mick2me 3,033 Posted November 22, 2013 Report Share Posted November 22, 2013 Ebay? http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313&_nkw=edta&_sacat=0&_from=R40 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Trevor S 2,003 Posted November 22, 2013 Report Share Posted November 22, 2013 But is it any good????????????????? Has anybody on this site been using it for a length of time, have gained the desired results that the product claims and most importantly; have their Medical Practitioner's approval and/or endorsement to use the product? I am interested. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ayupmeducks 1,730 Posted November 22, 2013 Report Share Posted November 22, 2013 It's a natural Amino Acid Trevor, so is no more dangerous than an apple. I've been using EDTA for a couple of years now, prior to that I was fighting to keep my BP down with hard exercise. Mine was way too high. I started using it to remove toxic metals like mercury and lead from my body, a chellation, secondary results was lower blood pressure. I take three 600mg capsules per day, never had any ill effects from them. Hard exercise is not for my joints anymore, my knees are shot from working underground most of my working life. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bilboro-lad 294 Posted November 22, 2013 Report Share Posted November 22, 2013 Well it's supposed to be good for neuropathy pain in the feet (which I get at night) but it seems to have a greater claims to fame than Lily the Pink's medicinal compound. Surely medicine wouldn't miss the panacea for all ills would it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ayupmeducks 1,730 Posted November 22, 2013 Report Share Posted November 22, 2013 "Big Pharma" is trying to make all herbal medicines and suppliments only available via prescription over here, odd thing is there have been no deaths caused by natural medicines but hundreds of thousands die annually care of Big Pharma and it's licensed drugs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Trevor S 2,003 Posted November 22, 2013 Report Share Posted November 22, 2013 Ayupmeducks, in your case, what is your GP's thoughts on the matter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
OLDACE 196 Posted November 22, 2013 Report Share Posted November 22, 2013 Thanks for all the info folks. I'm feeling a bit shell shocked at the moment, a good friend of 45 years standing has just emailed to tell me has mesothelioma. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ayupmeducks 1,730 Posted November 22, 2013 Report Share Posted November 22, 2013 Trev, I've lost all faith in Doctors, I'd go to one if I got bitten by a snake/spider or broke a limb, I won't go into why I've lost faith on here... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StephenFord 866 Posted November 23, 2013 Report Share Posted November 23, 2013 Re #232 - Very sorry to hear that Oldace. I used to work at the railway workshops, and in the old days blue asbestos was widely used as an insulation material, both on steam loco boilers, and in carriage bodyshells. There were a lot of cases of mesothelioma that surfaced many years after the substance had been banned. Horrid disease. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Trevor S 2,003 Posted November 23, 2013 Report Share Posted November 23, 2013 Sad news, OLDACE. Asbesto has and still is taking a big toll in Oz as well. Asbestos was used in a myriuad of building products that they are still coming to grips with in the present day. Most houses of the pre80s contain asbestos in one way or another. Contractors putting the broadband cable underground using the old Telecom cabling routes have found that most pits are lines with asbestos and before any work, special squads are employed to remove it. We even had a mining town called Wittenoom up the north of WA. Was the largest town up there but is just a ghost town now. Tailings heaps the kids played on and the constant dust was of no concern in the early days as blue asbestos was mined at a profit. No health and safety back then and the blue asbestos dust covered anything and everybody in the town and surrounds. Lessons are learnt the hard way. Google 'Wittenoom' for an insight into this asbestos disaster. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
OLDACE 196 Posted November 23, 2013 Report Share Posted November 23, 2013 I do get angry about the effects of asbestos exposure. I was heavily exposed during the 60's while working for Young, Austen & Young. Later, when I became a T.G.W.U rep., I learnt that the dangers were known about since the late 1920's, this was following the high death rate of workers at, I believe, the Smith and Nephew asbestos factory at Hebden Bridge. I was politicised by the callousness of the employers towards their workforce, a callousness that continues to this day in many industries at home and abroad. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ayupmeducks 1,730 Posted November 23, 2013 Report Share Posted November 23, 2013 1920??? Try mid 1800's, the French were aware of the dangers of asbestos from their mining operations in their African colonies but kept it under wraps for decades, after all it was only black miners that died from it, so it didn't matter... Arrogance at it's worst. Everyone on earth over 20 years old has been exposed to it daily, try car and truck brake pads and shoes....It was also used to insulate high temp electric cables, used in electric heaters and water heaters.. Some women had a pad to sit their electric iron on, asbestos of course... "Monkey muck" around boilers and hot water pipes to insulate them, those were in factories and schools... Those old prefabs had fibro asbestos outer walls, most houses with a water boiler had fibro asbestos chimney inserts for the exhaust fumes. It occurs naturally across the world and is exposed naturally, when I lived in California, we were warned of areas in the foothills overlooking the Sacramento valley where it was exposed, just thin seams of it, but highly dangerous.. Tomorrows "asbestos" will be fibreglass insulation.......... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
... 1,411 Posted November 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2013 Mick to me how is your father in law i hope he is on the mend. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mick2me 3,033 Posted November 23, 2013 Report Share Posted November 23, 2013 Still in City, and quite poorly I am afraid. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
... 1,411 Posted November 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2013 lets just hope things work out for him. regards Andy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fch782c 144 Posted November 23, 2013 Report Share Posted November 23, 2013 I do get angry about the effects of asbestos exposure. I was heavily exposed during the 60's while working for Young, Austen & Young. Later, when I became a T.G.W.U rep., I learnt that the dangers were known about since the late 1920's, this was following the high death rate of workers at, I believe, the Smith and Nephew asbestos factory at Hebden Bridge. I was politicised by the callousness of the employers towards their workforce, a callousness that continues to this day in many industries at home and abroad. My older brother worked at YAY in the drawing office when were you there? Fch782c Quote Link to post Share on other sites
... 1,411 Posted November 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2013 Sunday morning just watched saturdays lower leagues football highlihts manager explained how he felt immune to cancer before being diognosed with testicular cancer they were having a Male awareness weekend Millwall have given away free shirt sponsorship to prostate cancer to raise awareness .I then read the paper to find Nobby Stiles 71 has been diognosed with prostate cancer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
OLDACE 196 Posted November 24, 2013 Report Share Posted November 24, 2013 fch782c, I was at Y.A.Y in 1965, I worked at the Council House replacing the boilers, then I was at several schools doing the same. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
... 1,411 Posted November 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 Having put some thought into the politics topic i feel its time we gave admin some support drop our differences and put this one to bed and start wiyh a clean sheet tommorrow i think sometymes admin try to please everyone andend up dyspleasing us all thankless task we are luckey to have this site so lets rally round and rise above the things that annoy us 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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... 1,411 Posted December 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 Without getting into a great debate but thought i should mention having hada psa level of 0.04 since the removal of my prostate a year and a half ago this time my quarterly psa has gone up to 0.10 this to me is very worrying even though it could just be a blip has all know i advocate men getting tested and felt by following my psa levels we men might get a better understanding having had my prostate removed i am told that if there is a return of cancer radiotherapy is the next step to which they assure me that it is usually quite affective like most things early detection gives best chances so as ever if in doubt dont mess about get checked sorry to bore you but would hate to think anyone out there going undetected Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stan 386 Posted December 4, 2013 Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 Mr. Charlesworth,I wish my PSA was as low as 0.10 mine is 10 times that at 1.0 and I am quite delighted.! Anything under 6.51 is in the `normal range in Australia. So don`t let it spoil your Christmas. There are enough of the PC crowd around that will try to do that. HAPPY HOLIDAY CRAP !!!! it is Happy CHRISTMAS. Bah humbug ! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
piggy and babs 544 Posted December 4, 2013 Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 yes old ace realy bad news he came down the hart a few weeks ago to tell us and asked to pass on the news to old friends he is not in touch with personally, i must say that i was realy impressed with his positive attitude and his determination to do certain thingsno he dose not want a world trip cruise or a life of luxury just to be able to meet up with as many old friendsas posible at get to next years reunions. might try after christmas for a get together in the springi will keep you postedi know if you can you will be there. babs 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
piggy and babs 544 Posted December 4, 2013 Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 a charlesworth as i said in the early part of this thread my husband is now nearly 6 years in remmision was told by his specialist that as long as his psawas under 2 there was nothing to worry about his last test was up very slightly to 0.06 mr cole told us 0.03 is the lowest they were able to detect. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
OLDACE 196 Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 Any rise in the PSA level is worrying after a prostatectomy, but at 0.1, I don't think any procedure will be called for. The thing to remember is that you are being checked regularly, and any recurrent cancer will be treated early. I went for my quarterly blood test this morning, here's hoping. Babs, Tom with the mesothelioma has been told that the chemo is working well, and his time on the planet has been increased to two years. He is quite chuffed about that. I had a long chat with him at the weekend, and as you say, his attitude to the cancer is really positive. He has had a T shirt made with the logo 'Mesothelioma----------It Takes Your Breath Away'. He wears it to the hospital, and the staff and patients get the the biker humour. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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