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Hi Jill. When you say that you support the visiting wildlife in your garden including the moggies, do you feed the moggies?
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My eldest is a sixteen year old tabby. She's Top Cat and knows it. Likes everyone else to know it too! Then there's my seven year old very naughty boy. Feline Brain of Britain he will never be but is gorgeous. Lastly, my five year old boy. Scared of his own shadow but does like to play fight with my other boy. Loves his many toys and doesn't have a nasty bone in his body.
All three are rescues. I love cats!
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Hi Jill. When you say that you support the visiting wildlife in your garden including the moggies, do you feed the moggies?
Mrs B
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I have three cats of my own, although I don't permit them to wander about all night. I seem to spend enough buying food to keep their tummies full, so I wouldn't feed other cats unless I knew they were strays. In that event, they wouldn't be strays for very long.
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Hi Jill. When you say that you support the visiting wildlife in your garden including the moggies, do you feed the moggies?
Mrs B
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I have a couple of moggies who spend a lot of time in my garden. They usually turn up at twilight when I'm hedgehog watching as they seem quite fascinated by the hogs. Since I feed the hogs, dog food, cat biscuits and mealworms, the moggies like to help themselves to a few cat biscuits. I don't feed them, as such, because they have good homes but I think they feel entitled to pinch a few crunchies!
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To the person who sent me a personal message a few minutes ago, I am unable to access it due to change in the format of this forum. I'm not ignoring you, I simply can't read your message. Please feel free to reply to this post.
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For @susannahanorak
There follows a fairly exhaustive list of Manning staff (not all there at the same time...and some simply 'not all there') with whom I was, unfortunately, acquainted:
Mrs Wheeler - head mistress.
English:
Miss Alderson, Miss Pearl A Burnham, Mrs Robbins.
Maths:
Mrs M Davy!!!, Mr Hammond, Miss Scott
SPORTS/Dance
Miss Greig, Miss Ramsden, Miss Steele, Mrs P C Day, Mrs Dance!
Science:
Dr Smaridge, Mrs Hadwen, Mrs Scofield, Mr D Edgeley, Mr Rundle, Mr Williams
Languages:
Mrs D Christie, Mrs Glass, Miss Baines, Mr A Langley, Senor Diaz
Art: Mrs A Barnes
Domestic Science: Mrs Clarke, Mrs Darroch, Mrs Bibby
Music: Mr R Abbey
Geography:
Miss Colthorpe, Mr R Wells, Mrs Lowe
History:
Miss Raine, Mrs Hobson, Miss Fewkes, Miss A Garner
RE:
Mrs Vernon, Miss Fewkes
Others who must have fitted in somewhere but never had the dubious delights of teaching me:
Mrs Butters, Miss Newlyn, Mrs Hibbert, Mrs Hall...if I think of any others, I'll let you know.
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To the person who sent me a personal message a few minutes ago, I am unable to access it due to change in the format of this forum. I'm not ignoring you, I simply can't read your message. Please feel free to reply to this post.
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More memories of the dreaded Manning above, if you haven't already found them.
We did have a member, EileenB, who was a Brincliffe girl. She hasn't posted for a long time but if you go onto her profile, you may find Brincliffe related info.
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To the person who sent me a personal message a few minutes ago, I am unable to access it due to change in the format of this forum. I'm not ignoring you, I simply can't read your message. Please feel free to reply to this post.
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I can see you've been reading threads on Berridge and Manning. You might want to post on one of those?
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To the person who sent me a personal message a few minutes ago, I am unable to access it due to change in the format of this forum. I'm not ignoring you, I simply can't read your message. Please feel free to reply to this post.
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Some of us are experiencing difficulties in accessing PMs since the 'upgrade' and sadly, I'm one of them.
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I have been trying find one Phil but as yet unsuccessful.
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CT will dig something up. He's the images genius!
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Hi Jill,
I'm Jennifer's partner Paul Grant, and Olive Wibberley was my auntie. Olive lived at Radford Boulevard along with her mother Harriet (Hattie) and brother Rex. My mother was called Margaret (Peggy) and she married Frank Grant who worked in Beeston at Broadgate Garage. We lived in Beeston and Chilwell before moving to East Leake.
Sadly, Olive died a few years before her mother due to having a stroke. Her hairdressing business had dried up and she worked in the lace market to make ends meet. I know she had tried to commit suicide several times in the past. Hattie was 93 when she passed away. Rex died a couple of years later after surviving a house fire.
I have many fond memories of day trips to Skeggy with mum, auntie Olive and grandma Hattie and remember Hattie dragging me around by my ears! She was a right tyrant with a wicked sense of humour. I still have some old photographs somewhere that I'll dig out.
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Hello Paul
Nice to hear from you again. Uploading images to NS has to be done via a host site which is rather a lot of messing about. I will send you my email address by PM as we never post our private emails where everyone can read them. Really looking forward to seeing the photos and thanks for going to so much trouble.
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Hi Jill,
I'm Jennifer's partner Paul Grant, and Olive Wibberley was my auntie. Olive lived at Radford Boulevard along with her mother Harriet (Hattie) and brother Rex. My mother was called Margaret (Peggy) and she married Frank Grant who worked in Beeston at Broadgate Garage. We lived in Beeston and Chilwell before moving to East Leake.
Sadly, Olive died a few years before her mother due to having a stroke. Her hairdressing business had dried up and she worked in the lace market to make ends meet. I know she had tried to commit suicide several times in the past. Hattie was 93 when she passed away. Rex died a couple of years later after surviving a house fire.
I have many fond memories of day trips to Skeggy with mum, auntie Olive and grandma Hattie and remember Hattie dragging me around by my ears! She was a right tyrant with a wicked sense of humour. I still have some old photographs somewhere that I'll dig out.
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Thanks for the further information, Paul. Yes, I recall the smell of the ammonia from the perming solution! Olive did a lot of perms as they were very popular in those days. In fact, she often seemed pretty busy as my mother couldn't always get an appointment the same day but usually she'd manage to pull in a dry cut while one of her perm customers was waiting for the solution to develop or under the dryer.
I can see her now, in her overall, sweeping the floor which was covered with linoleum, and making a pile of my curls which she'd trimmed. There was an ancient gas fire in that room which belted out heat in the winter. According to the photos, last time the house was sold, all the fireplaces have been ripped out and the chimney stacks removed. A shame because they were nice, well built houses.
You say that David came to your house once. He must have been in his teens then. Do you think he asked to meet his biological mother and did Olive meet him on that occasion? As he was adopted, I suppose his name was changed. Such a shame that your grandparents couldn't have brought him up. My own grandmother had a son before she was married and he was brought up believing he was her little brother. I think he sussed the truth but at least he was able to stay with his own family. Such was the stigma attached to illegitimacy in those days.
I would love to see the photos. You probably wonder why I'm so interested but I was genuinely very fond of your aunt. She had such patience with me and took such an interest in my dancing.
Do you know anything about The Regent Girls? It would be interesting to find out about them.
Rex, the apprentice electrician of the 1939 register, must have been very useful around the house. Such a shame about his war experiences.
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Hi Jill,
I'm Jennifer's partner Paul Grant, and Olive Wibberley was my auntie. Olive lived at Radford Boulevard along with her mother Harriet (Hattie) and brother Rex. My mother was called Margaret (Peggy) and she married Frank Grant who worked in Beeston at Broadgate Garage. We lived in Beeston and Chilwell before moving to East Leake.
Sadly, Olive died a few years before her mother due to having a stroke. Her hairdressing business had dried up and she worked in the lace market to make ends meet. I know she had tried to commit suicide several times in the past. Hattie was 93 when she passed away. Rex died a couple of years later after surviving a house fire.
I have many fond memories of day trips to Skeggy with mum, auntie Olive and grandma Hattie and remember Hattie dragging me around by my ears! She was a right tyrant with a wicked sense of humour. I still have some old photographs somewhere that I'll dig out.
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All this is so interesting, Paul. Heartbreaking that Olive was not permitted to have contact with David and that it caused her depression to the point of suicide. Is it possible that he is still living? He'd be 80 now, so not old in this day and age. Many adoptees do seek out their biological parents.
I know Heanor quite well. I live in Derbyshire myself now.
Like many women, Olive was unfortunate. Nowadays, no one would bat an eyelid. How times change.
Sad, too, about Rex.
My mother, who passed on almost 10 years ago, always said that of the many hairdressers she tried in later years, no one cut her hair like Olive. We often spoke of her.
If you find your photos, i'd love to see them.
I loved visiting the cats. Always adored cats. Sounds like Hattie got as good as she gave!
Just a thought. According to the births index, Olive was born in Nottinghamshire. Would that be in Beeston? Although the family appears on Radford Boulevard in 1939, they may have recently arrived there. My father's family lived in Beeston, born 1924. His father kept a shop. Your grandparents and mine may have known each other.
If Olive attended school in Beeston, there are many photos to peruse on a Beeston local history website.
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Hi Jill,
I'm Jennifer's partner Paul Grant, and Olive Wibberley was my auntie. Olive lived at Radford Boulevard along with her mother Harriet (Hattie) and brother Rex. My mother was called Margaret (Peggy) and she married Frank Grant who worked in Beeston at Broadgate Garage. We lived in Beeston and Chilwell before moving to East Leake.
Sadly, Olive died a few years before her mother due to having a stroke. Her hairdressing business had dried up and she worked in the lace market to make ends meet. I know she had tried to commit suicide several times in the past. Hattie was 93 when she passed away. Rex died a couple of years later after surviving a house fire.
I have many fond memories of day trips to Skeggy with mum, auntie Olive and grandma Hattie and remember Hattie dragging me around by my ears! She was a right tyrant with a wicked sense of humour. I still have some old photographs somewhere that I'll dig out.
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Paul, I have posted some information about Olive and your family in the Hairdressers thread. You may well already be aware of it but it might be of help.
I would love to know about your aunt's connection with dancing and the stage. She took such an interest in my ballet classes as a child.
I also hope she was able to maintain contact in some way with her son. Jennifer told me you once met him.
The old house on Radford Boulevard has been sold several times recently and it seems odd looking on the estate agent's site at the very room where Olive had her salon all those years ago.
I am so glad that she didn't end her own life. It had always bothered me that she may have done so. It must have been dreadful for Harriet to lose her daughter.
I don't recall Percy, your grandad, nor Rex your uncle. Did he live there after Harriet's death?
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Hi Jill,
I'm Jennifer's partner Paul Grant, and Olive Wibberley was my auntie. Olive lived at Radford Boulevard along with her mother Harriet (Hattie) and brother Rex. My mother was called Margaret (Peggy) and she married Frank Grant who worked in Beeston at Broadgate Garage. We lived in Beeston and Chilwell before moving to East Leake.
Sadly, Olive died a few years before her mother due to having a stroke. Her hairdressing business had dried up and she worked in the lace market to make ends meet. I know she had tried to commit suicide several times in the past. Hattie was 93 when she passed away. Rex died a couple of years later after surviving a house fire.
I have many fond memories of day trips to Skeggy with mum, auntie Olive and grandma Hattie and remember Hattie dragging me around by my ears! She was a right tyrant with a wicked sense of humour. I still have some old photographs somewhere that I'll dig out.
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Jennifer/Paul thanks so much for posting again. I was really hoping you would.
I'd done a bit of research into Olive and her family.1939 register showed they were all living at the house on Radford Boulevard long before I was born. Also looked into her parents. Had no idea she had a brother named Rex I also found her son, David, born in 1939.
She certainly thought a lot of you, Paul but I'm surprised that your grandma treated you so roughly. I remember her well. A tiny little lady who answered the door and kept Olive's appointment book. She seemed so mild mannered.
I would love to see any photos you have.
I'll post more a bit later
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hi jill im trying to find a dennis storer or a ......... fearn might have used the nickname 'randy' ,would be around 19 in 1976 or there abouts. iv been told they were around top valley,rise park and maybe broxtowe,just wondered if they rang a bell with you or if you would have any idea what i could do to find them.thank you.margaret.
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Hello Margaret
Unfortunately, those names don't ring any bells with me. I'm not familiar with the Top Valley or Broxtowe areas but there are members on the site who would be. I'm sure one of them may know something. Good luck with your search.
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Re your post on The Bobbers Mill crossing you and the chap who answered your post you are totally wrong with regards to some of the detail. I am Marie (nee Marshall) and I am the 3rd oldest of my 4 siblings. You were correct as far as our family name but were wrong in what you said about my mother. She didn't go around in an army greatcoat & boots pushing a "barrow" if your referring to my youngest sister Jaqueline I know for a fact that she had a push chair, the only one of us that had special needs was my brother Peter who was 4th of the 5 of us, he suffered with a heart murmur from birth. I really would ask people to get their facts right before submitting throw away comments on other people's lives.
The chap that said Peter had Callipers is also totally wrong, I don't know who he was talking about but it wasn't my brother!!
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That's a shame. She's too young to be on the ones I have which are a complete set for those born 1958/59. Close but not close enough. Still, at least you've recognised someone from the other two photos.
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Re your post on The Bobbers Mill crossing you and the chap who answered your post you are totally wrong with regards to some of the detail. I am Marie (nee Marshall) and I am the 3rd oldest of my 4 siblings. You were correct as far as our family name but were wrong in what you said about my mother. She didn't go around in an army greatcoat & boots pushing a "barrow" if your referring to my youngest sister Jaqueline I know for a fact that she had a push chair, the only one of us that had special needs was my brother Peter who was 4th of the 5 of us, he suffered with a heart murmur from birth. I really would ask people to get their facts right before submitting throw away comments on other people's lives.
The chap that said Peter had Callipers is also totally wrong, I don't know who he was talking about but it wasn't my brother!!
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Which year was Jacqueline born? I do have some photos of later Berridge classes but she may have been too young to be on them.
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Re your post on The Bobbers Mill crossing you and the chap who answered your post you are totally wrong with regards to some of the detail. I am Marie (nee Marshall) and I am the 3rd oldest of my 4 siblings. You were correct as far as our family name but were wrong in what you said about my mother. She didn't go around in an army greatcoat & boots pushing a "barrow" if your referring to my youngest sister Jaqueline I know for a fact that she had a push chair, the only one of us that had special needs was my brother Peter who was 4th of the 5 of us, he suffered with a heart murmur from birth. I really would ask people to get their facts right before submitting throw away comments on other people's lives.
The chap that said Peter had Callipers is also totally wrong, I don't know who he was talking about but it wasn't my brother!!
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I wondered when I saw freckles had given the name Janet to the girl you thought was you.
Nut Yard was somewhere off Cyril Avenue and is long gone.
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Re your post on The Bobbers Mill crossing you and the chap who answered your post you are totally wrong with regards to some of the detail. I am Marie (nee Marshall) and I am the 3rd oldest of my 4 siblings. You were correct as far as our family name but were wrong in what you said about my mother. She didn't go around in an army greatcoat & boots pushing a "barrow" if your referring to my youngest sister Jaqueline I know for a fact that she had a push chair, the only one of us that had special needs was my brother Peter who was 4th of the 5 of us, he suffered with a heart murmur from birth. I really would ask people to get their facts right before submitting throw away comments on other people's lives.
The chap that said Peter had Callipers is also totally wrong, I don't know who he was talking about but it wasn't my brother!!
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Freckles posted her recollections of who was on that photo as follows:
Thank-you much appreciated.Going to try and put names to faces,teacher was called Mrs Peat or Peak not very nice.
Back row left to right Leslie Smith lived in kirkstead street, ?,Susan ?,David?,Jeanie Pullen,Brian Marshall,Betty Green,Jeffery?, ?,next row
Norma Sully ,?,ME,David Bull,?,David Lloyd,Jackie Bestow,Graham Pates,?,Brian Newstead,next row
? Janet?,Barry?,Wendy?,Richard?,Margaret?,Clive?,Marilyn Henson<?,?,?,next row
Tommy Tattersel lived on pleasant row,?,Michael Scott,Gwen?,?,?,Freddie ? lived on pleasant row,and Patty Soar lived on pleasant row.
Thats the best I can do.
? denotes name not remembered
Might jog a few memories? She's referred to a Brian Marshall here but identified the boy as John Marshall in a later post.
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Re your post on The Bobbers Mill crossing you and the chap who answered your post you are totally wrong with regards to some of the detail. I am Marie (nee Marshall) and I am the 3rd oldest of my 4 siblings. You were correct as far as our family name but were wrong in what you said about my mother. She didn't go around in an army greatcoat & boots pushing a "barrow" if your referring to my youngest sister Jaqueline I know for a fact that she had a push chair, the only one of us that had special needs was my brother Peter who was 4th of the 5 of us, he suffered with a heart murmur from birth. I really would ask people to get their facts right before submitting throw away comments on other people's lives.
The chap that said Peter had Callipers is also totally wrong, I don't know who he was talking about but it wasn't my brother!!
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Oh, that's good! Glad you've spotted someone. Freckles didn't give her real name so I can't say what it was. You would be slightly older than my sister who was born in 1950. She was also taught by Mrs Peak and didn't like her.
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Re your post on The Bobbers Mill crossing you and the chap who answered your post you are totally wrong with regards to some of the detail. I am Marie (nee Marshall) and I am the 3rd oldest of my 4 siblings. You were correct as far as our family name but were wrong in what you said about my mother. She didn't go around in an army greatcoat & boots pushing a "barrow" if your referring to my youngest sister Jaqueline I know for a fact that she had a push chair, the only one of us that had special needs was my brother Peter who was 4th of the 5 of us, he suffered with a heart murmur from birth. I really would ask people to get their facts right before submitting throw away comments on other people's lives.
The chap that said Peter had Callipers is also totally wrong, I don't know who he was talking about but it wasn't my brother!!
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Yes, I thought the boy 3rd from left back row was Peter.
The freckles photo was around 1957 or 58, she thought. The teacher is Mrs Peat or Peak. My sister remembers her, perhaps you do too.
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Re your post on The Bobbers Mill crossing you and the chap who answered your post you are totally wrong with regards to some of the detail. I am Marie (nee Marshall) and I am the 3rd oldest of my 4 siblings. You were correct as far as our family name but were wrong in what you said about my mother. She didn't go around in an army greatcoat & boots pushing a "barrow" if your referring to my youngest sister Jaqueline I know for a fact that she had a push chair, the only one of us that had special needs was my brother Peter who was 4th of the 5 of us, he suffered with a heart murmur from birth. I really would ask people to get their facts right before submitting throw away comments on other people's lives.
The chap that said Peter had Callipers is also totally wrong, I don't know who he was talking about but it wasn't my brother!!
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Don't know whether you are interested, Marie, but another member, freckles, who hasn't posted for some considerable time now, said she was at Berridge with the Marshall family from the railway house but named John and Victor Marshall. From the names you've mentioned, these were not your siblings but they may have been relatives?
Freckles posted a school photo taken at Berridge around 1957/58 which I've copied below. It was taken before my time there. You may possibly recognise someone. In her post, she identified the boy on the back row, 6th from the left, as John Marshall who had a brother named Victor.
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Re your post on The Bobbers Mill crossing you and the chap who answered your post you are totally wrong with regards to some of the detail. I am Marie (nee Marshall) and I am the 3rd oldest of my 4 siblings. You were correct as far as our family name but were wrong in what you said about my mother. She didn't go around in an army greatcoat & boots pushing a "barrow" if your referring to my youngest sister Jaqueline I know for a fact that she had a push chair, the only one of us that had special needs was my brother Peter who was 4th of the 5 of us, he suffered with a heart murmur from birth. I really would ask people to get their facts right before submitting throw away comments on other people's lives.
The chap that said Peter had Callipers is also totally wrong, I don't know who he was talking about but it wasn't my brother!!
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This is a photo of Mrs Robinson's class at Berridge in 1965/66. It's a copy of a copy, so not brilliant but I think your brother Peter could be on here. Possibly on the back row to the left?
I wasn't in this class but borrowed the image from a friend who was. I'd be interested to know if he is there as I like to annotate these photos where possible.
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Re your post on The Bobbers Mill crossing you and the chap who answered your post you are totally wrong with regards to some of the detail. I am Marie (nee Marshall) and I am the 3rd oldest of my 4 siblings. You were correct as far as our family name but were wrong in what you said about my mother. She didn't go around in an army greatcoat & boots pushing a "barrow" if your referring to my youngest sister Jaqueline I know for a fact that she had a push chair, the only one of us that had special needs was my brother Peter who was 4th of the 5 of us, he suffered with a heart murmur from birth. I really would ask people to get their facts right before submitting throw away comments on other people's lives.
The chap that said Peter had Callipers is also totally wrong, I don't know who he was talking about but it wasn't my brother!!
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The railway crossing attracted a lot of children like a magnet in those far off days and the boy with the bicycle and calliper seen by another member may well have been a child who lived on Alfreton Road and had gone there to play.
I do remember a boy at Berridge who was caned in assembly for playing 'chicken' down there. I think this has been mentioned on here previously. Unfortunately, it didn't deter him and he was hit by a train and killed. He was one of the older juniors when I was around 7 or 8. Do you remember that happening? I can remember the headmaster at Berridge announcing what had happened. No one could believe it but boys still played down there. No sense of the danger involved.
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Re your post on The Bobbers Mill crossing you and the chap who answered your post you are totally wrong with regards to some of the detail. I am Marie (nee Marshall) and I am the 3rd oldest of my 4 siblings. You were correct as far as our family name but were wrong in what you said about my mother. She didn't go around in an army greatcoat & boots pushing a "barrow" if your referring to my youngest sister Jaqueline I know for a fact that she had a push chair, the only one of us that had special needs was my brother Peter who was 4th of the 5 of us, he suffered with a heart murmur from birth. I really would ask people to get their facts right before submitting throw away comments on other people's lives.
The chap that said Peter had Callipers is also totally wrong, I don't know who he was talking about but it wasn't my brother!!
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I'm sorry to hear about your parents, Marie. Mine have also passed on. Sad that you've also lost a sibling. Did you go to Berridge? I can only remember Peter. Did he have very fair hair?
It must seem strange to see the photos of the house in such a derelict state and, of course, now it's gone. There must be many memories of living there during your childhood. I haven't been to the area for many years but I'm told it has changed an awful lot.
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Re your post on The Bobbers Mill crossing you and the chap who answered your post you are totally wrong with regards to some of the detail. I am Marie (nee Marshall) and I am the 3rd oldest of my 4 siblings. You were correct as far as our family name but were wrong in what you said about my mother. She didn't go around in an army greatcoat & boots pushing a "barrow" if your referring to my youngest sister Jaqueline I know for a fact that she had a push chair, the only one of us that had special needs was my brother Peter who was 4th of the 5 of us, he suffered with a heart murmur from birth. I really would ask people to get their facts right before submitting throw away comments on other people's lives.
The chap that said Peter had Callipers is also totally wrong, I don't know who he was talking about but it wasn't my brother!!
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Is your brother, Peter, still with us? He would be 60 or 61 now, I would guess.
As regards the lady with the greatcoat and the wooden barrow, I remember seeing her around the crossing area and I understood that she worked for the railway, as a number of women did. It was heavy work but women were recruited during the war to fill in for the men and some of them continued afterwards.
I've asked a few friends I'm still in touch with from Berridge and we were all under the impression that this lady lived at the railway house and was Peter's mother. Clearly, we were misinformed which is very regrettable. Again, my apologies.
