Notts Lad oop North

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  1. PDF? They can be converted to Word documents all too easily and then any Tom Dick or Harry could cut, paste and use the fruits of seven months hard labour without doing even 1 minute of research. I have already had some scrote take copyrighted information from my first book Saville's Spinney totally without any permission. Said scrote just copied info from other peoples web pages then claimed the finished product as all his own work....... which obviously it wasnt. So no PDFs sorry for the reasons given here. Pensioners can afford a £2.01 e-book. I should know, I am one!
  2. Ha Ha! Sadly Amazon control sale prices and £2.01 is the minimum you can sell it for. Why the odd penny? Amazon is a USA company so you have to price books first in US dollars and the lowest allowed price is $2.99. From the £2.01 sale Amazon take 30% and the UK government take 20% VAT so I am left with a quid and a penny. The buyer is supposed to pay the VAT but I have absorbed the price. You cannot buy a pint of beer, a pack of cigs nor even a decent coffee for £2.01. I wont be getting rich any time soon but it wont stop me writing.......
  3. Quite right, it would make amazing TV - but you dont know the half of it. I have spent the last 7 months researching and writing this almost unbelievable story and have just published my 74,000 word book on Amazon. I have not used any modern accounts and went back to the original 1851 accounts in newspapers. I can tell you why Sarah Barber did not hang. Petitions in both Nottingham and Eastwood raised 11,000 signatures in 2 days to have her death sentence commuted to transportation. It was a close run thing - she still came within 28 hours of hanging and the scaffold and barricades were
  4. Hi everybody, I started this thread in April 2011 when I realized that one of Nottingham's worst murders were commited almost at the bottom of my old street in Bakersfield. I have been researching the amazing background to this well known story that has become part of Nottingham folklore.The end result is a book I have written and recently uploaded to Amazon. Please click on the link below, you can see the cover and also look inside and read the intro, prologue and the first two and a half chapters free. I would like to thank those who have responded by po
  5. Looking for a map of Sneinton in the 1800s and thought there used to be some on here? Am I dreaming or have the maps been removed?I know all about about copyright but the law is clear - 70 years after the death of the copyright owner which surely makes old maps out of copyright?
  6. Have to say Toton is the best compromise and between Nottingham and Derby with plenty of space with all those disused sidings. Its not for the common man is it and in any case many will never see it completed with that ridiculous timescale - dont think I will.......
  7. I believe Hymeks regularly worked as far as Leicester Central to take over the two BOMO holiday trains, as Firbeck states they were seen on the Peak line. Recently sold a Hymek slide at Derby, on a passenger heading north. Dont know if that was a service or test train. Rmour has it the odd Western go to Derby too and quickly returned to Brum but as Firbeck says no Warships as far as I know....
  8. "The LMS used Victoria Station from about 1944 & B.R.(Midland Reigeon) until the L&NWR/GNR joint closed to passenger traffic in 1951? " Er sorry No! Nottingham Victoria was a joint GNR and GCR station. These two companies were amalgamated into the LNER from 1 jan 1923 when the BIG FOUR were created. These were SR WR LMS LNER Nottingham Midland became an LMS station after 1923 having been a Midland Railway station. The LMS did not use Victoria, they used Midland. The LNWR became part of the LMS - they had rights to use part of the GNR line from Bottesford into Nottingham
  9. Been doing a lot of research into Framework Knitting to help me write a historical novel based in Nottingham. Framework Knitting once supported nearly half the population of Nottingham and Lace Making most the other half. These two trades were related, I used to watch my late grandmother making lace with those old bobbins but in truth the lace was mostly made from machines developed from FrameWork Knitting machines. If you havent seen one get down to Ruddington FWK museum, they have loads but sadly were not demonstrating any when I was there so I am still not 100% clear except they were like l
  10. Both sides of my family were from Sneinton and raised there in the 1930s - 1940s. They had a Christmas Pork Pie tradition but it wasnt for breakfast. Traditionally a large Pork Farm Pork Pie ( and not any other type of Pork Pie mind) was the centre-piece of a large cold buffet meal for the entire extended family and as there wasnt room for all at the table, some could eat off their laps. By tradition this took place on Boxing Day and as you might imagine the slices of pie were thin but enjoyed by all none the less and always accompanied by pickles, mixed pickles and pickled onions. A few years
  11. Thanks for the replies and esp thanks to Commo - confirmed what I thought,that it was a skipping rhyme. Now a quick update. My sister has discovered there really was a Sally Slick Slack who sold rags ( ie clothes) on Sneinton Market. She found the info in an article about Sneinton Market which I will link to below. Given the proximity to St Anns it wouldnt seem unreasonable to assume Sally came from there. Both my parents were raised in Sneinton and could well have seen Sally in action selling her "rags". I strongly suspect Sally No Nose is the same is the link, scroll w
  12. A few more words on Warships which were withdrawn very quickly at the start of the 1970s. They did work regularly into Crewe in the early 60s coming in over the Marches route ( yes that is via Shrewsbury) have some pics somewhere if I can find them. Diesels inc Warships dropped the D prefix anytime after Aug 1968 but not before - that date was of course the end of BR steam There are three types of Warships Class 41 Class 42 Built by BR Class 43 Bult by North British Kelly was a Swindon built BR Class 42 D827 Kelly , into service 4 October 1960 Withdrawn 1 January 1
  13. Hi all, couple of pointers. The Magpie pub was very near to the top of Meadow Lane, almost next to the level crossing and on the right walking up to the top and before the 3 bridges. I just cannot forget that pub it had an amazing inn "sign", a 3-D rendition of two magpies in a cage looked like it was made of pottery. The Ginger Tom was a modern pub built near the flats up near the Colwick Woods and actually either on the site or just to one side of the railway bridge going over Colwick Road. bridge was demolished mid 60s. I too played in Monkey Park, the big attraction was the huge ( and
  14. Does anyone recall rhymes or indeed the real names or stories behind these two. My sister thinks Sally Slick Slack lived in St Anns and here is a rhyme our mother told us as children.. 'Sally Slick Sack sells fish, 3 aypence a dish, dont buy it, dont buy it, it stinks when you fry it' !! Anyone know any more esp about Sally No Nose ( we think thaty was another rhyme) Love to hear some more about this.....even if they are fictional characters!
  15. Seems to be a lot of confusion here, prob because there was indeed a pleasure park at the end of Trent Lane but there was also Colwick / Colwick Park which was just down from this pleasure park and boats did pull in there as late as the 1960s. I visited the Trent Lane park as a child in the late 50s, there were a few rides,one like a chair-o-p-lane, some arcade machines and there were some railings near the Trent shore to allow safe bathing. Must mention this pleasure park was nowhere near Trent Marina which is a 1970s-19800s creation and was cut out of old meadows beyond Colwick Hall between
  16. Surely Ned Ludd was a mythical figure much like Robin Hood - and like Robin would disappear into said Forest when the Kings men ( soldiers) came calling. Been doing some research on Framework knitters and you wont find any old mills in Arnold that carried out the trade. The frames were small enough to fit inside a small cottage and this was very much a cottage industry. Look for weavers cottages ie those which seem to have longer than normal upstairs windows -these were used by the stockingers or framework knitters to create cotton cloth which was then turned into socks and stockings. You shou
  17. Why ? surely its not being rebuilt brick by brick -or is someone going to recycle the the old bricks and use them again? A lot of my family from Sneinton used this boozer!
  18. Wow what a memmory. I went to one of these when I lived in Meadows to see Guns of Navarone when it first came out in the early 60s -Kirwkwhite street sounds about right. Just cannot recall a cinema near Trent Bridge and I lived very nearby.....
  19. My experiences are similar to you Firbeck.Born in 1953 I lived in the "Medders" - the "posh" end mind, with the big 3 floor terrace houses and my dad was the first ever in his family to get a mortgage. Went to Trent Bridge Junior School then in 1963 we moved to Carlton (Douglas Ave) A very happy year at Parkdale Primary then I passed my 11+ and went off to Carlton Le Willows Grammar. Absolutely hated the 7 years I was there. Then from Sept 71 a four year stint in Manchester at Teacher Training College.Dont know whats happened to the last 40 years and now I am about to stop working. I have bee
  20. One simple word - SHRAPNEL from the Lutwaffe blitz of May 1941.My father and family all lived in Sneinton and were lucky not be hit by a bomb on Cosby Road. The next morning my dad set off with other lads picking up pieces of shrapnel. You should find shrapnel damage all over Sneinton and I do recall Sneinton Boulevard was still showing the scars in 1960. Yes I know it still has scars now! PS is the Loggerheads pub shut now? Fantastic history to that place, I always wanted to return but if its closed it wont happen. My great grandfather, an Irish navvy working on the railways was drinking in
  21. Thanks very much for those views - scenes I have never seen before and I never realized there was a crossing point at Douglas Ave, much less it was called Savilles Crossing! Yes the bridge is still there but much truncated - it only goes over the two old Midland Railway tracks now - it also used to go over three track of the Great Northern Railway too, one of which was a siding into Sands Steel Erectors. Thanks to to Kath for sending an article about William Saville. I am trying to find out if Saville was on his way to visit family in Arnold on that fateful day in 1844 as I believe I have see
  22. Just been doing some research and found that the infamous Savilles Spinney ( scene of 4 murders in 1844) was at the end of Colwick Woods and now built on by houses - not a million miles away from my former home on Douglas Avenue! Been trying to find out some more about the Saville family and what they were doing there. Did find a website that mentioned the family was in the workhouse and were out and about on their way to make a visit that day. Can anyone help with more info - most websites are concerned with the hanging and the further deaths it caused?
  23. Well blow me so both Sneinton and Long Eaton had a Trent Lane and a Meadow Lane. Then again there must be many more Trent Lanes in the Trent Valley...
  24. Ayup Firbeck - where is that Trent Lane Crossing pic with the Class 25 and brake tender? It just cannot be Trent Lane Sneinton as there was no over-bridge for pedestrians there and no empty fields to the right - so where was this other Trent Lane Crossing? PS may family come from Sneinton hence I know it well!
  25. Well I must have been a member of 138 First Nott'm Sqdn ATC too as I recall it was down Trent Lane. And my old man was also in this Squadron in the 1940s and went on to join the RAF in 1944. Sad to say my stay there in around 1968 or 69 was very brief. I seem to recall it was a Thursday night and Sunday morning and I joined at the same time as around another 5 newbies. We were told we would soon get our uniforms but it just didnt happen. About one month in there was a trip to RAF Newton and I had been told what fun this was what with rifle shooting and all. Then came the bad news - only thos