Jeff Handley 1 Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 I was asked by my relations in the States to find out about our ancestor who had a pub in Nottingham, the name was The Horse and Tembit I haven’t been able to find anything. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cliff Ton 10,495 Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 Any more clues ? Do you know the area within Nottingham? What time period are you talking about ? Name of the ancestor ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TBI 2,351 Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 I think there may well be an error with that pub name, Jeff. As far as I know, there is no such word as 'tembit'. Can't think of anything that sounds like it that would go with horse either. As Cliff says, any more info? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NewBasfordlad 3,599 Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 Like TBI I can find a good reference to the word 'tembit' nearest association I can come up with is a German company. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Oztalgian 3,345 Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 Could it be the Horse and the Bit, or something similar, referring to the bit that goes in a horses mouth? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bubblewrap 3,815 Posted December 3, 2017 Report Share Posted December 3, 2017 Could be Horse & Trumpet? I've gone back to 1940 in my directories & can find no reference plenty of horses but no Trumpet Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bubblewrap 3,815 Posted December 3, 2017 Report Share Posted December 3, 2017 I've been back to 1899 & there was a Horse & Trumpet 49 Beck Street Landlady Mrs L Spencer Wrights directory 1898/99 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
catfan 14,793 Posted December 3, 2017 Report Share Posted December 3, 2017 I think you are quite correct BW as confirmed by my mate Dawson in Ireland. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cliff Ton 10,495 Posted December 3, 2017 Report Share Posted December 3, 2017 4 hours ago, Bubblewrap said: I've been back to 1899 & there was a Horse & Trumpet 49 Beck Street Landlady Mrs L Spencer Wrights directory 1898/99 Congratulations to Bubblewrap for deciphering it. As further proof, it was at the junction of Beck Street and Trumpet Street (which no longer exists). It would've been approximately where the Salvation Army building is now. So far, Jeff Handley hasn't been back since he first posted the question. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bubblewrap 3,815 Posted December 3, 2017 Report Share Posted December 3, 2017 And he lives in Somerset Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bubblewrap 3,815 Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 I can go back as far as 1832(White's directory)& the Horse & Trumpet was there at that date. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DAVIDW 1,693 Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 This photo appeared in the E.P. August 1950 as a picture quiz . Answer appeared a few days later mentioning the Horse and Trumpet 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bubblewrap 3,815 Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 That answers one thing as I've mentioned the H&T appears in my 1898/99 directory but it does not appear in Kelly's of 1916 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
catfan 14,793 Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 CliffTon could be mistaken. .saying that the public was at the junction between Beck st.and Trumpet st. This pub at that place was The HORSE and TRUMPETER. Yes there was a boozer on Beck st. called The Horse and Trumpet. ..but not with the 'er' on the end! The Horse and Trumpeter was demolished in 1900. Furthermore the long standing Landlord was a Mr. John Richard. Other watering holes: Horse and Trumpet - Stoney St. Horse and Trumpet - Weekday Cross. Horse and Trumpet - Carter Gate 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bubblewrap 3,815 Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 And this goes to prove another thing pub closures are not a recent "problem" in 1877 the year Nottingham was expanded to take in the likes of Radford, Basford etc the town had close on 600 pubs/beer houses by 1950 this had come down to 360 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bubblewrap 3,815 Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 The H&T in Weekday Cross was there in the 1740s Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cliff Ton 10,495 Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 It gets curiouser. 16 minutes ago, catfan said: CliffTon could be mistaken. .saying that the public was at the junction between Beck st.and Trumpet st. This pub at that place was The HORSE and TRUMPETER. Yes there was a boozer on Beck st. called The Horse and Trumpet. ..but not with the 'er' on the end! I agree with that ! ..... as this map shows. It's clearly "Trumpeter". But there's no other pub marked on Beck Street apart from the one at the bottom end which is the "Bee Hive" Howver, looking at Bubblewrap's directory, it shows that the "Horse and Trumpet" (without ...er) is at No.49 Beck Street, which lies between Butcher's Court and Trumpet Street, which fits the one on the map with ..er. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
catfan 14,793 Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 There is more than one pub on Beck St. 41 Beck st....The Bee Hive. 49 Beck st... The Horse & Trumpet. (Which is shown as an Hotel on the map. Many thanks to our Republic of Ireland correspondent ! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
catfan 14,793 Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 The Bee Hive vegetarian restaurant that existed in the 80,s..I'm told the owner pinched the name from the old pub which was in existence a hundred years before in the same locale. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
plantfit 7,654 Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 Great thread and some great detective work by the nottstalgian crew with help from our Ireland correspondent Rog 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jill Sparrow 10,336 Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 3 hours ago, catfan said: The Bee Hive vegetarian restaurant that existed in the 80,s..I'm told the owner pinched the name from the old pub which was in existence a hundred years before in the same locale. Wasn't that in Hockley? Remember going there with some friends after work. Very basic flagged floor and pine furniture but good food for veggies! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
catfan 14,793 Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 Could be Jill, have to wait for confirmation from our ROI correspondent ! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bubblewrap 3,815 Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 Wasn't there some work being carried out on Convent earlier this year where they found a cellar ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
catfan 14,793 Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 The Horse and Trumpeter was sold at auction by KW Kidd in March 1883. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
catfan 14,793 Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 13 hours ago, Jill Sparrow said: Wasn't that in Hockley? Remember going there with some friends after work. Very basic flagged floor and pine furniture but good food for veggies! Correct Jill, our ROI correspondent was the chef there ! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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