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On 27/03/2018 at 10:19 AM, jonab said:
What seems to be ignored (conveniently) in this McCann saga is the FACT that the parents and their friends left the children alone and unsupervised while they went out on a "jolly". Weren't/aren't there laws covering this? Don't they accept any responsibility? From the little that gets on the news media down here (but I know how big it is in the UK), there seems to be plenty of self-pity but no acceptance of responsibility.
If this had been a working class couple from one of the council estates, the press would have pilloried them and called for a prosecution for child neglect. However as they are a middle class/ professional couple, we are supposed to feel sorry for them and continue to pump money into helping this criminally negligent couple stay in the spotlight. One rule for the haves another for the have nots.
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Pianoman you may be right about the preserved Trent liveried National. In which case if there was a rally/open day at Alfreton depot, then that could well be the location.
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1 hour ago, The Pianoman said:
The picture of the MGO National above is not at Langley Mill. I think Underwood had closed long before NBC had appeared Stand corrected if proved wrong) The red National at the side of it is a Trent one. I feel that the picture is most likely Alfreton depot.
I might be wrong, but I think that the photo of Midland General Leyland National 416 is a little misleading. This particular bus in now in preservation in this livery, and the red one alongside looks to be more like a preserved Midland Red example. Midland Red applied local identity branding (eg Chaserider for services around Cannock chase) on white vinyls above the windows. I cannot recall Trent ever doing this. Therefore, I believe that this picture was taken at a bus rally rather than outside Alfreton depot, but I cannot say where the rally would have been.
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On 05/04/2018 at 3:29 PM, LizzieM said:
A friend of mine (Ian Hallam who will be remembered by the Nottstalgia cycling fans) bought an ex-police car around 1970. I think it was a Ford Escort. The car had a black vinyl roof which concealed the hole where the blue lamp used to be. I remember we were driving through Wollaton Park and the mileage clicked over to 100,000. Funny what obscure memories we hold onto.
Lizzie, Ian Hallam was my dentist for a time in Clifton. I remember him competing in the 1974 Commonwealth Games.
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8 hours ago, IAN123. said:
When i first hopped on this..4p to Moorbridge from Beastmarket Hill.
I still wish I could get my hands on the "bleeders" that torched 370 whilst it was in preservation at Ruddington. Hanging is too good for'em.
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51 minutes ago, IAN123. said:
Thanks, this would have been in the 80's..Siverdale was a nice estate then.
Ian, I can date the picture quite accurately. The Clifton services were numbered into separate series wef 14th June 1980. 41, 46,47,48 via Clifton Bridge, 61A, 67 & 68 via Trent Bridge. The batch of lowheight Leyland Atlantean PDR1/3s, 395-400 (VAU395-400J), were withdrawn in February 1981. So the picture was taken sometime within that period.All bar 397 were exported to Hong Kong. This batch was bought to operate the Clifton services that went via Trent Bridge and had to negotiate the former GCR bridge on Wilford Lane. After this was removed in 1974 these buses were used on either of the routings to Clifton.
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Lost many a ball under Fleetlines, when playing on the Burnside Green roundabout, Bilborough. My Nan lived just up the road on Bracebridge Drive.
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Ian, just for the record, the reg is JTV488E. Also it is Maid Marian, not Maid Marion, drive me up the bleddy wall when Nottinghamians spell it incorrectly.
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Roger, my Dad is Clive Johnson. He was the depot chairman for the TGWU at Trent Bridge from when it re-opened in 1973 until the end of 1975, when he was elected as TGWU branch secretary (5/92 branch) and moved to Parliament Street to work alongside Harry Ball. Dad left NCT in December 1976 to take a full time role with the TGWU in their Burton on Trent office.
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I should imagine that when they were finally taken out of use on the Clifton routes, in I think 1985, Bell Punch had been taken over by Control Systems and they would have no need for these now obsolete machines. Some would therefore have found there way on to the enthusiasts market. I had already obtained my ex Liverpool example by this time.
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1 minute ago, catfan said:
Leyland Atlantean AN68s number series 450 onwards did it for me along with MK1 Leyland Nationals.
Mark Nationals, were too light on the front end to start with and lacked adhesion when steering on damp and greasy roads. 727 was impaled on a lampost by a fitterin these type of conditions. Dad and Harry Ball made representations to have the batteries moved further forward to help overcome this problem.
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Just now, IAN123. said:
Ian, yes that's the one. I couldn't get hold of an NCT one as they were all hired from Bell Punch, London and were returned as services were converted to OMO. However, in later years I manged to purchase an ex Liverpool machine.
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1 minute ago, catfan said:
Incidentally NCT wanted to convert the Renowns for one man operation, converting bus 354 as a trial, I think your dad along with Harry Ball put a stop to that silliness straight away.
Yes, Dad and Harry made it quite clear to both Johnny Wake and Phil Groves that there was no way the TGWU would sanction the use of AEC Renowns on OMO.
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Dad's all time favourites were the AN68 Atlanteans 540-571 which were allocated from new to Trent Bridge. Dad was on the rota that transferred there from Parliament Street when Trent Bridge re-opened in 1973
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Conductors with five barrel Ultimate ticket machines, with the various coloured ticket combinations. Also sadly missed.
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Did the Leyland engines in the Atlanteans, hold there revs longer than the Gardner ones in the Fleetlines, as a passenger this seemed the case to me.
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Dad was never a fan of them. He did some shifts out of Sherwood when they had an allocation of them for the 31/50 in the late sixtes and early seventies, and he said that they always suffered from badly adjusted clutches, which would slip whilst climbing Woodborough Road. He did enjoy driving the two ex WBUDC examples 393/4 which were often to be found on the GEM/ASDA contract to Clifton. These had semi-automatic boxes and in his words were "like driving around in your favourite armchair."
My memories of the AEC Renowns were when they were allocated to Bilborough in 1972, and a fully laden one struggling to climb up Ilkeston Road from Radford Boulevard to Canning Circus one Saturday lunchtime on the 60. The whine from the transmission was something to behold. Having said that they could also fly as you said, particularly when Bilborough used them on the 53 which was limited on setting down and picking up local passengers between Clifton Bridge North and Clifton Estate.
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At least with most NCT semi automatics you couldn' t wreck the gearbox by sitting taking fares with the bus till in gear. The doors were opened by a putting the gear selector into a position on the gate that operated the doors, hence putting the gearbox into neutral. Any driver that slapped through the gears deserved a slap themselves. However, it was not unheard of for certain crews at Bilborough depot to play "The Fleetline Chicken" with passengers in the 1960s ,when Bilborough had an allocation of the early flat front Northern Counties bodied examples.
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NCT AEC Renowns, my all time favourites.
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NCT had some great union officials, who were also proper busman, eg. Harry Ball
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Waddo, the tram is NOTHING to do with NCT. NET is part owned by Trent/Barton. Nottinghamians don't know how lucky they are to have such a comprehensive bus service at fares which are amongst the lowest in the country. NCT fares that is, I appreciate that the fares on Trent/Barton are somewhat more expensive.
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I've always preferred the roundabouts
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Mick, Trent had Leyland Olympians whilst they were still part of the National Bus Company. Once they were privatised via a MBO, Trent's next double deckers were Volvo Citybuses, with underfloor mid-engines. These were the same chassis that NCT had on their fleet numbers 301-346, and also the experimental pair 398/399. Northampton Transport also had a sizeable fleet of these and they were very well liked by the local drivers.
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6 hours ago, jonab said:
Some friends and I used to collect trolley bus tickets. They had a one or two letter start then several digits number. The idea of the collecting was to only collect those with the starting letter(s) the same as a chemical symbol (we were scientists, after all). We were trying to form a complete periodic table. We did manage to collect over fifty elements, though.
Jonab, they would have been Bell Punch Ultimate tickets, and they were also used on the motorbuses. The last ones were finally phased out in 1985 when the Clifton Estate services became one person operated.
Buses in Nottingham
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Could have been a bus rally in Newark. I certainly don't think that these two were in normal service when the photo was taken.