Ayupmeducks
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What did he die of???
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Is there anyone out there who has any knowledge of the colliery that was situated where Blenheim Industrial Estate now is?
My grandad used to be engine winder there in the 1920's I believe and although I cant remember ever seeing any buildings, as kids we used to roam around on the land where it was sited picking up pieces of coal and burn them in our 'winter warmers'. Mother used to refer to the pit as Shonki and they had a 'company' house that must have gone with the job - namely Blenheim House which is still on site next to Lime Kilns Total filling station.
I'd heard of that pit when I was serving my apprenticeship for Lord Robens in the 60's. There used to be a footpath from very close to the bus terminus at Bullwell that went all the way through to Hucknall number 1 pit, at that time our training centre. If my memory recalls correctly, someone told me it was off that footpath towards the Bullwell end.
The reason I know of the footpath was to save money, just a short walk along it, save half our bus fare, all paid for by my benevolent employer the NCB!
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My Late Dad worked at Chilwell Depot as a civilian driver during the latter part of WW2. He was unfit for military service, so learned to drive at the depot and worked as a driver for them. From there he worked as a bread delivery driver for Prices bakery and Co-op bakery, milk man for the Co-op and then went driving trucks for many years.
Parazone of Colwick being one company and Gurney's of Carlton being another one, ending up driving for Bartons Transport of Chilwell!!
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Me? I'm as fick as two short planks
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PS, I used to have a crush on Agar's daughter Jennifer
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I come from St Ann's, Simkim st hey lad meduk..
Don't recall that street Den, then it was a big area..
I went to Blue Bell Hill infants and junior schools then on to Huntingdon Sec school.
I was brought up in Kings Lynn Terrace off Turner Street, then when I was about 12, my Mum got the job as Manageress at the Lady Bay dry cleaners, which had just moved from the bottom of Blue Bell Hill, across the road to Alfred Street South, opposite Agars green grocer's shop.
Many years later I worked with old man Agar at Cotgrave Colliery!!
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No, but the support wire is still there though, note the single light fitting hanging over the road. Suggests after the trolly bus lines were removed.
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Try this site Mick for more info on Nottm and the enclosure act.
http://www.nottinghamcity.gov.uk/sitemap/c...and_education_2
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The houses around Hawthorne and Briar Streets in the old Meadows were built by the Clifton Colliery Company to house their employess BTW.
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Ahh! Interesting stuff John.
I thought these blocks were built in that fashion to'Enclose' peasants such a myself.
Of course the history of Coal Mining in this country is an interesting topic in itself.
But what is interesting to me is the developement and decline in mining communities.
And no Caz, I aint ashamed of my background.
It makes one more appreciative of what one has today.
EG our young one stated she did not want to spend Christmas in Los Amgeles/Las Vegas, preferring to play with the kid next door. The kids today are spoiled and maybe a bit of what we had when we were younger, would make them appreciate todays lifestyle more. Another Subject?
Just as a pointer for you Mick, although coal had been mined in Notts and Nottm area for many centuries, we never really had a coal industry as such until the early to mid 19th century! So we never had coal communities like Durham, the South Wales Valley's or Northumberland and Yorkshire.
The first "deep pit" in the Notts coalfield was probably Cinderhill/Babbington, then the Wollaton Collieries, ie Wollaton and Radford, then the Leen Valley pits around Eastwood and Hucknall.
So The Notts coalfield didn't have the community roots of the earlier deep mined coalfields of South Wales and such.
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Thanks for that
The enclosure act, search results in farming?
I've never tried Mick, but essentially the enclosure act made land owners enclose their pasture with hedgegrows, thats why British countryside is like it is today. Large parts of what is now St Anns couldn't be subdivided due to the enclosure act. Nottm was surrounded by pasture and farmland and couldn't grow in the 1800's. The landowners being coal miners too, had nowhere to house their colliers and weren't allowed to build houses due to that act.
Sure try a search, might clarify further what I've posted.
On one of the old maps in that book about Nottm are superimposed the old bounderies, which were St Anns Well Road, Gordon Road, St Mathias Road and Carlton road, there are more, but my memories not that good and it's been a few years since I looked at the book Mick.
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I would be interested in any images of those buildings.
Gas street lighting remained in The Park Estate untill recent years.
There might even be some left there now?
Your going to have to wait until I get the boxes out and sort my books out Mick.
Plenty of maps of the "enclosure" system and how it kept Nottm from expanding until Parliament repealed the enclosure act.
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B) I've done it again Ilko gave you too much information...
:D To tell you the truth when me mum showed me the picture i had no clue who he was until she told me...Then i had to do some research to give you those clues..
When me mum told me that her and her dad use to listen to the fights comming live from America on the radio in the early hours of the morning i was gob smacked. Never new me mum was interested in Boxing or her dad was, all this in the 30s..just shows that you never really know your parients until something like this crops up.... :D :o That web site is the same one i used for the info gathering....
Sorry to burst your bubble Den, but they couldn't have listened to live matches over the radio from the States them days.
Takes me back to when I was a junior at Blue Bell Hill Junior school. The teachers would leave the Redifusion speakers in the halls at lunchtime so as we could listen to the Ashes matches "live" from Australia...Hmmmm yeh... they knew how to use "sound effects!!
It wasn't until the 1970's that real live broadcast were possible across the globe.
I watched a short, the first, live broadcast in the 70's from the USA to the UK and Europe. Eurovision song contest??? via Telstar?? which wasn't a geosyncrynus satellite, so they only had about a half an hour window.
There could be one possiblilty of hearing a match though Den, shortwave radio IF the sunspot cycle is right!
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Well Caz, What I can say is at least the houses were built propper, even if they didn't have a bog.
In fact I lved in some worse houses than those in the meadows. In Birmingham I remember living in a block of buildings built in a square with a central yard where the tap was located in the middle, where you collected water for cooking and washing. I cant remember much about the buildings themselves except the cold.
I just remember living in a terraced house in Lincoln, that had Gas mantle lighting.
You had to be carefull you did not poke the mantle with the match, or it would break, and all you would get was a flame.
There were many places in Nottingham built around a square Mick when my parents were growing up. Thank God they were long gone while I was growing up.
Somewhere I have a book about Nottm showing some of them places, most were out on Manvers Street area and Lower Marsh area. Because there was so much disease among those dwellers out there, those places went in the late 20s into the 30's.
I remember the streets in St Anns having gas lighting, even a couple of house's in the terrace I lived in off Turner Street having gas lights.
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Jimmy Clitheroe was my favorite,I was so surprised when I eventually saw him & he was a grown man.
We had a bloke at British Gypsum, the mines resident comedian who told me once he lived in the same village as Jimmy Clitheroe at one time. He said he nearly smacked the conceted little dickhead in the village pub. He told me he had never met anyone so conceted as Jimmy Clitheroe.
Don't say much for the little feller off stage does it?
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Didnt make it again, I asked the local Innkeeper at Omeo how far away it was & he said at least 17 kms, well as I was working I decided 17kms was too far to go, so missed out again,but they did reckon the wine was good so must make a special effort next time Dugh!!
Where did you get the old map Den?? the place we live is right off the map !!
By the way Ayup forgot to ask how you & your cousin eneded up living in Oz,did you migrate together??
Shame on yer Caz, they hailed from Carlton, he used to live near Prices Bakery.
They were ten quid tourists in the 60's Caz.
I migrated there in 1979, so they were well set when I arrived, and I had to pay full air fare, they got the scenic cruise treatment.
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I used to own 40 acres behind there, three gold mines and a hill.
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Just incase you get lost caz here's a map...
Driven around most of those roads Den, my cousins winery is at Cassilus, just south of Omeo, in fact my cousins winery IS Cassilus
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That takes me back a fair few years Rob, just up the road a little was my old pit.
The bus is just about level with the entrance to the Embankment and looks like the feller who was shooting the bus was standing at the entrance to the toll bridge.
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What can you tell us about him
Where did he start?
Isn't that Frankie Vaughn???
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Them Yorkies 'ul nick owt, even the way we speak
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We are off to Omeo tomorrow will try & see if we can pop in, not sure how pressed for time we will be though I will let you know tomorrow Ayup.
Ten minutes down the back road and your at the winery Caz. Say hello to my Cuz Howard and his wife Christine for me and tell them their John sent you, they'll probably shoot you then..
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From memory:
38: POST OFFICE SQUARE CARLTON TO CITY CENTRE
39: POST OFFICE SQUARE CARLTON TO CROWN ISLAND ILKESTON RD
40: WELLS ROAD TO WILFORD TOLL BRIDGE VIA ARKWRIGHT ST
45: TRENT BRIDGE TO MIDDLETON BLVD VIA DERBY RD
47: WELLS ROAD TO CITY CENTRE
Correction Bamber, 40 never went via Arkwright St at all, it turned off at the "Fountain car park", turned on Canal St and turned up Wilford Rd. I rode that many times, and I'm sure the 47 went to the Toll Bridge too, used to live down Briar St so got off the bus at Bosworth Rd or just sat and went the next stop to the terminus.
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I've got loads of vinyl I'd like to digitise.
Most of it Soul music, some very rare.
However, The above emporium, I have been able obtain 70's Rock albums like new, for less than $1, usually 29-49c. I could never afford them in the 70's.
I used to buy an LP every other week in the 60's, I still have a copy of Sgt Peppers from when it was first released plus a double EP of Magical Mystery Tour when that was first released!
GREAT records of the 60's 70's 80's
in Nick Palmer's Nottstalgia General Music Chat.
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