Beefsteak 305 Posted February 12, 2012 Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 Pixie, I wished I'd had your forethought back when I got my first SLR Camera (1978) of even earlier when I had 110 camera. I know what you mean Mick , but back in those days it was no mean feat to be able to afford to process umpeen pictures a week ! i mean work it out , it used to be at least a fiver for a 36 shot film and processing and printing ; I can take 36 shots in one 'burst' now !!. If I'm at an airshow or on a Lincolnshire day out (And the weather is condusive) I can get through a thousand pictures , that would work out at 150 quid (At least) Good old film ain't a patch on what we have now, and lets face it , as long as you back them up, they're never going to fade away ! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mick2me 3,033 Posted February 12, 2012 Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 Your right Ian I had forgotten the inconvenience of film, However Digital still has a long way to go to match the Quality of some of the formats I used at work 6X7mm and 5X4(INCHES). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Beefsteak 305 Posted February 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 Have you tried shooting in RAW yet ? If you look at the detail I've achieved in my 'moon shots' just on jpeg , imagine what can be done on RAW! I'm going to pluck up the courage one day !! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mick2me 3,033 Posted February 12, 2012 Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 I think there maybe some software with the 60d for dealing with RAW. Incidentally, the only computer that I have Photoshop on has the blue screen of death Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Beefsteak 305 Posted February 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 There should be a disk that came with the 60d that has some editing gear on it Failing that you can get a cheapo copy of photoshop 8 off of flea bay for around £20. That does plenty for me , (I'm always finding extra little 'tweeks' in there) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mick2me 3,033 Posted February 12, 2012 Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 I think I might have a copy of PS Elements somewhere? If it will work with windows 7? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Beefsteak 305 Posted February 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 Depends which elements it is ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
loppylugs 8,429 Posted February 12, 2012 Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 My Canon EOS is supposed to do RAW. Never actually tried it as I know the files are BIG. Almost sorry I bought the EOS sometimes. My Canon HV30 video cam shoots HD movies, and can also shoot stills only 3+ mps for the still but seems to look pretty good for most things. I mostly shoot movies these days and can always grab a frame from the video if I want to. Still got my old Canon 35mm cam + Wide angle and 50mm lenses. Can't bring myself to part with it so it gathers dust in the closet. My kids will probably drop it in the bin when I croak. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mick2me 3,033 Posted February 12, 2012 Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 Me to, Canon FD stuff, Earliest body is Ftb(n) latest is A1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Beefsteak 305 Posted February 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 Yup , still got my last Canon film camera too. (Only bought it in around 2003, IMMSC it's only had one proper 'outing' that was to Florida in the following year, and that was only on the 'fully automatic' setting , didn't have a clue about AV , TV etc back then. ) I have been told that the standard 18-55mm kit lens that came with the old film cameras works better on the EOS stuff that I have now. (And I have a bit too !! Canon 400 d, 40 d and the latest aquisition, the 550 d, along with a 18-55mm, 70-300, and the piece de resistance , the 100-400 ISM, US, 4.5. I also have a 200 quid canon video camera (Used about twice, that was a total waste of money. I bought it to film the kids Nativity etc , and of course , because one parent says no , everybody else has to go without , so that's just sat there gathering dust !! (£100 to a good home ) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mick2me 3,033 Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 Amongst various Canon lenses etc, the bodies I have also include EF and AE1, anyone who invented a Digital wafer that would go into a film SLR with the electronics that go in the film compartment would make a fortune. It would not need any connection to the camera as its operation would be controlled by the pulses of light caused by exposure? All these nice cameras obsolete! I don't believe it! http://www.canon.com/camera-museum/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
letsavagoo 963 Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 I used to be very keen on photography and still have a few of my film cameras left but am slowly selling them. All my darkroom gear has now gone too. In fact I just sold my Nikon F2 s yesterday. I still have a mint Nikon 301 which IMHO is a very underrated camera and my old Spotmatic which I will keep. Best of all I have a Linhoff Tech 70 with 3 lens with 6 x 7 and 6 x 9 backs all boxed in a Linhof case. I'll get around to selling it one day but probably a specialist auction is the best place. The funny thing is that I was mad keen on photography when it was film but just have a good digital compact and thats it. Somehow its lost the magic despite the obvious advantages of digital. I have long term health & mobility issues now which stop me getting out and about to take pics which maybe has something to do with it too. I will read the photography threads with interest. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mick2me 3,033 Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 Intrestin' http://blog.blackandwhitefineart.net/2011/01/convert-to-21mp-dslr/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Beefsteak 305 Posted February 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 And there was me (Upon starting to read the article) thinking they had only gone and done your idea !! Ah well we can wait and hope for some one like Sir Clive Sinclair or Lord Sugar to develope it in private then flood the market. Your idea will never be developed by Canon / Nikon et al as they have invested far to much money in all the new fangled gadgitery that we have now. It would be a bit like Gotfried Daimler/ Henry Ford trying to motorize a horse as opposed to the cart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mick2me 3,033 Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 We await Chinese technology. Because cameras were made to fit standard 35mm film and canister. the greatest modification to any camera would be to drill a hole? the main part of it could be attached like a motor drive. Its possible of course that the patent exists but belongs to Nikon or the likes? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
loppylugs 8,429 Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 Did I understand you rightly a few posts back, Mick? Are you saying my Canon FTB lenses would fit the EOS? If so that would be great. I think the stock 50mm lense that came with the FTB is better than the lense which came with the EOS. So true about the digital insert for older SLR film cams. I would have thought somebody could make a pile doing that if they did it well. Probably don't think they would selll enough to make it worthwhile. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mick2me 3,033 Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 The FD lens for the Ftb is breech lock. Wont fit an EOS. You can get an adapter but lose all the lens/body connections. You can also get a reversing ring to use the lens as a makro Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Beefsteak 305 Posted February 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 That was me I think. As far as I know it's true. I heard from a bloke in our local Jessops (camera shop) that, for example, that a 100mm on the old film cameras (Auto focus stuff) would become, roughly, a 125mm and so on! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
loppylugs 8,429 Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 Too bad! It would have been a great lens. Do you find the EOS seems to have a slight tendency to underexpose? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mick2me 3,033 Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 Due to the multiplication factor, Lenses become longer on a digital camera. This is due to the small size of the sensor, and it only uses the centre of the lens elements. This also means you lose out at the wide angle end. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
loppylugs 8,429 Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 Makes sense. There's always a downside I guess. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mick2me 3,033 Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 Canon 5D has a full frame sensor, so no multiplication factor. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
loppylugs 8,429 Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 What do you think about Canon Vs the rest? I've always been very happy with their products. Beefy's vid camera sounds like a great deal, but no doubt uses the PAL system so not really o-k for America. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mick2me 3,033 Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 Always preferred Canon to Nikon. Though the Nikon FM2 I used at work was pretty good. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Beefsteak 305 Posted February 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 I've never used anything but Canon in the 'digital age' before then I had a Chinon Genesis that had a built in 80mm zoom which went all round the world with me. (Till it was nicked when we were burgled!) I never had a problem with that at all. What was good about it was the amount of people who thought it was a video camera , when they were around 700 quid , my Chinon had cost around 80 ...LOL (OK , call me a snob if you like !!) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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