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No sir. It's convenient, it a great time saver but it's no more than that. It's only essential when you can't breathe without one. The peak district is on my doorstep and is notorious for 'no signal' areas and radio dead spots but for 28 years we managed to keep the lights on for the majority of the time.

Funny how I managed to get to my 60's without ever having found a mobile phone a necessity , I'm 74 now and still don't see them as such. In ye olde times I walked to a phone box, I went to a library for information and made notes on scraps of paper for those items I needed to remember. They are handy things to have but I still have not found access to the internet necessary when away from home. There is one picture on my phone. No browser history. No E-mail set up and lo and behold I still manage to keep going, amazing, I don't know how I do it!

Absolute tosh! I'm surprised you think that...

That's interesting, why is it obscene BK? Is it any more obscene than our, yours and mine, living standard and lifestyle when compared to the sick, the lame and the starving throughout the world?

The 'young girl' is in fact a 35 year old woman. Why does she have that much jewellery? - because she can and I suspect it's as much an investment as it is for decoration.

Ah bless, did you think it was it done by vote? It's TV den, nothing is left to chance it's all carefully planned and staged...

Yes I agree about the economic history but I try to keep things more succinct, more easily digestible and to the point. I'm not going to get into a discussion of the Blessed Margaret, suffice to say I voted both for and against her. The NHS has been out of control for years and governments of both flavours have sought to solve its problems by throwing money at it rather than finding a proper solution. I realise it's heresy to decry the jewel in the socialist crown but take the blinkers off and it's obvious it cannot carry on the way it is at the moment.

I think it's not easy to reply to that Alpha particularly when the remaniners here have said repeatedly they have accepted we will leave. The time for aggressive statements has gone, (If it was ever appropriate) This is a bit of mystery and I'd like to know which example you are thinking of. As an aside how do you have a 'so called nation'? Err I think only one was against Nazism, there was no such thing in WW1. Another example I'm at a loss to understand nor can I remember any 'vitriolic abuse' or 'acidic bile'. I don't say you are wron

The 'vote leave' web site is still up for anyone who wants to check the benefits claimed for leaving: http://www.voteleavetakecontrol.org/why_vote_leave.html I am, as some know, a remoaner and I agree with Col although rehashing Brexit and the reasoning behind it serves no real or useful purpose. It's not the case that leavers will not articulate their reasoning, indeed why should they? But more a case of they cannot express why they are so anti-EU. Many know now that the main planks of the leave argument have been disproved and dismantled but still they remain enthusia

Your'e a bad man Rob.L... a bad baaad man...

I'll take your word for it Ozt...

I thought it was hedgehogs that were baked in clay...

I just looked, there is NO legal definition of vermin in UK law so it comes down to personal opinion - I like 'em

hey, my garden, my rules

We have three, agile little buggers aren't they? Its usually a race between them and a small flocks of pigeons to see which empties' the feeders first. Drives my neighbour crazy, says both are vermin but hey, my garden, my rules OK...

It's the impression I get talking to various people. Few even want to discuss it and "can't be doing with it" is quite often a phrase I hear. You're right it's not pragmatic in the true sense of the word, it's just how it seems to me at the moment. Whether they will continue not caring when the consequences start to bite I don't know. I don't think I have ever said that either directly or by implication. If you have interpreted anything I have written as such then I assure it was not meant that way.

All rather irrelevant now. Regardless of what happens next it will never be acceptable to everyone and quite frankly by now few even care.

All I entered was "Is Johnson far right"' There were attacks on both leaders. Your view of the BBC has taken a knock after the Andrew Marr / Johnson show had over 12,000 complaints about his anti-Johnson attitude.. Not too sure about the lies though. Johnson is not the only one who wants parliamentary reform. Labour has in the past proposed a non-partisan Parliamentary Boundary Review to examine the rules for the redistribution of seats, together with a referendum on introducing the Alternative Vote (AV) system for elections to the Commons. Provisions in the Constituti

Not sure if that's a compliment or an insult...

I have to admit it's a bit Tom Sharpe, what were the council thinking when they approved it? Like a lot of contemporary stuff people are so afraid of being called Philistines because they 'don't get it' they will go along with almost anything. That includes 120 building bricks lying on the floor - well worth £120,000 of anybody's money. A steel cube with holes in it, a dirty old bed and a carbuncle of a market square.

Now now Col it's one mans opinion and although extreme making derogatory comments serves no purpose. As suppositions go that's a bit of a leap. I and I suspect many others consider Corbyn to be about as far left as he can be without taking the title of commissar. McDonnell and the shadowy Momentum are unashamedly 'far left' along with everyone's favourite hypocrite and racist Dianne Abbot. A quick Google returns hundreds of web pages that acknowledge Johnson et al. as you describe with the exception of the term 'malicious', many of the

I do, how can I make an informed choice unless I consider views other than my own? I'm not so arrogant that I think I'm always right, indeed I'm often wrong but unless my mistakes are pointed out I will continue to make the same mistakes ad infinitum. That's rather the point of this topic. I met Col at the meeting and he's a decent bloke, wrong of course but decent and I see it as my duty to turn him from the dark side...

Corbyn did mention it in his humble pie speech but no one is making a big issue of it Col for the simple reason it's not true. You have a bee in your bonnet about the media, the Mail and the BBC in particular, yet none of the losing candidates are making a fuss about it or even pointing a finger. The old adage 'seek and ye shall find' is true. Look for bogeymen and you will see them. It's easy to look for someone to blame but the truth is plain to see, Corbyn is the worst leader Labour has had in the last fifty years. Even Michael Foot did better. I can't see a problem with Parliam

Never thought the beast would be tamed...

I'm not so disparaging about ordinary peoples ability to understand what Labour was all about. Labour themselves say the manifesto was their most radical for fifty years They are on TV right now still saying it and trying desperately to avoid saying Brexit is the single important factor in theses results.