tomlinson 879 Posted February 1, 2015 Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 I once read a SF story where two major events affecting the world occurred on the same day. 1. A space ship was sent at light speed to explore space and would arrive back not long after it left because of time travel. 2. By a radio signal, everyone on earth was rendered telepathic, so everyone knew what everyone else was thinking. When the space ship arrived back on earth, it was to find that most of the poulation had committed suicide because every little thought of all was revealed and understood. With today's social medias etc. we seem to be heading that way. Do we have too much information and communication? Also, as a matter of interest, a firm in Sweden is proposing to micro chip employees ostensibly for the convenience of easy security etc. Is this a good thing? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bubblewrap 3,815 Posted February 1, 2015 Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 It's not what they tell you that they put on the micro chip, but what information they put on that they don't tell you about. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
... 1,411 Posted February 1, 2015 Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 Are we easier to programme with our codes and passwords,how long is it before our children are given numbers and codes at birth,people dont ask for your name now ,they ask for your code to identify you. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bubblewrap 3,815 Posted February 1, 2015 Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 But surely that has been the case since N.I. numbers were introduced. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LizzieM 9,527 Posted February 1, 2015 Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 I've rarely had to quote my National Insurance number and in fact I have to look it up whenever it's asked for. However in the United States one has to quote a Social Security number for all sorts of reasons, from buying a property, a car, insuring anything, opening and running a bank account and even subscribing to cable television. We owned a property in the US for several years and came across this hurdle many times, WE DIDN'T HAVE A SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER. We usually got around the problem with a bit of bluff but it wasn't easy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
... 1,411 Posted February 1, 2015 Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 Actually thats true bubblewrap,when I went into a job centre recently despite having a whole host of identifing info it was my NI number that mattered.still dont stop people defrauding them though does it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Michael Booth 7,364 Posted February 1, 2015 Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 Nowadays, you can get any documentation you want, driving licence, passport, anything....for a price. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
... 1,411 Posted February 1, 2015 Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 How much do you charge for a passport michael 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Michael Booth 7,364 Posted February 1, 2015 Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 Because you're such a great guy and always brighten my day with your humour, I'll let you have one for free, Andy. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MargieH 7,615 Posted February 1, 2015 Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 Re posts #2 and 3...... Just thought I'd just throw this into the mix .....Revelation chapter 13 verses 16, 17 & 18 written 2000 years ago. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bubblewrap 3,815 Posted February 1, 2015 Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 Please enlighten us Margieas I'm non to conversant with the Bible! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NewBasfordlad 3,599 Posted February 1, 2015 Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 Margie didn't recognise that one till I looked it up. BW It ends and the number of the beast is 666 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bubblewrap 3,815 Posted February 1, 2015 Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 And lo the roar of Moses's Triamph could be heard throughout all Israel So Moses rode a motorcycle Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NewBasfordlad 3,599 Posted February 1, 2015 Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 Yep but it was a BSA Bantam Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bubblewrap 3,815 Posted February 1, 2015 Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 No a TRIAMPH like it says in the Bible Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MargieH 7,615 Posted February 1, 2015 Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 The 'Mark' which was put on people's hands or heads showed that they had rejected God. It wasn't a microchip though - in the Living Bible it says it was a tattoo. I have a tattoo, but mine is a picture of my faith i.e. an empty wooden cross which has new shoots and leaves, and a dove flying near it. I like the Moses joke, Bubblewrap! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bubblewrap 3,815 Posted February 1, 2015 Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 Nothing to do with "Stigmata" though ? Stigmata (singular stigma) is a term used by members of the Christian faith to describe body marks, sores, or sensations of pain in locations corresponding to the crucifixion wounds of Jesus Christ, such as the hands, wrists, and feet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MargieH 7,615 Posted February 1, 2015 Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 No, it's nothing to do with stigmata. I believe such phenomena would probably be seen on people who HADN'T rejected God, though I have no personal experience of this, only read about it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Merthyr Imp 729 Posted February 1, 2015 Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 a firm in Sweden is proposing to micro chip employees ostensibly for the convenience of easy security etc. Is this a good thing? It's a chilling sign of the way the world's going - the next thing will be governments proposing this for the whole population. It's the next step up from everyone having to carry an identity card, which the country did well to resist a few years ago. We hear of this anti-terrorist legislation which will give the state (i.e. police and security services) powers of accessing records of emails, text messages and phone calls and it's easy to extrapolate from this a situation where everyone has a chip implanted broadcasting who knows what information to some central state organisation. Oh, we'd get the usual arguments from government, police and security services that it would make the fight against crime and terrorism so much more effective, and if you do nothing wrong why should you fear it? No doubt - but I don't like it! People are already much more regimented and controlled than a century ago. Where will it end? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bubblewrap 3,815 Posted February 1, 2015 Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 Remember 1984. Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Merthyr Imp 729 Posted February 1, 2015 Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 And Big Brother is already watching us through all those cameras. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bubblewrap 3,815 Posted February 1, 2015 Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 It's not the ones you can see but the onrs you can't that matter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MargieH 7,615 Posted February 1, 2015 Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 Well that was a conversation stopper wasn't it! Was I maybe following the title of the thread too closely by 'nailing my colours to the mast?' You can always go back to just discussing the original thoughts at the beginning of the topic - I won't be offended, honestly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cliff Ton 10,512 Posted February 1, 2015 Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 And Big Brother is already watching us through all those cameras. Well it's better than us having to watch Big Brother, which is even worse. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ayupmeducks 1,730 Posted February 1, 2015 Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 Lizzie #5, it's not widely known, but a Social Security number is not required by anyone. In fact there is NO law requiring anyone to obtain a S/S account. Even the S/S administration have admitted this! BUT, as they say, without a S/S account and number, a person will not be able to file for income tax collection.....Is that such a bad thing??? LOL Granted one cannot open a Bank Account without one, as for buying car, it's not needed just a drivers license. There are many people in the US who haven't got a S/S account/number on religious grounds, the Amish are one such group. One young feller in Nevada a few years back, son of a Lawyer, was refused a drivers license on the grounds he didn't have a S/S number. His Father sued the department of transportation for Nevada over that one, I must do a search to see how he went on. There is even a law that forbids the use of S/S number's as a form of identification. Most Real Estate Agents require a buyer to enter their S/S number on the purchase forms, my wife doesn't, and nobody has ever come back on her over it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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