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At first I thought motorbikes till I realised I was getting confused with Francis Barnett. But Lea Francis was a car manufacturer.

Many thanks for this Letsav. Nothing wrong with your eyesight! I couldn't make out the embossed bit until you wrote that, yet it's clear as day now. I'll look at your link later. I have another pic of Jack from later.. possibly on the occasion of his discharge from the reserves? He has his MM ribbon on his tunic and has clearly grown from a lad into a young man. It is a slightly timmed postcard with 'Ralty' printed on the back. I'll try to post it later. I have to figure out how to recover my old pics from my back up drive without messing anything up. PC is a bit 'fragile' at the moment

Thanks for that Ann. I'l have another look at some point. I had a major computer crash a few months back and had to 'dump' almost all of my photos onto a back up drive. They are still there and will remain so until I can fit a new hard drive to my PC, but I'll be able to post Jack's discharge papers then. Col

Reverse of the photo above. Gertrude Mary Munson went to Australia and died there around the 1980s. She was actually the daughter of Jack's Dad's second wife from a previous relationship.

Sadly no . I'm not sure anyone has. I did some digging and it seems that only one copy of the Citation was issued and was not replaceable. Also, there was no print of the Citation in the London Gazette, as was the case with the Miitary Cross, for officers. Also, I can't find his notice in the London Gazette, despite having the date. (It's mentioned in his discharge papers.) My cousins have his medals, but I have his bar of ribbons and his discharge papers. Think I've said before that he told me he got it for 'Gewin wiyaart me dinner'. I have some memory of being t

I'm sure I've posted this before, but at least it's on topic Grandad Jack. MM. Aged 17 1915. Some people ask why he has a 'swagger stick', but I think it's actually a riding crop. He was a Driver in the Royal Field Artillery driving a team of horses pulling a gun. I think there was a lot more to it than that, including cae of the horses, and tack, moving ammunition and other supplies and no doubt weilding a rifle and bayonet if necessary. He didn't win his MM for nothing.

I'm sure you don't need Ad Hom explained Brew... and you don't engage in it as you debate properly and politely. However, a few here clearly do. I have said a number of times that however much I disagree with people, I try to 'bat the ball.. not the man'. A number of posts in the last couple of days indicate that some people disagree. Col

Lovely pics Lizzie. Is it my memeory playing up, or is there a little maze just in front of the cathedral on the right? Col

Let'savagoo, many thanks for the compliment! I make no excuses for the Wiki and other links. I was always taught to 'reference' my arguments whilst in school and at uni. It's a way of demonstrating that there is some sort of evidence to support my opinions, or just a way of pointing those interested to further information. That is subtly different to just 'Googling' for ideas and then plagiarising them, or copying and pasting great tracts. Perhaps a good thing we aren't discussing a lot of Psychology. As I recall the convention was that practically every sentence had to be refe

Lots of stuff on the telly just now about commemorations of the Battle of Amiens. Scenes from Amiens cathedral. I spent a week in Amiens with the kids when they were young. Took them out to see their Mum who was studying there for her French Degree. The cathedral is a phenomenal building and filled with plaques and memorials to allied forces from all countries. Well worth a look if you are in that neck of Les Bois.

I suspected so Ben, but didn't want to mention it until you did. Hope all goes well. Col

Weather here is still reasonable. Warm today but a 'milky' sort of sky. Forecast downhill at least till the weekend, but I'm not complaining. I'll be able to do some indoor DIY without constantly wishing I was outside in the Sun. If summer ends now I won't complain. Best extended period of warm weather for a very long time. Col

Well done Ben. Only you know when it's the right time. In my experience it takes a whie for it to sink in and for you to allow yourself to do exactly what you want, when you want. Take it easy. Col

Thanks to all who have joined in with this discussion politely and without any 'Ad Hom' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem Just a reminder that it was not me who introduced a political discussion to this thread. Careful readers will see where it came from. I just responded. However. Maybe I should have picked up on the point and opended a new thread to discuss it. We all live and learn. This is definitely the last 'political' response I'm making in this thread.( Yes.. I know.. I've said it before.... ) I have been allowed to say my piece on a range of iss

Colin, I don't claim to be always right, or to put people right. I don't expect people to agree with me on everything either. I just ask that people produce some sort of evidence to support what they claim are 'facts'. The stuff about Marx above is a classic example. I posted a little earlier that I wanted to give my view on Anti Semitism, and I also posted that I wanted to reply to two people. They were Brew.. who I've now replied to, and yourself. There were two points we were at odds on as I recall. The first was Taxation. I'll admit I wasn't too clear there.

Brew, I'm not one of those who think political correctness strangles free speech. I have never felt that I was unable to express a view on anything. There is one exception. I am not allowed, under UK Law, to preach hate, discrimination etc. But tht's no loss to me because I have no desire to do those things. I can quite legally question, or support levels of immigration.. I can be critical of Islam, or any other religion, etc. But, under UK Law.. I cannot preach hate, incite violence etc., etc. That is exactly what those invoking the 'specious' or 'made up' concept of 'Cultural Marxism'

Not trying to have the last word on anything Graham. I think most if not all of my posts in this thread have addressed a different comment. But, when people post stuff which is factually incorrect, such as the stuff about Marx above, I just like to put things straight. I've said this many times. People are entitled to their views, but I don't believe people are entitled to support their views with inaccurate information, or to make potentially imflammatory statements without expecting a response. A couple of things I'd like to respond to a bit later, because I owe tho

Took me a minute to get what you were referring to there. Karl Marx never used anything to control anybody. Karl Marx was a Sociologist and Political -EconomicTheorist. He died in 1883. Long before the term Political Correctness was invented. As far as I know, he never held any form of political office. He had many interesting ideas, but some of his major predictions never came true. For example, he expected revolution to start in the Western Industrialised nations, whereas it actually started in Russia. His grave is in Highgate Cemetary in London. A Communist Plot.

Corbyn always supported the idea of a United Ireland. He is entitled to that view. He is essentially a pragmatist who sees that conflict must always eventually be resolved by discussion. Corbyn has never denied meeting with Sinn Fein and others., but has always stated his condemnation of violence 'on all sides'. Whilst no sane person, IMHO, would support the indiscrimnate bombing and killing of innocent people, I thnk we have to recognnise that elements of the British Army and very probsably the Security Services, weren't exactly 'snow white' either. I think it is also

Wilberforce was instrumental in ending the slave trade from Africa to North America and the Carribean. in the 19th Century. That has nothing directly to do with the situation in South Africa, which developed in the 20th Century under a very repressive White regime, largely dominated by the descendents of Boer settlers I believe, which oppressed the indiginous Black population until the 1980s. There's a common thread, in that whites were oppressing blacks, but otherwise it was different situation. Political Correctness has little to do with freedom of speech. And freed

Fly, I don't think anybody here is singling out England, or Britain for special condemnation. Conquest and colonisation were the normal way of conducting geo -politics from almost the dawn of time and I don't believe we Brits were any better or worse than anybody else overall. It is true that many of our former colonies continued to adopt similar education systems and so on, but many have been rather less successful at achieving a working democracy after independence against a background of tribal and other political forces which work against it. A similar 'post colonial' pattern is eviden

I've just come in after an evening of highly irresponsible boozing and carousing. I shall resume this fascinating discussion tomorrow. Night all.

You were doing so well till the anti Semites bit. Whatever your opinion of Corbyn, both know that the Establishment cabal of Tories/their Corporate backers, the assorted crooks who benefit from Govt. out sourcing an the media all fear Corbyn.He will cost them as they are forced to pay their taxes and stop bleeding the state for every penny they can steal. The anti Semitism issue is a concereted campaign by the establishment to smear him. He's about as anti Semitic as Moses. He's not handling it well, but neither he nor his party are anti-semitic.

Statue of William Wilberforce in Hull. I believe there are many others. And of course there wasnt a mass exodus by then the slaves were all US born, dependent upon their former 'masters' for work and still treated like shit... as many still are. Some founded Liberia though.

Herald Sun is an Australian Populist newspaper, seemingly similar to our own dear Sun.. which you won't find in Liverpool. I've looked at a lot of stuff about Mandela. I agree he was no saint in the early days, but then if you were a black Native South African, denied a vote, told where you could go, who you could associate with, where you could live in your own country and who you could marry.. What would you do? Here's another view of Mandela. There are loads online: https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/12/05/world/africa/Mandela