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[Brew 5,423]

He's good with words is our Boris. ANY breach he said, but then implies we're only talking about minor infractions, we all know we're not.

I was going to say it should not lead to automatic dismissal, however there should always be an inquiry, but then again, the Gray report is looking more and more like a carefully stage-managed PR exercise.

 

 

 

 

 

[Jill Sparrow 10,316]

Never mind, eh. Since, according to the pile of Cr*p that is the Russian media, the UK is on the brink of cannibalism due to food shortages, perhaps someone will eat him. Sunday lunch for a couple of hundred in two sittings there, I should think. Pass the tartare sauce, someone!

[MargieH 7,613]

@DJ360  you said that ‘Politics is the art of telling a lie with a straight face’

Well , is it just me or does anyone else think that Boris seems to be always trying his hardest to control a smirk on his face whatever he’s talking about…..  ?

[Cliff Ton 10,479]

And despite all his crafty manoeuvring, there are people who will still vote for him next time round.

[Brew 5,423]

Given the opposition is what the Morning Star called,  'A blancmange leader whose policies are wait.... and wait again',  I think you're right.

[philmayfield 6,187]

Yes, but we do have the Lib Dem’s as another choice. Remind me again -what’s their policy?

[Brew 5,423]

Who?

[PeverilPeril 3,288]

Will Boris survive todays vote? I reckon he will, simply because there is no alternative.

[Cliff Ton 10,479]

That's the problem; if he goes we could end up with even worse.

[PeverilPeril 3,288]

24 minutes ago, Cliff Ton said:

That's the problem; if he goes we could end up with even worse.

I doubt if we could end up with anyone worse . The problem is - is there anyone else that can step in and win a General Election? There are some 'decent' candidates such as Jeremy Hunt, but do they have the appeal to win an election?

[philmayfield 6,187]

Are there any charismatic politicians with business knowledge out there?

[Brew 5,423]

14 minutes ago, PeverilPeril said:

There are some 'decent' candidates such as Jeremy Hunt, but do they have the appeal to win an election?

 

Seriously? The same Jeremy Hunt who tried to cover up a health department scandal? The same Jeremy Hunt who has sticky fingers from a major property scandal?

[Stuart.C 493]

Personally I can see a severe shortage of willing candidates, whether honourable, qualified or whatever, stepping up if there is an election for a new Leader / P.M.

 

For a mere £80k on top of their M.P salary, less tax, plus rent free flat,  they'll have to;

 

Remove any Minsters and other Government Officials and Party workers that they won't be able to work with or who had expressed their support for the current P.M.

AND find willing replacements.

 

In no particular order,

Continue sorting out remaining Brexit issues,

Continue sorting out Covid issues including economic fallout from it,

Continue sorting out the Ukraine / Russia issue and current economic fallout from it.

And future economic fallout whether the issue continues, or is or is not resolved amicably.

 

And not forgetting the normal day to day Government work.

 

And also not forgetting they're on call 24/7/365(6)

 

[radfordred 6,284]

We all know how these leave or remain votes could go 

[Brew 5,423]

A quick run through the present cabinet shows that most, including three of the four women, have a less than salubrious track record. There is evidence of nepotism, underhand deals, backhanders, tax evasion, sex scandals, cover-ups and even pornography!

 

Whether this the 'norm' and the internet age is better at uncovering it, or the present incumbents are a particularly bad lot I'm not sure.

[Cliff Ton 10,479]

7 minutes ago, Brew said:

Whether this the 'norm' and the internet age is better at uncovering it, 

 

That's the answer. They aren't worse; they just get found out now.

 

In the 'good' old days politicians got away with a lot; today everything they do/say is immediately public knowledge.

[Jill Sparrow 10,316]

Even more dangerous is the fact that things they don't say or do is immediately public knowledge! Trial by media. Not something we should be proud of.

[Cliff Ton 10,479]

That's true as well.

 

With Deep Fakes and A.I. advancing by the day, you can't believe anything you see or hear, especially on the internet.

[Jill Sparrow 10,316]

The archbishop of Canterbury recently exhorted the people of the UK to "forgive Prince Andrew.". For what?  I'm no fan of the chap but before we forgive someone, aren't we supposed to be certain that they've done something wrong?  In this country, rumour hath it that a person is innocent until proven guilty.  We're becoming more Putinesque by the week.  Enough!

[Brew 5,423]

Perhaps he's preparing the way to ask for forgiveness for himself if he's censured.

 

As the dean of Liverpool he (Welby), banned a worshipper from the cathedral after accusations of sex abuse against Canon J Roberts, a convicted paedophile.

 

More here:

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10081819/Archbishop-Canterbury-face-disciplinary-action-sexual-abuse-scandal-say-lawyers.html

 

 

[Jill Sparrow 10,316]

Ah, let he who is without sin....as they say 

[Brew 5,423]

Boris, the Teflon kid...   Hunts scheming, and his arabian financiers have  come up short...  again.

[PeverilPeril 3,288]

23 hours ago, Brew said:

 

Seriously? The same Jeremy Hunt who tried to cover up a health department scandal? The same Jeremy Hunt who has sticky fingers from a major property scandal?

Shows how much I know about politicians Brew 

So, who do you think could step in as PM?

[Cliff Ton 10,479]

That's the problem. If Boris had gone (and I'm not a supporter) who would've taken his place ?

[Brew 5,423]

3 hours ago, PeverilPeril said:

So, who do you think could step in as PM?

 

I have little to no confidence in any of the present mob. How could I? The majority must have early onset dementia with the degree of appalling memory loss they seem to suffer when questioned about:

their financial dealings

expense claims

taxes

second jobs

generally finagling for their own benefit...................

 

There are twenty three cabinet members, it appears  only two are not tainted by controversy of some sort

 

BUT! Almost in spite of themselves, they have presided over an unprecedented period in our history and, though many will gainsay it, they have done as well as any other, and better than some.

It's just a pity there is a distinct lack of moral fortitude.