the sidewalks, here you would think that pedestrians would have the right of way, you are wrong, sidewalks are there for the bike riders and motor scooter riders. You must give way to them, pinning yourself against a wall or stepping on to the road to allow them through. Some sidewalks have so many scooters parked on them you have to walk on the road to get around them. Then you have the older people in Taiwan that used to walk along the roads when there was very little traffic. These people still walk the roads and expect all traffic to give way to them. There is still a lot of respect held for the older people, so the traffic actually stops for them and waits patiently for them to get off the road. Then you have the street vendors with their mobile carts, they too take right of way, crossing the road at anytime and anyplace. I drive a car, I am having to learn patience. I am a scooter driver too, I am becoming a typical Taiwanese driver, but I never use the sidewalk..
If you are a car driver, be careful, thousands of scooters fly past you, weaving in an out of the traffic thinking they should have right of way.
Taiwan is a wealthy, modern country with low taxes and quite a good health system. Government departments are very hard to work with. Taiwan is a country where everything is always done the hard way. If they give you instructions to do something, you will never get the full instructions all at once. and at every step of a process the rules seem to change. Like for example, they say to register a new company, no capital is required. So you seek approval to register a company. They give you approval, but before it becomes official, they tell you to put 20,000 dollars in a bank account. It is not the money that annoys you, it is the feeling of being blackmailed before they hand over the registration approval .
Am I happy here? Yes, very happy.
I had better finish now before I am told this is not a little. I will add to this at a later date.
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Hi Babs. you are right, you do know some of my family.
John and I were best friends from when I was about 6 or 7 years old. right up to the time I left England in 1969.
I made contact with him again around 1980. He even mailed 3 delicious tea bags to me. At that time I had a broken arm and wrist and my girlfriend at the time used to write the letters to him. Then I lost contact again and lost his address, so we have not had contact in over 30 years. I do not recall Tony Caladine ( I may have known him. My memory of names and places is starting to get rather bad), He may have been in John's class. John was a year ahead of me in school.
When you see him again ask him about the little Austin A30 that was his first car. We would go fishing in that car.
I also reminisce about the good times we had on holiday in Perranporth, Cornwall. Although if I remember rightly John had an accident on one of those holidays and had his leg in plaster for most of it.
I do not use facebook. But may I leave my contact info on your PM.
Also I am looking for old photos of my school period from about 1954 to 1962. I went to the original Carlton Central Primary School and Chandos Street Boys School Year 1B, 2B, 3B I left school just before my 15th birthday..
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#21 Hahaha Trevor S, I can see you have as much chance as me returning to the Ferry Inn in the near future.
I lived in Australia for 35 years. Now I am here, I do not know when I may get back. If I do come back I will let you know and maybe we can have a beer together there.