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37 minutes ago, DJ360 said:
But, just what are those values? Based upon careful consideration of his governments, comments, conduct and legislation, it would seem that they include:
Apart from missing out walking on the grass, parking charges and potholes what is he actually saying? That these things are wrong? That these are things we as a nation should be ashamed of? That the right to a roof over our heads ranks alongside speed limits?
You're right i think it's a diatribe, a mishmash of a list that claims intolerance of the arts. theatre and the NHS among other things - by whom? I'm surprised you haven't challenged him for evidence as I'm sure you would had he been a Tory.
It's a wishlist of a wannbe radical who from a very comfortable life style does little more than pander to those less articulate and feel disenchanted with life who will cheer him from the sidelines whilst he snipes at the establishment.
He's the balm that soothes their frustrations and desire to be part of something greater than they are.
Does he offer one word, one single suggestion of a solution to any anything at all? no - and then has the temerity to ask for money.
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1 hour ago, DJ360 said:
I very much doubt he'll survive the next election, but it makes little difference eitherway.
A big question for me is not only Gallaway being elected but elected by whom and why, where does his support come from?
The main plank of his policy seems to be Gaza, - why? What does he think he can do about it. With a high Muslim count in Rochdale did Gaza hold any sway within their community?
Is there an unspoken but growing antisemite trend among voters? Delicate questions, but worth a thought and Galloway has been sacked for antisemitic broadcasts.
Did the dumping of the Labour candidate bring about a backlash?
One thing we can't do is ignore him, he has the wit, the ambition plus £millions, and he can't be thrown out of the chamber by his boss.
59 minutes ago, DJ360 said:Rishi Sunak is standing outside Downing Street saying that the newly chosen MP
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Philistine that I am I had to look that up, I've heard of it, but never seen or eaten it. Looks like fish pie to me..
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I was going to say I've never seen fluffy chips, at least to when sober...
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Ewww day old chips...
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And the prize for longest post goes to...
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And from the rise of the right to the rise of the radical...
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It's a shambles of half arsed rhetoric.
It starts with a somewhat arrogant and slightly hysterical piece by Ashworth (L) Which leads the site admin to say:
"The Conservative Party now find themselves nothing left to sell but the visceral racism and manufactured division of fascism wrapped up in any number of crackpot conspiracy theories"
A quote which in itself is to my mind a crackpot theory.
The Truss/Bannon set is so far out I had to check if it's true, it is, and it's amazing they can spew this garbage with a straight face.
Bannon led her by the nose throughout cutting across her with leading questions and comments. We should be grateful and count out blessings she was thrown out on her ear. I'm sure she needs professional help.
But it worries me more she was elected in the first place.
One comment I sort of agree with is the failure of the left and centre left (though not only those), to present a decent, strong opposition and viable alternatives over a long period of time; a sentiment that didn't go down well with other members who presented entirely irrelevant facts in arguments that amounted to a typical left leaning "it's never our fault"
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"Brilliant plan. When fascism rears its ugly head, instead of resisting, blame the left, thus playing into the fascist's narrative."
We can hardly expect the far right to object, he seems to think the left is exempt, so does he expected that only the centre right to do the resisting? Does he not realise the right is rising within the ranks of the working class; that the right wing influence has pulled Labour away from the absolutism of the Corbyn/Momentum/Militant eras and produced a watered down barrister to lead them?
I can't really get into the rest, it doesn't challenge the history or the root or the reasons of the rise of the right, they simply accept it is as is before descending into frenzied criticism of the last ten years and present government.
They've simply latched onto a catchy title with which to polish their ego's..
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16 hours ago, LaurenLapinski said:
Sue found me on Facebook and made contact this week after finding this thread by looking up other family members online
I wonder if that's the result of opening up NS to Google or just coincidence.
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7 minutes ago, DJ360 said:
but HP requirements were 'Do-able'.
Col you said 'do-able' and the wider family contributed, good on them.
I can't remember what the requirements were only that a shop in town was to be the sole supplier of uniforms, sportswear etc and they were expensive. With five kids from 11 to 2 it was never going to happen.
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When the kids were pre school a neighbour stated to attend Sunday service, not because she was a Christian but purely so the vicar would endorse her application for the Bluecoat school, it worked too.
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The outcome was not that bad... after all it was you!
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30 minutes ago, benjamin1945 said:
Seems to me that many folk think that because you didnt go to Grammar school you must have failed the 11 plus.........not true.......
That's true in my case Ben but my mam was in floods of tears after reading the demands from Mundella and after much argument with my parents I chose not to go.
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1 minute ago, DJ360 said:
It is a simple fact, that the existence of fee paying Independents allows a 'win' to be purchased by those who can afford to do so.
And if Labour did not have a socialist, almost puritanical one size fits all policy of making everyone fit the same mould, of levelling the playing field by banning grammar schools on the basis of equal opportunity, things may well have turned out differently. But you quite happily say some are more able academically i.e. we are not equal.
You seem to dislike fee paying schools yet you enjoyed a school where parents had to pay considerably more that those of the secondaries. The principle is the same, only the amount varies and it gave you access to a 'win'
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We know what 'woke' was just as we once knew what 'queer' and 'gay' meant.
We have to accept that they now have meaning and connotations entirely different to their origin.
It grates on me when i hear them and refuse to use them any way other than in the proper manner; the same way I refuse to acknowledge or use gender neutral pronouns.
But then again I'm just a dinosaur who never really learned not to pee into the wind.
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I'm not attacking anything I'm merely pointing out that it seems incongruous that you think the private sector are somehow different to the grammar stream in terms of education or status. Nor do I accept criticism of independent schools.
As someone who has gone trough the somewhat esoteric route of grammar, uni and career. You above all of us are in a better position to judge yet I rather think your political persuasions will not let you see the value of private schools.
The left has always frowned on them and even started to dismantle grammar schools in 1965 and in 1998 banned them outright.
The great levelling up of education was in my opinion a great disaster of rounding down through the comprehensive system.
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34 minutes ago, DJ360 said:
In a very real sense, nobody 'passed' or 'failed' the 11 plus. It was a selection process, not an exam. And it also wasn't for life
All very nice and liberal I'm sure but a fail is a fail. You can't un-fail it and whilst people will happily confess to being a grammar school pupil or declare their degree, few will volunteer a failure of anything without a tinge of regret.
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Not really what I said though the post was possibly poorly worded.
The discussion morphed into you alluding that privately educated individuals are perceived by others as better somehow. I said the same applies to Grammar schools and though it my be true that some think it, they really aren't no matter how many times they mention it.
Paying for school does not make anyone better educated nor do grammar schools.
Failure to fund good enough 'Secondary Modern' educational facilities was not the fault of Grammar School pupils.
Hmmm but they were the conduit to university where most of the government comes from, and they make the rules...
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1 hour ago, DJ360 said:
And yet being wealthier does?
C'mon you can do better than that...
And you parents didn't have considerable costs to find?
1 hour ago, DJ360 said:The 11+ was a selection process. A different method with a different purpose.
An inspection report is a flag to do better and is soon remedied. An 11+ failure is for life
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1 hour ago, DJ360 said:
You miss my point entirely. It is not about 'nanny states', or Govt. 'micro management'. It is about haveing effective regulation
Ref; the Apps article on Grenfell ,it's highly critical, well researched and that's fair enough but there is enough there to genuinely criticise without being misleading..
A couple of points:
"Margaret Thatcher’s Building Act 1984 comes into force. This introduces a massive
deregulation of the industry and a system of ‘performance-based’ regulation, sweeping away
300 pages of previously existing codes dating back centuries."How are the scant building regulations that are hundreds of years old relevant in the 20th century? yet he presents it as a bad thing they are rescinded. Maybe he'd like to live in a house built to the same standards as those in the 1700s.
"Grant Shapps, the new housing minister, announces the axeing of the Tenant
Services Authority – a regulator that was established in 2008 with a mandate to police
services to tenants in the social housing sector"Nowhere in the regulations does it include building construction guidelines. It was purely for tenant services, but it sounds awful that the government scrapped it.
"there was a lot of pressure to reduce regulation"
But he doesn't say regulation of what and to believe the government lowered the standard of construction deliberately is nonsense. Did some penny pinching builder cheat? I don't know. Were they aware of the fire risks? I don't know that either. Clearly there is blame here but to lay all on the government is just wrong.
Many industries are regulated and some are quite draconian in their scope yet screw -ups, cock-ups and accidents still happen.
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2 minutes ago, DJ360 said:
However, the elephant in the room is that Grammar Schools were selective on merit.. not on ability to pay. I had no idea I was going to HP until a letter dropped through my letter box. It was not my choice, nor that of my parents. It was determined by what at the time was a progressive system.
Obviously true but does not take away the benefits education brings to both pupil and society.
"Grammar Schools were selective on merit.. not on ability to pay, sorry". Sorry Col but that really comes across as elitist
Being smarter does not give anyone an excuse to pull the ladder up behind them.
Whether you had a choice is irrelevant and you cannot say your parents were not highly delighted and proud that you were apparently doing better than your peers.
You dislike one word pass or fail exams results yet would you not agree the 11+ was pretty much the same.
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3 hours ago, DJ360 said:
Tory policies and mantras and they must bear responsibility for the results.
Not at all it is entirely unreasonable to expect government to monitor the actions of every council decision and also be aware of every transgression by those who should know better. to do so would require a vast increase in the civil service and the cry of nanny state would be deafening.
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3 hours ago, DJ360 said:
Educational charities, like all other charities, must demonstrate they are for the public benefit.
There is little point in educating anyone by any means unless is to the benefit of society as a whole, how its delivered and what cost is irrelevant. Parents who not only support the state system but are also prepared to forego the benefits from the state system must surely be making a greater contribution.
Interesting to note you have blithely ignored my answer to your claim private education is seen as some sort of betterment and superior status. I'm referring of course to the perception attached to grammar school kids and the advantages they have.
In short charitable status depends on the organisation befitting society, to claim schools do not meet that criteria seems strange to say the least.
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It's been said before, many times, that pure Notts content would have seen the site run out steam long ago.
What are the Notts topic?
Music - no
Yu tube clips - no
word games- no
Buses, trucks planes and automobiles, etc. etc. ................. no no no
What irks you about politics is the fact you hold your own views and when challenged, or you disagree with the post you, don't like it,(as with some others).
Occasionally you can't resist and make some quite relevant posts, but if the topic is such an anathema, why?
The people of Notts have opinions on everything under the sun and are free to express them here and elsewhere as and when they choose. We even have a topic on quantum ttheory!
Like a famous newspaper once said "all human life is here". You don't like it - don't read it.