carni 10,094 Posted June 5, 2014 Report Share Posted June 5, 2014 Hiya, I am doing a bit of Family research again. I have come up with an Address that I can't find. Most of the old places have been flattened and this may be one of them. Mayfair House, Swains Avenue, Snienton Dale, Notts. I have found a Swains Ave off Carlton Rd and don't know if this is the same one? I also don't know about Mayfair House. Could it be Flats or a Private House? Could it be knocked down. I would like to see an image of it if anyone with the Maps can trace it for me. I know from letters that this Address was around in the last war, but that is all I have. Thank you for any help. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Michael Booth 7,364 Posted June 5, 2014 Report Share Posted June 5, 2014 It's still there, carni. Check how you spelt 'Sneinton' http://www.192.com/address/details/nottingham/ng3+7au/56/ Something else I've found. Bakersfield Library Bakersfield Library is a small community library situated on the corner of Watson Avenue and Swains Avenue, just off Sneinton Dale. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FLY2 10,109 Posted June 5, 2014 Report Share Posted June 5, 2014 Check how you spelt check Michael. Sorry, just being pedantic. LOL Quote Link to post Share on other sites
carni 10,094 Posted June 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2014 DOH, I did it again!!!! After every thing you taught me Anorl. Lol Thank you for investigating for me. Do you think one of those houses is the Mayfair House that I am looking for. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Michael Booth 7,364 Posted June 5, 2014 Report Share Posted June 5, 2014 I always thought that was the way you spelt it, basfordred.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FLY2 10,109 Posted June 5, 2014 Report Share Posted June 5, 2014 Quick on the edit button there matey. LOL Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cliff Ton 10,506 Posted June 5, 2014 Report Share Posted June 5, 2014 Mayfair House, Swains Avenue, Snienton Dale, Notts. I have found a Swains Ave off Carlton Rd and don't know if this is the same one? I also don't know about Mayfair House. Could it be Flats or a Private House? Do you have the house number on Swains Avenue? or is it just Mayfair House? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
katyjay 5,091 Posted June 5, 2014 Report Share Posted June 5, 2014 Mayfair House sounds posh! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
carni 10,094 Posted June 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2014 hiya, CliffTon, It's just Mayfair House, no number or post code (i don't know if they were around then). The Address is on 6 letters to my relation ( no scandal, it's all above board). I have just double checked and there is no number or any more clues. I have got the name of the person sending the letters, a girlfriend of my relation, before they all married other people. I have looked myself over the years, its the Mayfair House that baffles me! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dat47 92 Posted June 5, 2014 Report Share Posted June 5, 2014 Hi Carni I seem to recall a school for Autistic children on Swains Ave. It was called Sutherland House might that help? Somewhere close to St. Cyprians church off Lancaster Rd. Going back 20 odd years! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
carni 10,094 Posted June 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2014 dat47, Thank you for that information. I have known about Swains Ave, from the letters for years, but only just got round to looking into it. Perhaps Sutherland House might have been Mayfair House once, it's possible! All I know is the Address of the lady, who sent them. Now I know where Swains Ave is, we will go for a ride round and have a look, next time we visit Nottingham. The letters with the Address on are dated 1944 so it may or may not be there anymore . We will investigate! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MelissaJKelly 2,124 Posted June 5, 2014 Report Share Posted June 5, 2014 Have PM'ed you Carni 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
piggy and babs 544 Posted June 5, 2014 Report Share Posted June 5, 2014 i worked for a while on a work placement at sutherland house school the swains avenue school was for 5 to 11 year olds the senior schooll also called sutherland house was at that time on cedar rd mapperley park this has since been moved to a larger building on pelam ave i seem to remember the school was oridgeinaly named after the house it was first stated inbut it was nearly 20 years ago i only recently destroyed the information i had about it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
carni 10,094 Posted June 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2014 Hiya Babs, Now come on Gel, don't let me down! I'm sure you can turn up some info for me. I was relying on you Babs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
annswabey 599 Posted June 6, 2014 Report Share Posted June 6, 2014 Can't help with exactly where it is, but in 1943 and 1945 a family called Toombs were living there Quote Link to post Share on other sites
carni 10,094 Posted June 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2014 annswabey, Thank you for looking into Swains Rd for me. The name you have turned up, is the family name of the lady who sent the letters. I have lots of letters from the war years and I am slowly working my way around the addresses. I just hoped one day I might be able to see a map with Mayfair House shown on it, as I have had no luck locating it. The house name is very clear on all of the letters, so I know I haven't made a mistake. This is only a pass time for me, putting together parts of my parents lives, long before they met. It kind of brings me close to them, and has given me a few laughs along the way. Which I know they would be laughing with me....Somewhere. Thank you for your help. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
annswabey 599 Posted June 6, 2014 Report Share Posted June 6, 2014 Oh, that's good to hear! Looks as though her brother may have been a POW Quote Link to post Share on other sites
carni 10,094 Posted June 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2014 This family were all good friends of my father, but there is no mention of a brother in any of the letters. Perhaps it was all hush hush. It seems odd that we can't locate a building with the name mentioned. Unless it has changed names? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cliff Ton 10,506 Posted June 6, 2014 Report Share Posted June 6, 2014 I presume you've 'travelled' up Swain's Avenue on Streetview. The houses there cover a wide range of styles and ages. I reckon your Mayfair House would've been one of the old 'farm' houses such as this. https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.961006,-1.115148,3a,75y,246.68h,97.79t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sz_NAmQD6UKWyCjWijpDIEg!2e0?hl=en That obviously isn't it, but if you zoom in on Streetview to the stone across the middle window you'll see this place has a name. Unfortunately it isn't Mayfair House. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
katyjay 5,091 Posted June 6, 2014 Report Share Posted June 6, 2014 Looks like Swain Dene, good old street view and zooming. It would be good if they put a stone on Mayfair House saying such, and it wasn't just the name the folks named it themselves after it was built. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
carni 10,094 Posted June 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2014 CliffTon, The house looks as though it would have been there in the 1940s. The Garden wall is typical of the ones i have seen around Carlton and Gedling. I think it is probably that style of house I am looking for! I am baffled about the Address. In #15 annswabey has found the family living in the Address in the 1940s, so we know it existed then.Mmmm Sorry I can't give any more clues, only that is the Address in the letters. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
piggy and babs 544 Posted June 6, 2014 Report Share Posted June 6, 2014 hi carni i will see if i can get some info for you one of the teaching assistants i worked with now works at the swains ave site so i will see if i can contact her and see if she can get the info for me babs Quote Link to post Share on other sites
annswabey 599 Posted June 7, 2014 Report Share Posted June 7, 2014 I had a look at a Directory for Nottm for 1941 at the National Archives today. Mayfair House was listed, somewhere between no's 99 and 148 Swains Ave (numbers after 99 and before 148 weren't included) and close to Whites Ave, which still exists. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cliff Ton 10,506 Posted June 7, 2014 Report Share Posted June 7, 2014 Ann, I think you may have made matters worse Present day Swains Avenue doesn't go beyond 55 (odd) or 74 (evens). Looks like it might be one of those cases where there was a renumbering at some stage. Today, White's Avenue splits 49 and 51. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
annswabey 599 Posted June 7, 2014 Report Share Posted June 7, 2014 Oh, dear - not good news! Perhaps there'll be a faded Mayfair House sign on one of the houses near Whites Ave, she said hopefully! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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