Cliff Ton

So now we know what chulla does in answer to the thread about lying awake in the early hours. http://nottstalgia.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=13302 When Smiffy49 asked that question, I'll bet he didn't expect to get into quantum physics.

Re: the Nightmail film. You can get a remastered DVD version of the original 1936 film which runs 23 mins. On the same DVD you also get the 1948 version at 17 mins; a 1963 version at 28 mins; and a 1982 version at 25 mins. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Night-Mail-DVD-Geoffrey-Tandy/dp/B000WM9WKU/ref=sr_1_2?s=dvd&ie=UTF8&qid=1417876221&sr=1-2&keywords=nightmail And you get the words to the poem.

Jeff's mentioned here. http://nottstalgia.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=8769&h

The other one that I can't place is this, described as "The Black Horse" - and no other information. I can find references to a Black Horse in Bulwell, Caythorpe, and Mansfield, so maybe it's one of those.

I wondered that as well. I knew about the one near The Trip, but where is / was this one?

He's still there. http://goo.gl/maps/dUFTF

I lie awake wondering how LizzieM managed to get 1,000 likes

So that's the problem solved. The photos are of two different Newcastle Arms, even though the Evening Post imply it's the same building. Typical of the NEP these days, printed in Birmingham and written by people who don't know the area and don't know what they are talking about.

Photo #4 is definitely the Newcastle Arms on Sherwood St / Bluecoat Street, although it may not have actually been a pub by then. The building in photo #5 doesn't look like the same place to me; how many Newcastle Arms are there - or have there been? It's a bit difficult with all those photos because the locations aren't given. In some cases it's obvious, but there are others where you'd only know it if you lived in that area.

I couldn't resist.

I agree that in the early days Broad Marsh was the better / nicer place. I knew it well because it was the terminus for buses from Clifton. Back then it seemed brighter and more modern than the slightly gloomy and dull Vic Centre. Broad Marsh was great from when it opened in 1975 until around the mid 90s; then the decline started. Shop units closed and weren't re-occupied by a new tenant. Then it was gradually taken over by pound shops, charity shops and shops which only exist for a few months.

For a look at what Broad Marsh Centre was like in its early days, when it had shops............http://www.picturethepast.org.uk/frontend.php?&user_keywords=broad+marsh+centre&operator=AND&town_village=&date_period=&database=&action=search&keywords=Ref_No_increment%2CDisk_No%2CLocal_Accession_No%2CMap_Reference%2CTown_Village%2CLocation%2CTitle%2CDate_of_Image%2CDate_Period%2COther%2CForm_completed_by%2CKey_Terms%2CThemes%2CKeywords%2CPhotographer%2CArtist%2CEngraver%2CPublisher%2CForm_of_Acknowledgment%3BCONTAINS%3B%25broad%25%3BAND%3BRef_No_increment%2CDisk_No%2CLo

York House has now been wrapped up for christmas.

I reckon that is partly because there aren't actually that many shops there! Almost the entire upper floor is empty, and the former big Co-op unit has been empty for several years. Take a look at post #44 here http://nottstalgia.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=9811&hl=+broad%20+marsh&page=3. That's around 18 months ago, but it hasn't got any better.

I'd forgotten I have a connection to this area, although I wasn't around at the time. My grandad (my dad's father) grew up at 24 Kilbourn Street as a boy, although the family had left by 1911.

Correct ! I don't know the area but that's what it says on Picture the Past.

This is the sign referred to by bamber, and which I linked to in post #6. It shows the change-over point, and is opposite Brantcliffe Avenue.

I'm surprised I haven't done this before on this thread. This map from the 1920s shows most of the streets mentioned in various posts. And you can identify your own individual houses.

I'm glad the streets on Clifton weren't like this when I was a kid on a bike.

This seems to explain the row of buildings on the map which I first thought was the one Ashley mentioned. It appears to be a row of houses or sheds/workshops ? Next to them seems to be a platform awning, and then the Health Centre/Train crew office. For anyone who isn't sure, London Road bridge is on the right.

This seems to prove your point PP. Very precisely dated as 18th October 1950, and very definitely a load of cobblers. http://www.picturethepast.org.uk/frontend.php?action=printdetails&keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;NTGM019041&prevUrl= http://www.picturethepast.org.uk/frontend.php?action=printdetails&keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;NTGM019044&prevUrl=

I originally posted this map to show a building I thought might be the one Ashley is referring to. It shows the Mk2 station on Station Street, and the way its entrance was at an angle to the road. This shows things by 1920s; the Mk3 station is operating and Ashely's building is marked in black - and bigger than it is now. And the one in the earlier map is still there.

I never realised that, but your theory is proved at the side of the road. http://goo.gl/maps/cKsYf

I'm guessing Ashley is referring to this building.