Cliff Ton
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I was told that Nottingham at one time had two morning newspapers, two evening papers and also two football papers on a Saturday. I'm not sure how accurate that is though.
Weird coincidence, I was just looking at that subject when you posted.
In an old guide to Nottingham from the 1920 which I have, it says there were "Four dailies - Express, Evening News, Guardian, and Evening Post; and two weeklies, the Guardian and the Express"
In a similar publication from the 1940s there was "Morning - Nottingham Guardian and Nottingham Journal; Evening - Nottingham Evening News and Nottingham Evening Post; and weekly - Nottingham Weekly Guardian"
Helluva lot of reading
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I'm not sure of the building's very early history but I know something of its more recent past.
Back in the early 1960s and before, there were two evening papers in Nottingham, the Evening Post and the Evening News. The Post was printed in Forman Street near Trinity Square (all gone now) and the Evening News was printed in the Express Buildings.
Some time in the 60s the two papers merged, although it was really a takeover by the Post. For a while the paper operated as the "Evening Post and News" but before long the "News" bit was quietly dropped.
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They still exist, but they are now based in Bulwell
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back to the topic question, gone back to my earlier guess of hucknall rd nr the prison
You can almost count the same lines in the rockface
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Proof will come only when an old photo shows up showing Edwards Lane from the opposite direction.
That's made me realise that I've seen quite a few old photos from the direction of your Streetview picture, but I've never seen one from the other side.
Even this http://www.pictureth...009757&prevUrl= which I hadn't seen before, doesn't help much.
Just Been looking at this photo, I wonder if this IS mansfield road, onlooking towards arnold and sherwood..he roads in the picture shows it going downhill from the sandstoney bit just like mansfield road does as you pass the bridge.. it goes down hill till you get to the ram pub.. That road is also very strait if you think about it.. like in the photo? opinions??
As several people had mentioned earlier, that photo doesn't fit Mansfield Road from the Redhill bridge. From the bridge going southwards, the road makes a considerable long curve to the west. Look on any map or Streetview and the road definitely isn't the straight line shown in the photo.
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This throws a cat among the pigeons.
This photo on Picture the Past http://www.pictureth...001556&prevUrl= is the closest I know to showing George Parker's paper shop. But the PTP description says that he also owned the transport cafe opposite the Clifton Bridge Inn (ie the one we are talking about). May be true, but I wonder where they got their information from.
Bearing in mind the Neilson thread and "do we believe what we read".......
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Just read the old posts about the cafe on wilford road. Dad always told me that George Parker owned it, the same guy that ran the newsagents at the bottom shops in Clifton.
I remember George Parker very well - we lived only a couple of roads away from his shop which was on Sandham Walk and I've been in there hundreds of times.
I've not heard the one about him owning the cafe on Wilford Road, although you might well be correct. A possible explanation is that George P had a bungalow built in the early 1960s just behind that cafe, below the curve of the early Clifton Bridge. When the bridge was enlarged in the early 70s his bungalow was demolished so it only had a life of about 10 years. I don't know where he moved to after that.
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No, no assumption that Wiki etc. comprises the 'truth' here. Just someone's account of the 'truth'.
Totally agree. Wiki is definitely useful and I've used it hundreds of times, but whenever I come across one of those pages which has the message across the top about "this topic needs verification...it has been written like a press release...citations needed...etc etc" I wonder how many people pay attention to that bit.
('Cause the Elvis page makes no reference to Rainworth)
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Interesting........ the whole subject of people seeing something written down and then assuming it is accurate and true.
Not just this topic but probably many others as well, you could find different "facts" everywhere you look.
There's an assumption that if something falls into the category of....."I read it in the paper/saw it on the telly/it says so on Wikipedia/it was on the BBC website/a bloke in the local says..." then it must be true.
So maybe Elvis isn't dead; he's living in Mansfield Woodhouse (or Rainworth) with Shergar in his back garden. The press got it wrong.
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That's my problem.... we had a copper, but I wasn't old enough to understand exactly what it did or how it did it, so I can't remember how it was powered or how it worked
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How about a Mangle do you still have them ?
I have a dolly tub in the garage but no ponch.
I can remember my grandma in Radford had a mangle, dolly tub and ponch. I was fascinated by watching her using the ponch because I could never work out exactly what it was for or what it did.
On the subject of washing equipment, in my early days at Clifton before having a washing machine we had a copper in which to do the washing. Nothing to do with the police; a large cylindrical thing, like a very primitive washing machine. I can't really remember much of what it looked like but I found this http://murfomurf.fil...lymp-copper.jpg which I think is farily similar
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Lenton Times have quite a few photos of the Prince of Wales' hideaway http://www.lentontim.../grove_farm.htm
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Been doing a lot of it over the past year so I'll tell you what I've learned. Apologies if I tell you stuff you already know
All the online census websites will charge you to access them (beyond some very basic details); so first thing to decide is whether you are happy to pay for it.
The exception is FreeBMD.co.uk which is what it says. It only deals with Births, Marriages, and Deaths. You get the dates and the area the event happened, but no addresses. It's free, but it's run voluntarily by transcribers who are constantly adding to its database. So if you are searching for a particular name you may not find it simply because the transcribers haven't got round to that one yet. But I've found a lot of info from it and it's definitely worth using.
If you are a member of Nottm City Libraries you can get 1 hour a week free access (or pay £1 for additional hours) to Findmypast.co.uk which is a fully-fledged census website. It's good and I've spent hours in the library on it. Notts County Council have a similar scheme but the take you to Ancestry.co.uk which I don't like. It's the same info but the way they present it isn't as good or clear. I don't bother with them any more.
And if you just want to look at electoral registers to find who lived where, you can go to the County Archives and go through every street in Nottingham since the beginning of time. That's free too.
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It says 1952, which fits with the parked cars.
I don't remember these places either, but '52 is before I appeared on the planet so I have an excuse.
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This shows a couple of places I don't think have been mentioned before. This is Milton Street, facing the bottom end of Trinity Square; Victoria Hotel and Station would be just off to the left
I assume the Marsden's place is connected to the grocery shop people.
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Unfortunately he fell victim to the curse of Lenton Lane; he made a series there for Central in the early 90s and hasn't had another TV series since.
Pity because he was good and - unusual these days - unique. Who else have you ever seen who could do that Stingray thing?
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When I was a fairly young kid, the brakes on my bike were making a lot of noise; every time I slowed down or stopped there was an almighty screeching and squealing from the brake pads on the wheels.
So I put some oil on the wheel rims...............
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where did the trains from this line go before the advent of the Great Central?. Did they go via Daybrook and Gedling etc to the Low Level station?
Correct, before the GC was built the trains went via Daybrook and Gedling.......although for a time (1890s to WW1) it would also have been possible to travel via the Suburban Line through Sherwood, Thorneywood, and St Anns.
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I think it's one of those bridges which in the railway world is called an "occupation bridge". They were for farmers to get their carts and animals from one side of the line to the other when the railway split their fields and land. The railway companies had to provide them as compensation for making a mess of the farmer's land
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Looking at the original map again, I noticed another now-vanished big old house in the area.
Daybrook Vale (the house) and Daybrook Vale Farm have been mentioned, but on the right edge is Daybrook House - near the junction of what is now Thackerays Lane. Looking at Old Maps it seems to have disappeared sometime between 1919 and 1938. Never heard of it before, and Pic the Past don't have anything on it
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All these posts over a little brook...
Absolutely .... and I wonder how many people know it even exists, including those who live in the nearby area.
Until today I was only aware of the stretch along Valley Road and I'd never thought about where it comes from or goes to.
So today I've learned it connects with the Leen at Basford - but where does it end up in the opposite direction? Looking on maps I can only track it as far as it appears to go into the lake at Arnot Hill Park
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Whatever website i use to look at the census.. they try and charge me!
If you join the Nottm City Council libraries you can get 1 hour a week free on Findmypast.co.uk which you would otherwise have to pay for. I've been using that for the past year or so, and discovered quite a lot.
And like you I've found relatives who appear in one census, disappear in the next, and then reappear in the next one
I do believe some of the transcibing was outsourced to India, I say no more!
I think that explains most of the occasions where I've got stuck or lost
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Map from approx 1901, with a bit of highlighting by me
The big one is the Leen, and Day Brook is the one coming in from the right. Extend that a bit further and you are nearly at Valley Road
Express Buildings Upper parliament Street
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The Elite Building?....which started life as the Elite Cinema
denshaw beat me to it