rob237 89 Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 Woman and child killed by train "...A woman and her seven-year-old grandson were killed when they were hit by a train on a crossing in Nottinghamshire. The incident happened on Saturday at about 1840 GMT just north of the Moor Bridge tram stop in Bestwood Village. British Transport Police has confirmed the train was travelling between Worksop and Nottingham on the Robin Hood Line. Officers said the pair were killed at a foot crossing where train and tram lines run parallel..." http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/notting...ire/7744475.stm Robt P. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bamber 128 Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 A tragedy no doubt, but how can anyone be so incompetent as to be hit by a train in this location? They wouldn't be safe crossing any road. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bip 88 Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 Until the truth comes out how this tragic accident happened one can only speculate. The lady in question may have been long-sighted or a little deaf. Last night just before my train was due there came a non stop train bound for London St Pancras. The platform announcer warned all those on the platform to stand well back from the yellow line. I was just a little to the right of the yellow line as I walked down the platform in a Nottingham direction when I glanced around to see this high speeder approaching some hundred yards away, I never heard it coming but then again I might be a little deaf. These modern engines make very little noise at high speed. Bip. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scriv 168 Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 Given that you've got parallel train and tram lines, it would be all too easy to forget that traffic runs in both directions on both lines, and I strongly suspect that this is the root cause of this accident. As Bip rightly says modern trains are all but inaudible until they're right on top of you. Even at slow line speeds they can't stop as quickly as a bus, and of course they don't have the option to swerve. Most modern railways are constructed with Continuous Welded Rail, which IMO increases the risk to crossing users as the familiar "clickety-clack" of an approaching train no longer exists. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ashley 288 Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 Yes very sad, Not only modern trains either, I remember reading a book written by a fireman who says one day on a goods train approaching hucknall from annesley they could see "something" on the line in the the distance, on getting closer they saw it was 2 women talking in the middle of the track with backs towards them! despite much whistle blowing they were forced to stop and driver went up to them and tapped one on shoulder saying "look behind you" the woman promptly fainted, injuring herself as she fell bad enough for ambulance to be called, sounds unbelievable but as in a local book and a known local person? As regards "high speed passes" was with sons at beeston and all trains running late due to storm in leics, was advised by station master to stand back as london train "making up time" he said speed limit I think 75? came through at god know what speed, the place shook! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
.... 23 Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 News report stating that this area of the track is not well lit. Not sure how much of a factor that would be. Very sorry news indeed. Rest in peace and thoughts are with their loved ones. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
firbeck 859 Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 We had a very much publicised incident down here at Elsenham Station a couple of christmases ago, quite frankly, I think that the incident at Bestwood should be left alone until the facts are known, it must be hard for everyone concerned, it should be left at that and not discussed on here. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bip 88 Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 I too saw the report last night regarding the accident and I too concur with the fact that the crossing is not well lit but didn’t the accident happen during the day? May I suggest that there should be some sort of audible warning of a train/tram approaching. Bip. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ashley 288 Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 From what I read in the dark Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scriv 168 Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 According to the BBC report in the OP it was 18.40 so it would have been well dark by then. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bip 88 Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 Would it be practical to light up every crossing there is? Still say an audible sound would make people more aware of approaching tram/train. Bip. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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