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5 minutes ago, DJ360 said:
Yes, no wonder you 'wink', because as I keep saying there is no, zero, nada, zilch info on who donates. I rest my case.
Ah right... you have a down on who contributes:
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Our policy is to leave it to our funders to decide whether to disclose their support. Many do choose to do so, which we welcome. For example, Jersey Finance contributed towards our programme on offshore financial centres (publicised here), and historically our work on the NHS has been funded by the John Templeton Foundation (publicised here).
Much of our funding from businesses also takes the form of sponsorship of events or competitions, and payments for attending conferences – activities, open to the public, that are visibly transparent for that reason.
The IEA programme at the 2021 Conservative Party Conference included events sponsored by RSSB and Pernod Ricard.
We respect the privacy rights of donors to donate to charity without being publicly identified. Reasons for privacy rest with donors but include modesty, personal security, or a desire to avoid being aggressively targeted for donations by other organisations.
In a free society people should be free to associate with whomever they like and back any cause, without fear or favour. This has been widely recognised as a bedrock of democracy, both in the UK, the EU, and elsewhere
But I don't expect you believe word of of it. your long standing misunderstanding and dislike of the organisation will prevent you doing so...
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1 minute ago, DJ360 said:
A mission has overtones of righteousness. As opposed to an 'objective', which has no such associations and iI think more properly reflects the objectives of the IEA.
I always thought them pretentious but a mission statement was virtually de rigueur in the 90's for every company bigger than a hotdog stand. The fact you don't like the way they use the word is largely irrelevant and doesn't make it less of a mission.
7 minutes ago, DJ360 said:Where did I say there was? You raised members fees, not I
No you did by referring to members paying with their expenses. Some thing all MPs can do and claim it as tax deductible.
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4 minutes ago, DJ360 said:
Political donations, clearly a grey area. Any UK charity, is permitted to campaign “for a change in the law, policy or decisions where such change would support the charity’s aims”, where such a campaign “must not be the continuing and sole activity of the charity”.
but the RSPB started years ago... and how many popping money in the rattle tin know where the money goes?
and you'd be quite happy for Eton to donate to the Tory party
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29 minutes ago, DJ360 said:
Apart from a few 'officers', you can say virtually nothing about who are members, donors etc., of the IEA, and they do not admit to their lobbying activities, despite having been caught in the act.
There go Col, dip yer bread...
We publish our trustees reports and audited financial statements on the Charity Commission website and they are also available via Companies House. Our latest accounts show an income in 2022/23 of a little over £2.3 million.
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Why not use the Fergie?
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7 minutes ago, DJ360 said:
What you are completely missing is that both of the above make no secret of their political affiliations and objectives, their methods, their members and especially their donors.
And your missing my point they all use the ambiguous corporate speak. High level language that doesn't actually say anything, Corbyn was a master.
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A mission statement (a bit out of fashion now days) is just that, you can't say it's called a mission but it isn't really, if they say it is then that's exactly what it is and arguing semantics won't change it.
Tax deductible members fees are an attraction to all parties and gives the recipient not only the fee but also a tax rebate, nothing untoward there
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39 minutes ago, DJ360 said:
Who's failing to recognise AS?
Most media for fear of the backlash.
Who's claiming extermination? Who is using the highly emotive term genocide?... well that would Hamas, and Hezbollah (who are quietly hoping the IDF destroy Hamas and they can fill the power vacuum),. Hamas the people who openly declare they want Israel wiped of the map, the ones who started this mess. And yet one picture of an old lady crying in the ruin of her and it's the fault of the jews.
This really can be solved very easily. All the authorise in Gaza need to is extradite those responsible and let the law take it's course. show the world a civilised Palestine.
4 minutes ago, DJ360 said:There is Tory Policy and propaganda behind every organisation/entity Murphy lists.
Perhaps Mr RSPB shouldn't mix charity with political donations i.e to the Fabians. I imagine £13000+ would buy a lot of bird boxes. I imagine it's the same story for all the other charities . Do you suppose the people who give to charity realise and agree to their money being used for political purpose's?
I suppose Murphy missed or chose to ignore these little factoids. but hey it's only an old British value gone down the tubes for political gain.
You're not too sure about the benefits of independent schools being of benefit to society and therefore not qualified for charity status, but expect HMG to turn a blind eye to (several), recognised charities financing political organisations...
In the grand scheme of things libraries have had their day and have little real support for the public. It's a nice pipe dream to sit in a quiet space and read or find information, but they are expensive, not easily accessed and restricted by opening hours. Some here are no doubt regular users but what I'm reasonably sure it's a very small percentage. In todays hard times it's a pity but I'd be inclined to close those with least patronage and look to an online service.
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3 hours ago, DJ360 said:
Our objective is to convince you that an unregulated free market and a compliant Parliament will make you better off, but we don't actually believe that claptrap any more than you do, so we have to spend lots of our anonymous donors' money on 'Research' to 'Educate'(.a.k.a. Lobbying) our useful idiots and our target Politicians into accepting that Black is White.
You're on a roll there Col with a good old fashioned far left rant and interpretation of what you yourself admitted is a fairly innocuous mission statement.
It's perhaps worth pointing out membership fees are tax deductible.
And by contrast the latest Labour think tank, Labour Together, came up with this:
"Labour Together is a think tank offering bold ideas for Britain under a Labour government".
Which actually translates as "We don't publish what they are because we haven't actually thought of any yet, and we don't talk about Northern Ireland because we hope they just go away.
The Fabians:
We are a left-leaning think tank dedicated to new public policy and political ideas
We are a membership movement, active throughout Britain and open to everyone on the left
We are a democratically governed socialist society, a Labour affiliate and one of the party’s original founders
We champion and celebrate Fabianism, the belief that radical long-term goals are best advanced through empirical, practical, gradual reform views
We don’t have organisational policy, and instead embrace debate and difference
We don’t have organisational policy, in fact we don't have much of anything really. We didn't really mean the bit about debate and difference. it only applies to those far enough on the left who will agree with us. We will brook no opposition to our aims and policies - the moment we have any.
We're also member's of Foundation for European Progressive Studies, but we don't talk about that.
Those who wish to celebrate Fabianism through gradual reform (a.k.a virtually non at all), are welcome to join us on the fence, we have plenty of room so long as you don't mention Blair , Brown or Corbyn.
Funding? half the shadow cabinet plus Starmer are members. lots of unions, a least five charities, (?) one big pharma company plus a couple of banks.
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1 hour ago, DJ360 said:
'm pretty sure that if there was serious disorder on the streets..especially the streets of London, I'd have heard about it. I haven't.
Who said anything about disorder? My point is the size, scope and cost of the Gaza protest has a degree of 'professionalism' not seen at other such protests.
At least one of the leaders is known to have associations with Hamas which leas onto my point, failure to recognise antisemitism as a driving force is naïve.
1 hour ago, DJ360 said:I seem to recall you agreeing with that sentiment not so long ago.
I did and i do. i even went to the protest in Nottingham - the turn out was pathetic.
1 hour ago, DJ360 said:Murphy simply highlighted numerous traits and policies which are DEMONSTRABLY Tory values in an attempt to show what the Tories really represent.
His rant on British Values is nonsense. What have a disagreement with EU green Deal got to do with being British? or speed limits, or proportional representation? Sounds more like a list of his per peeves.
Exactly which Tory policy disparages or denigrates members of the Royal Society for the Protection of Birds, or Oxfam, or Libraries, or , or ,or ,or..............
Are the Tories supposed to dislike The National Trust because it was started by social reformers?
Surprisingly some i agree with but when he strays into the realms of fantasy with his metaphorical shotgun he rather loses credence with me.
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And an excellent writer too...
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4 hours ago, philmayfield said:
It’s not the first time I had this problem but I feel a bit silly for pushing my luck near the swampy bits.
Didn't dear old Albert define insanity as doing the same thing more than once and expecting a different result?
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24 minutes ago, IAN FINN said:
he wife will let me know if they are in the wrong place
It's no good telling me now it's best done under supervision is it!!!??
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I have long admired young trogg for his devotion to washing, ironing and all things domestic. Today in homage to my hero I emptied the dishwasher and put it all away. It's the first time doing so since the kitchen refurbishment was completed and apparently I stowed everything in the wrong place, even the cutlery.
Far from earning brownie points I'm in the doghouse as "even and idiot couldn't get it wrong".
Not sure if I should demote trogg for setting a bad example or promote him to superstar
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2 hours ago, DJ360 said:
Murphy employs a written version of a 'Scatter Diagram', plotting opinions, policies and attitudes and assigning them more or less to the left or the right.
I can't, as you'd expect, agree, I don't think he does anything of the sort.
Marshall is not unintelligent and an experienced author on some complex topics. Had he meant to create a word based scatter diagram I'm sure he would have said do so in order that we of the great unwashed would belter understand it.
To my mind it was so woolly you have constructed the scatter map theory to aid yourself in interpreting it, it's the only way it makes sense to you. Try to see it as we see it. no added bells and whistles, no unnecessary interpretations, see it for what it is and give him credit for writing exactly what he meant to write.
I don't know if he was trying to be satirical, he failed if he was.
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5 minutes ago, Alpha said:
It might also act as a deterrent against committing crime in the first place.
It might, it might not, It's quite difficult to prove either way. ProCon (US), claim each execution prevents between 3 to 18 murders, Amnesty International claim there is no effect .
The methodologies both use for proving their case is at best 'iffy', in both cases they quote from the U.S.
We know we can't prove a negative so that only leaves historical facts, number of past executions v present day murders which cannot allow for changes in society. Any correlation between the two will always be flawed which probably explains why there are endless arguments about it. Capital punishment is supposed to serve two purposes. deterrence and retribution. We can only say for certain it achieves one of those.
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20 minutes ago, DJ360 said:
Fruedian exception or a deliberate skewing of the debate
Moi !? Never...
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2 hours ago, letsavagoo said:
So I can express an opinion (if it’s legal that is) but you’re not sure it’s a ‘right’ to do so. So I withdraw saying ‘have the right’ and say instead ‘should’ reply or ‘must’ reply or whatever term you like.
Let me explain my pedantry, a 'right' is something enshrined in law. Nottstalgia is privately owned, privately financed and administered by a small group of private individuals so we post only by their good offices and You can use whatever term you like.
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In my opinion the list is total nonsense, I thought I'd made that clear earlier. The 'academic treatise/claptrap' comment is merely to demonstrate the breadth of postings we see.
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2 hours ago, letsavagoo said:6 hours ago, Brew said:
I said I’m not a fan of it. I have accepted it and the reason it exists. I didn’t say or suggest banning it so you telling me that the people of Nottingham are free to express their opinion is misplaced and unnecessary as I didn’t suggest otherwise.
Even with the best will in the world Lets your comment was by implication disparaging, and that's fine if it's your opinion on the political thread.
Not sure anyone has a 'right' but we can express our opinions on NS, even the ones decrying political commentary - the same applies to replies.
Whether it's left wing claptrap or an academic treatise we can express an opinion so long as it's legal. Then we're free to read, reply or ignore.
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Interesting but not to sure about corrupt. Undoubted some were but I would hazard a guess most were simply of their time.
Reading Dickens, Pepys or Trollope etc. even the good guys would not stand up to modern mores and attitudes.
It's easy to condemn over the passage of time, especially from a socialist viewpoint, but judging the societal norms of almost 200 hundred years ago is always going to appear scandalous from wherever you stand.
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I think mick2me even had a politic thread right back at the start...
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4 hours ago, DJ360 said:
Sunak is attempting to re-frame largely peaceful protests around Gaza as an 'attack on Democracy', when it is plain to me that the real threat to democracy is this increasingly repressive and increasingly Far Right Govt.
As someone who sees dark forces at play and conspiracy theories I'm surprised you cannot see behind the Gaza protests. Do you truly believe they are spontaneous expressions of popular protests?
To my mind they are simply too big, too well organised and must cost far more than any protest movement of the modern era.
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2 hours ago, letsavagoo said:
I’m no fan of the political thread on what is a NOTSTALGIA site and this typifies why.
It's been said before, many times, that pure Notts content would have seen the site run out steam long ago.
What are the Notts topic?
Music - no
Yu tube clips - no
word games- no
Buses, trucks planes and automobiles, etc. etc. ................. no no no
What irks you about politics is the fact you hold your own views and when challenged, or you disagree with the post you, don't like it,(as with some others).
Occasionally you can't resist and make some quite relevant posts, but if the topic is such an anathema, why?
The people of Notts have opinions on everything under the sun and are free to express them here and elsewhere as and when they choose. We even have a topic on quantum ttheory!
Like a famous newspaper once said "all human life is here". You don't like it - don't read it.
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37 minutes ago, DJ360 said:
But, just what are those values? Based upon careful consideration of his governments, comments, conduct and legislation, it would seem that they include:
Apart from missing out walking on the grass, parking charges and potholes what is he actually saying? That these things are wrong? That these are things we as a nation should be ashamed of? That the right to a roof over our heads ranks alongside speed limits?
You're right i think it's a diatribe, a mishmash of a list that claims intolerance of the arts. theatre and the NHS among other things - by whom? I'm surprised you haven't challenged him for evidence as I'm sure you would had he been a Tory.
It's a wishlist of a wannbe radical who from a very comfortable life style does little more than pander to those less articulate and feel disenchanted with life who will cheer him from the sidelines whilst he snipes at the establishment.
He's the balm that soothes their frustrations and desire to be part of something greater than they are.
Does he offer one word, one single suggestion of a solution to any anything at all? no - and then has the temerity to ask for money.
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1 hour ago, DJ360 said:
I very much doubt he'll survive the next election, but it makes little difference eitherway.
A big question for me is not only Gallaway being elected but elected by whom and why, where does his support come from?
The main plank of his policy seems to be Gaza, - why? What does he think he can do about it. With a high Muslim count in Rochdale did Gaza hold any sway within their community?
Is there an unspoken but growing antisemite trend among voters? Delicate questions, but worth a thought and Galloway has been sacked for antisemitic broadcasts.
Did the dumping of the Labour candidate bring about a backlash?
One thing we can't do is ignore him, he has the wit, the ambition plus £millions, and he can't be thrown out of the chamber by his boss.
59 minutes ago, DJ360 said:Rishi Sunak is standing outside Downing Street saying that the newly chosen MP
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