High Pavement Gr. school, Bestwood, 1964-66


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I attended HP. for these two years to do 'A' & 'S' levels, finding it very different from ClaremontSec.Bilateral.

There were some wonderful teachers like Mr. Dobson and Stanley Middleton, who brought English Lit. to life for me, Charlie Mardling, who increased my love of Foreign Languages and real characters like Fred Millage and Bill Grey, with whom we used to visit the Grosvenor Pub at the junction of Hucknall Rd. and Mansfield Rd.

Unfortunately, I lost my love for Geography through being taught by Eric Shepherd, who spent most lessons telling us how he won WW2 and making ex. Claremont and Ellis boys feel inferior.

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Frank, I was there from 1967-1972 and can only remember Mr Middleton from your post. Were Mr E W N Smith, Mr Wass, or the Head Mr Brown there then?

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Late response here.   I was there 1960 - 65.  Albert's leg (from the calf downwards I believe) was generally described as being 'pot', when he took over from the, much lamented Harry 'Taff' Davies.

 

Stanley Middleton taught me both English Lit and Language for some years.  Was also taught by E.W.N Smith, Bert Dodd, ? Steele (Science) Stevenson (Geog) 'Puff' Graham (History) Some other quite old History teacher who insisted on reading great tracts from accounts of ancient battles in the Graeco- Roman period etc.  Was taught by Bill Gray too, but never by Messrs. Mardling or Millidge. John Preston (Chem/Physics) will have been there as he was still there for the '88 Bicentenary celebrations. The only Wass I recall was a Lab Asst./Tech when I was there and also noted as a bit of a local Archaeologist.  He married a girl from our street (Southglade.. on Bestwood Est...) who went to Manning.  It's possible he was qualified, or became qualified, to teach.  Eric Shepherd was a self inflated pompous pillock.

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I'm a bit late responding but I also remember Eric Shepherd. He was a bit hopeless as a teacher. He told us that he was not here to teach geography, but to teach working class boys public school values. I was amazed even then. But I felt the whole tone of the school was a bit like that. And even Shepherd had something about him, he wasn't a bastard or anything. Maybe the war fogged him in some way. You never know. And there were some genuine hard working types, Preston amongst them, and Sam Thrasher, Doug Slater and Swill Hill, to name a few. All long gone. Bloody hell, we're next in the queue now.

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I've only just joined, so very late joining this discussion.

 

Taff Davies was still there when I attended. I saw quite a bit of him as, being somewhat lazy, there were quite a few occasions when I was "on report". 

 

Mr Graham (History)  was my Basford Housemaster. The long-winded history teacher was probably the Aberdonian 'Jake' Murray. Because of his teaching style I deliberately failed my end-of-year History exam so that I could take French the following year.

 

Stan Middleton was a great teacher. I was also taught English by Mr Moorcroft, who was reputed to be emphatically socialist and, therefore, a strange fit in a Grammar School.

 

Mr (Tom??) Ormonroyd taught me French. He often made me stand in front of the class to demonstrate my ignorance of French but I got my own back after my parents took me on holiday to France, where I had to do all the talking and translation for them. My dad did know a bit of French but it was the 1914-18 war Tommy variety such as "Voulez vous coucher avec moi se soir?". On my return from that holiday I was able to answer Mr Ormonroid's test with flying colours and he never picked on me again.

 

E W N Smith was known to us as RK Smith. There was another Smith, known either as 'Fat' or 'Art' who was a brilliant art teacher.

 

Doug Slater took Zoology, Swill Hill took Botany and Mr Carlisle took Chemistry. There was another Chemistry teacher we called 'Crock'. He was Mr Crossland (or was it Crossman?) who was known for loudly smiting the chemistry lab benches with his walking stick if he thought we were not paying sufficient attention. He had a limp from a wartime experience and had served, I think, in the Middle East. Anybody know the name of a Physics teacher who also taught Calculus?

 

Mr Blackburn taught Metalwork. Great fun using the forge.

 

Can't remember the name of the PE teachers but two of them he made a great impression on me, for different reasons. The first used to take delight in walloping pupils with a slipper as he set them off for a punishment run down the length of the gym. The second joined in a game of basketball and we both leapt up for a ball. Unfortunately, he was still going up as I came down on his knee. An experience I am able to recall clearly after over 60 years.

 

 

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Brilliant stuff Mr King! 

Yes.. it was 'Jake' Murray.. The veritable personification of a dour, thin faced caricature of Scottish.. er ..Scottishness.  Thanks for reminding me. 

 

EWN Smith.  A decent sort.  I had the pleasure of conversing online with his son a couple of years ago. I think I responded to his death notice or something.

 

'Fat' or 'Art' Smith.  Pretty harmless I think though art was never my thing.  In first or second year during our art lesson.. he handed me a small note and asked me to deliver it to a female teacher in Henry Whipple Primary nearby.  Clearly something was 'going on'.  I felt like I imagine Leo in L.P.Hartley's 'The Go Between' must have felt, but fortunately I was spared the lifelong disastrous consequences. :)

 

10 hours ago, MrKing said:

Stan Middleton was a great teacher. I was also taught English by Mr Moorcroft, who was reputed to be emphatically socialist and, therefore, a strange fit in a Grammar School.

 

Yes. Stan was a 'one off'.  I also recall Mr Moorcroft.  I'm pretty sure that there were more than a few socialist minded teachers at H.P.

Grammar schools could be seen as elitist, or as a way of giving kids from working class backgrounds a 'leg up'. You don't get much more basic than the original Bestwood Estate on which HP was built in 1955.. and I was contemporary with at least a dozen or so lads from Bestwood who made it to HP.

Recall 'Swill Hill' taking us for Biology up to Third Year.. maybe beyond... The hilarious time he tried to broach human sexuality and the alleged nocturnal activities of adolescent boys....  :rolleyes:  I'm sure that he.. like Baden Powell.. meant well.

 

Blackburn.  Metalwork.  I liked him.  He was helpful and not too rigid. I owe my probably now redundant knowledge of how to harden and temper tool steel..entirely to him.

 

 

 

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On 4/2/2021 at 1:22 PM, MrKing said:

Can't remember the name of the PE teachers but two of them he made a great impression on me, for different reasons.

 

One has just come back.  Mr 'Ray' Caulton.  He was the sort of elder statesman of the P.E. team. As I recall we used to sing 'We'll make Ray Caulton do a circuit every day..when the Red Revolution comes.'

Also, a Welsh bloke.. much younger.  Generally a short tempered, belligerent and unpleasant character. 'Bonser'? I could be way off there.

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One has just come back.  Mr 'Ray' Caulton.  He was the sort of elder statesman of the P.E. team. As I recall we used to sing 'We'll make Ray Caulton do a circuit every day..when the Red Revolution comes.'

Also, a Welsh bloke.. much younger.  Generally a short tempered, belligerent and unpleasant character. 'Bonser'? I could be way off there.

Yep, Caulton was the slipper (or plimsol) whacker. I remember the name Bonser but I now think the one who accidentally kneed me in the groin was a PE student from Loughborough College on placement at HP. 

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