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I think we really need to drop the pretence and recognise that there are party political and wider political forces in play here, even as the virus kills thousands. I'd liken the CV victims to the WW1 infantry who were sacrificed while the bigger political players quite literally played politics. To be fair, you are just as good at using the term 'Socialist' in a pejorative sense. Having socialist sympathies within a democracy is not a crime and in fact demonstrates a real empathy with those less fortunate. It does not imply a 'free ride' for anyone. I'd argue that the Johnsons

Lizzie, my sympathies to your friend, but it's an awkward one. Many of the elderly and infirm may well have had little time left anyway.. but for my part even if Covid-19 only shortened their life by one day we need to know that. We should not be 'masking' the true impact, but nor should we be letting anyone off the hook. We need the true facts. Not the political facts, or the convenient facts, but the true facts.

Lizzie.. why do you single out Sturgeon? They are ALL watching their political backsides. This is , whether we like it or not.. a political issue. I don't much like Sturgeon as a character.. but she is showing more leadership for me than Johnson is.

No. I said at the outset that Govt were pretending to manage a public health crisis but were actually trying to manage a political situation. They are still doing so. In a situation like this we need not only a 'nanny' but a Sgt Major. Johnson is neither. You know very well that I have never had any faith in Johnson and he has lived down to my expectations.

Don't know if he 'came up with' it, or just latched onto it.. ( He is seemingly a eugenicist) but it wasn't him who pronounced on it. It never is with creeps like him. It was a Govt. Adviser/NHS 'top bod' or someone who actually talked about 'flattening the curve' and actually used the words 'not suppressing the virus completely.. but letting it spread in a controlled way to create a sort of 'herd immunity'. This was done on Johnson's watch. As some President of the USA said when they still had a credible political system.. 'The Buck Stops Here'.

Johnson.. as ever, was long on rhetoric and short on detail. Far too many vague grey areas and far too much waffle. Workplaces will be confused, shcool is up in the air, and many will just choose.. as they already have.. to do as they bloody well like. The country needs clear leadership.. not this..

I hate to say this to an intelligent man Ayup, but you show signs of "media indoctrination" I'm not being rude, but even if I show you cast iron evidence, you'd refute it.

Pointless comment because those 3 are not in office. The Govt absolutely are NOT following WHO guidance. Quite the opposite. Your choice.

Attempting to refute by shooting the messenger is never a good look. It really doesn't matter whther he is a 'Rabid Socialist' or Attilla the Hun'. What matters is whether what he says has any substance. Most of it is factual. Which means the Govt. chose a stance which it could defend politically by claiming scientific backing. Well he would say that wouldn't he.. yet I've just watched a re-run of the adviser bloke saying exactly that. They started down that route but quickly dropped it, after much damage was done. So why did he reportedl

OK. I accept I didn't think that through to meet situations like yours MD, which you already know I sympathise with. Maybe in the case of people with family reasons.. we should be looking for 'verified quarantine'. However.. with anyone else I'd still advocate enfoced quarantine. I'm not talking prison, but something like we did with the cruise ship folk early on. However well intentioned and sensible people are, I think it's nearly impossible to avoid spread of CV on planes, even with social distancing. We have to remember that we started with just two cases in York. We have now lo

It doesn't matter whether my terminology is correct. Maybe they are 'semi automatic rifles'. I really don't care. But.. any Countrey, especially one which claims to be democratic.. has no valid place for idiots like this using the fact that they are armed to the teeth to force their views on the rest of the population and attempt to intimidate democratically elected Govt. They look and act like big soft kids who like playing at soldiers.

I don't see annyone here claiming that the media are all saints, but the alternative pushed by Trump and other Wannabe Dictators, is that the only truth is their truth. You know perfectly well that every time somebody mounts a valid attack on Trump, which, by definition, has has no defence against. he then cries 'Fake News'. The man is a fraud. And an idiot.

Anyone who would like to watch an intelligent and well reasoned assessment of Coronavirus Policy in it's political context.. could do much worse than to watch this weekend's 'Dateline London' on the BBC iPlayer. The usual solid contributions from Jo Coburn. very well argued points from a Sudanese journalist called Nesreena Malik (I may have that slightly wrong) and others. https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m000j61p/dateline-london-09052020

Just beat me to it Rob.

Irrespective of US Law and Constitutional issues, Trump is still a Bona Fide idiot who has very loudly telegraphed his complete ignorance of science, medicine.. and in fact most things. It's well known the US presidents are somewhat 'hamstrung' by their relationship with Congress.. which often explains their wilder Foreign Policy adventures.. often used to create an 'enemy' which they can loudly defeat to bolster support at home. In addition, Trump'spolicy plank is and always has been pushing classic US unfettered Capitalism, and US 'exceptionalism' whilst also appealin

After being a bit 'below par' on Friday.. I spent Saturday planting up and potting on... Yet more Aquilegia and Echinacea seedlings were potted on. I took 'basal' cuttings of both Red and Yellow lupins a few weeks back. The Yellow ones have failed but all red ones have rooted really strongly and now been potted up singly. I'll see if I can get more Yellow ones. Assorted Fuschia and other cuttings were potted up as single young plants. My first sowing of Green Beans had not emerged after 15 days so I checked them out. All had 'rotted off'.

Indeed. A controversial but hugely influential figure. Out of many fab tunes.. this one remains my fave. That driving unstoppable intro and the glorious singing..

Below is a breakdown of what Johnson and the Tories have done concerning the Coronavirus. They are responsible for a lot of people catching Covid-19 in the UK and dying. December 31st China alerts WHO to new virus. January 23rd Study reveals a third of China’s patients require intensive care. January 24th Boris Johnson misses first Cobra meeting. January 29th Boris Johnson misses second Cobra meeting. January 31st The NHS declares first-ever ‘Level 4 critical incident’ Meanwhile, the government declines to join European scheme to source PPE. February 5th Boris Joh

Nice pics from all and great recollections from Albert. Meanwhile, on our little Cul De Sac we today moved forward our weekly socially distanced party. I was awakened this a.m. by the sound of Mrs Col's sewing machine as she 'knocked out' several yards of bunting made from any available red white and blue fabric.. Other neighbours had similar.. or specially purchased stuff. We were all out on the street for the 11:00 'Silence'. Then at 3:00 pm the little lad across the street was supposed to be playing the 'Last Post' on his Trumpet, but succumbed to stage fri

But, Oz has already stated that 1.3 million live in Adelaide. That is approx twice the number in Notts. Yet deaths, even if all were in Adelaide, are only 4, c.f. 400+ in Notts. Pretty conclusive I'd say.

Brew, Johnson has already earned my invective, but he's done absolutely nothing to change my opinion of him. He has already presided over the highest CV death toll in Europe. I'm not going into detail over the Political decisions he made which in large part led to this. I've posted links elsewhere. He has already proven himself to be a serial liar and a bully. Most of his own family have disowned him, or distanced themselves from his politics. Yet somehow some people seem to think that having experienced the Virus and the NHS, he is suddenly a reformed character. I seriously doubt it.

MD. I've been pondering on the '100 Year Old Man' thing. Maybe she is alluding to our unfortunate habit of invoking past glories when faced with present problems? We Brits love our heroes.. King Arthur, Nelson, Wellington, Gordon, Churchill.. I've nothing but admiration for Capt. Tom.. but sadly all the wrong people with all the wrong motivations are only too glad to tap into his tale and use it for their own ends. Throughout the whole Brexit fiasco we had endless stuff from people who weren't even born in 1945 going on about how 'we' won two World wars. We now have people using t

I have words to describe the unholy, catastrophic incompetent and and cynical way in which our Govt have so far handled this disaster... but I don't want to use them in polite company.. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/06/the-uk-governments-changing-coronavirus-strategy

Ooohh.. cutting...